John Morrison 2010 NBA

[stevex]

[chriscat423]

so whats the consensenses...people playing den or skipping...post ur opinion

[stevex]

Play Denver. There's no point in following a system if you're going to pick and choose which games to play. If you do that you won't profit, period.

That's why this labby thing is great for me. Don't have to worry about buying points, who's playing or who's not. Don't have to worry about anything at all. Place the wager, sit back and profit.

[Wallco99]

Hi Ive been lurking on this thread lately and have made some good money thanks to it.. Was just wondering what the stats are on the chase system? I'm considering playing NYK which is a B bet on that system, thanks.

Which system are you referring to? I don't know of the Knicks being a play in any of our systems

[stevex]

Knicks -2 1/2 are an SBP Updated [B] bet.

[Wallco99]

Wallco whats this talk of other systems? I remember you said you were back testing something, now someone says they need you to pM the info on it. Any systems you have just feel free to post on the forum as well as back tested results.

Anyone have link to JW cash hockey bets? I remember him saying he had some kind of system as well. idk if he has his own thread for it or not though.

jphil didn't seem interested in any more profitable systems on here, post # 4609. I believe he wants to stick to "Let's just do JM" and have nothing to discuss four out of seven days a week. So I will respect his wishes and keep my money makers to myself. The one system is really good, I am still backtesting several scenarios to maximize yearly profit. I need some time. The other one I still need to work out some bugs. I am also trying to correlate some of these into baseball. I will PM you when completed.

[jordanfreak]

for a minute there i thought you were jphil looking at your avatar. Nah ! No upcoming bets.

jphil took my avatar he knows it and i know it, you can even ask him. But its all good i guess

[jordanfreak]

knicks -2 1/2 are an sbp updated [b] bet.

hey steve long time no talk buddy! Just curious im beting on denver tonight but wanted to know what else you got a good feeling on tonight???????

[Newbie1825]

Cavs aren't a tps play(worst team in conf.). But they are an sbp play.

On paper that is because cavs look like they will cover today while Wash got rapped

[atari5200]

wallco, so far its only jphil against you posting your new systems and ideas. This is an open forum based on system betting. Anything that has to do with system betting is more than welcome on this thread. If anyone would like to support jphil and say that this thread should only be about JM plays please let us know. This thread is interesting and scaling it back to only JM plays will make it almost useless.

[jas19illini]

Go Detroit it's ur birfday!

[Newbie1825]

ok last Q lets cross our fingers for Det to pull it off all they have to due is tie this last q and we are god

[juice050]

well denver came thru on to the next one fellas! we have off for a while till next week. cheers!!

[Wallco99]

wallco, so far its only jphil against you posting your new systems and ideas. This is an open forum based on system betting. Anything that has to do with system betting is more than welcome on this thread. If anyone would like to support jphil and say that this thread should only be about JM plays please let us know. This thread is interesting and scaling it back to only JM plays will make it almost useless.

Just trying to be a team player. jphil has been on this thread longer than me, don't want to ruffle any feathers. But I would hate to see him lose money if these systems prove to be winners. I will honor his wish.

[Wallco99]

Chase 110 looking good. Many possible plays after break. Will check them out tomorrow.

[fotzan]

I see that everybody is talking about Denver and no one is talking aboyt New Jersey that have lost by 14 points against Boston. The spread in Pinnacle was 10.5 points and withe 3 points buing it became 13.5...Do you think tha JM will tell us again that he found a sportsbook that had 11,5 points spread a sports book like BetOil? may be ?

[Newbie1825]

I see that everybody is talking about Denver and no one is talking aboyt New Jersey that have lost by 14 points against Boston. The spread in Pinnacle was 10.5 points and withe 3 points buing it became 13.5...Do you think tha JM will tell us again that he found a sportsbook that had 11,5 points spread a sports book like BetOil? may be ?

I think he might because I got NJ at 11.5 at betus so my bet covered, but trust me I have been on the other side of this deal too so I know how you feel.

[Kev the Brit]

Good Morrison night: Two C bets (NHL and NBA) won.

[J.M. Disciple]

I think he might because I got NJ at 11.5 at betus so my bet covered, but trust me I have been on the other side of this deal too so I know how you feel.

Ya New Jersey will count as a system win for JM [A] at +14.5 i posted the spread earlier when i did all my picks.

Do B and C at your own risk.

Seemed like TPS and SBP original were my only losses tonight. BOth C bets covered pretty easily. Fantastic night.

Good thing Jennings shot like crap for MIL other wise might of lost the bet.

LAL has now lost 3 straight,,, they should cover chase 110 easily their next 4 games. Make sure you all load up on lakers

[J.M. Disciple]

HEY EVERYONE KEEP YOUR EYE OPEN FOR SOME NHL PICKS TOMORROW. i believe we have 4! yes FOUR! v1 nhl picks tomorrow to bet on.

ATL vs PHX
MONT vs EDM
BOS vs NYI
DET vs TB

all [A] level.

[jphil]

jphil didn't seem interested in any more profitable systems on here, post # 4609. I believe he wants to stick to "Let's just do JM" and have nothing to discuss four out of seven days a week. So I will respect his wishes and keep my money makers to myself. The one system is really good, I am still backtesting several scenarios to maximize yearly profit. I need some time. The other one I still need to work out some bugs. I am also trying to correlate some of these into baseball. I will PM you when completed.

wallco: in the future, get your facts straight pertaining to your assumption in your first 2- 1/2 sentences above.. And just for the record, i don't need this particular thread for daily info on systems like sol.,sbp, wanna make some serious cash, jm nhl, tps, etc.,etc., when i can just go to the proper thread and get the exact info that i need and not have to ever 2nd guess it. ever! it's alot easier & sensible for me to follow those threads separately. Please, don't let ME restrain ya from posting whatever & wherever ya want. It's not like this was the 1st time that this subject was ever mentioned, by the way.


atari: spare me will ya already! "so far it's only jphil against you"? Are ya expecting a revolution or something?

"If anyone would like to support jphil and say that this thread should only be about JM plays please let us know."? you've already been politely notified a few times by others. why would anyone want to risk the hassle again? they're too smart for that. they know when to quit, as i now do myself. And again just for the record, this thread was started & dedicated to jm nba specifically. period. I'll leave it to you & the others to explain to newbies the current objective of this thread & hopefully refer them to the proper system posts w/ explanations, instead of sneering at them.



jordan freak: "jphil took my avatar he knows it and i know it, you can even ask him."

I jphil, hereby swear that i did indeed take over & occupy his chair during his excessive absence. Now that he's reappeared again, i still can't bring myself to vacate this comfy chair. therefore, i won't. now there will be more chair avitars appearing daily, as myself & JF try to outpost one another. i am sorry for the inconvienence.

[bauerranch]

I don't think some of you guys every sleep

Wallco I jumped on board Chase101 last night for my first win- thanks

[Wallco99]

wallco: in the future, get your facts straight pertaining to your assumption in your first 2- 1/2 sentences above.. And just for the record, i don't need this particular thread for daily info on systems like sol.,sbp, wanna make some serious cash, jm nhl, tps, etc.,etc., when i can just go to the proper thread and get the exact info that i need and not have to ever 2nd guess it. ever! it's alot easier & sensible for me to follow those threads separately. Please, don't let ME restrain ya from posting whatever & wherever ya want. It's not like this was the 1st time that this subject was ever mentioned, by the way.


atari: spare me will ya already! "so far it's only jphil against you"? Are ya expecting a revolution or something?

"If anyone would like to support jphil and say that this thread should only be about JM plays please let us know."? you've already been politely notified a few times by others. why would anyone want to risk the hassle again? they're too smart for that. they know when to quit, as i now do myself. And again just for the record, this thread was started & dedicated to jm nba specifically. period. I'll leave it to you & the others to explain to newbies the current objective of this thread & hopefully refer them to the proper system posts w/ explanations, instead of sneering at them.



jordan freak: "jphil took my avatar he knows it and i know it, you can even ask him."

I jphil, hereby swear that i did indeed take over & occupy his chair during his excessive absence. Now that he's reappeared again, i still can't bring myself to vacate this comfy chair. therefore, i won't. now there will be more chair avitars appearing daily, as myself & JF try to outpost one another. i am sorry for the inconvienence.

I meant no offense by that post, actually the opposite. Referring to those previous posts you mention, is one of the reasons I wasn't going to put it on here. I didn't mean to single you out, sorry if I did, you were just the most recent person to post it, and your name I remembered. All good.

[Wallco99]

I see that everybody is talking about Denver and no one is talking aboyt New Jersey that have lost by 14 points against Boston. The spread in Pinnacle was 10.5 points and withe 3 points buing it became 13.5...Do you think tha JM will tell us again that he found a sportsbook that had 11,5 points spread a sports book like BetOil? may be ?

I had 14.5, so yes he will.

[atari5200]

jphil, take it easy, i'm with wallco, i never meant any offense by it. enjoy your multiple threads and avatar and don't take anything personal. i want you, me and everyone else here laughing with profits... all the best buddy...

[Wallco99]

Chase 110
2010-11 System to date: 56-0
System Rules can be found in post #4475

(2/16/11) Detroit +1½ (A) – Win

(A) 31-25
(B) 15-10
(C) 7-3
(D) 3-0

There are no plays for 2/17/11 – 2/21/11

Next games:
(2/22/11) Minnesota @ Milwaukee (A)
(2/22/11) Atlanta @ L.A. Lakers (A)

[krzychu78]

JM's NBA system:
02/16/2011 New Jersey @ Boston - V2, A bet - LOSS
02/16/2011 Denver @ Milwaukee - V3, C bet - WIN

V1record so far (finished series): 39-3
(A): 20-22
(B): 15-7
(C): 4-3
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
UTA 01/17-21

V2 record so far (finished series): 18-1
(A): 13-6
(B): 2-4
(C): 3-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03

V3 record so far (finished series): 43-2
(A): 23-21-1 (W-L-P)
(B): 17-4-1 (W-L-P)
(C): 3-1-1 (W-L-P)
Lost series:
CLE 12/04-07
TOR 01/29-02/02 (B bet and C bet were pushes according to covers.com)

Next JM's plays:
02/22/2011 Boston @ Golden State - V1, A bet
02/23/2011 Utah @ Dallas - V2, A bet
02/25/2011 Phoenix @ Toronto - V1, A bet
02/25/2011 New Jersey @ San Antonio - V2, B bet
02/25/2011 New York @ Cleveland - V3, A bet
02/26/2011 Dallas @ Washington - V1, A bet
02/26/2011 Chicago @ Milwaukee - V3, A bet
02/27/2011 Charlotte @ Orlando - V2, A bet
02/27/2011 Golden State @ Minnesota - V2, A bet
02/27/2011 Houston @ New Orleans - V3, A bet

[SharkMerc]

So no NBA system plays tonight right guys? Tough loss with Jersey last night, I thought we had it until they messed around in the 4th =(.. Well still a good night so cant complain.

[J.M. Disciple]

So no NBA system plays tonight right guys? Tough loss with Jersey last night, I thought we had it until they messed around in the 4th =(.. Well still a good night so cant complain.

A lot of us had +14.5 so system will count it as a win.

[J.M. Disciple]

V1 Atlanta Thrashers (A) ML +150 (1 to win 1.5)
V1 Atlanta Thrashers (A) PL -200 (2 to win 1)

V1 Boston Bruins (A) ML -140 (1.4 to win 1)
V1 Boston Bruins (A) PL (fav, play ML) (1.4 to win 1)

V1 Detroit Red Wings (A) ML -102 (1.02 to win 1)
V1 Detroit Red Wings (A) PL -270 (2.7 to win 1)

V1 Montreal Canadiens (A) ML -120 (1.2 to win 1)
V1 Montreal Canadiens (A) PL (fav, play ML) (1.2 to win 1)

thats the way EL Captain list them. The official JM NHL is if the team is fav play ML if there under dog only bet PL. El captain does both ways.

Good Luck everyone on JM NHL V1 hockey tonight

[Kev the Brit]

Wallco:

jphil didn't seem interested in any more profitable systems on here, post # 4609. I believe he wants to stick to "Let's just do JM" and have nothing to discuss four out of seven days a week. So I will respect his wishes and keep my money makers to myself. The one system is really good, I am still backtesting several scenarios to maximize yearly profit. I need some time. The other one I still need to work out some bugs. I am also trying to correlate some of these into baseball. I will PM you when completed.

I can't remember what jphil said, but I'm the guy who keeps asking us to focus on Morrison NBA. However, if the majority of folk here want to discuss other stuff, well, go ahead. Its not my thread. But, the issue here is that it is simply laziness to expect all the info to be posted on this thread. I'll tell you what, lets ask sbr to shut down all the other threads, cos they're obviously not needed. Everything we need to know is here, after all. Furthermore, guys, there might be someone out there who could contribute to, say, the TPS system, but he can't find any discussion on the system because its hidden behind a Morrison NBA placard. I would gladly start a TPS thread, but my screen name is too close to the name that JJ sends his e-mails to and I really don't want to piss the guy off. I would certainly provide advice, etc. Similarly, the Chase 110 system is really good and certainly deserves its own thread. I would have it as a fav webpage and I wouldn't have to trawl through irrelevant posts about sbp, TPS, JM NBA JM NHL, to find the daily post that wallco has put out . Wallco, my friend, its a great system, so please open up a new thread. You will not be leaving us, your followers, behind. We will all check in daily and take it forward. And, as it will be your thread, you can open up discussions on your other possible systems.

And whoever asked what would we do between JM plays, the answer is that we all individually click on wallco's thread and go there to discuss his picks, and/or we go to the TPS thread or the sbp thread or the Solaman thread or SJ55's thread, whatever. Guys, we are not joined at the hip. We can live without each other, you know, and get the info from the proper sources.

But, most importantly; lets not fall out over this.

Regards to all

Kev the Brit
(been reading and contributing here since page 1 post 1)

[honeyeater]

I have used the system for the past 3 years- I don't use it blindly but try to figure statistically where to come in. For example I did not play NJN vs Bos because even with the spread Bos is just to strong at home. I have created such filters for the A bet and mostly come in on Bs and sometimes Cs. In NHL V1 I only do B and C. Also I NEVER buy points. So far the series in which you had to buy points or lose (they are few but there) I've stayed out of all together. I think you can maximize the system by creating a chart and looking for yourself at what works. Such as I also had the Clippers down for a C bet yesterday. Because I split their road trip into two halves- the beginning and end. Not playing the middle game. Be as creative as you want

[stevex]

Kev, something like that bothers you THAT much.....?

Wow.

[Rolo1984]

Ok guys. i am new in nba betting. i have some issues regarding the chase system

1) i pressume that you use a fixed unitsize for bets A, B, C and D. Or do you use the doubling your stake (which has 0 EV)

2) now you are tracking wins/losses and you are 55-0 or something. However, imo this is totally irrelevant because you can be 55-0 and still have lost money. Why?
Simple, since you bet the spread if a team is an underdog and bet on ML when it is a favorite. let's pressume you lost bets A/B and bet c your team is favorite with ML@1.4 or so. This means you only gain a little bit no matter what unitsize you use. Theoretically you can lose a lot in the long term when there are relative small ML in play. The chance of a streak being broken because a team is playing an awfull team is pretty high. So how does the chase system cope with this issue? For me this is a major flaw so instead of using won/loss bets i would also look at profit in units. Additionally, sample size is small and thus, it is difficult to tell if the system is profitable at all.

The fact that all systems results seem to be based on win/losses it is not really usefull untill you put units along with it and see what the profit/loss is. You can always create a system which ends up in xx-0 win/loss does not mean it is profitable. So it is not about the amount of bets being won it should always be about the amount of units won.

I hope someone can shed some light on these issues

[Wallco99]

Ok guys. i am new in nba betting. i have some issues regarding the chase system

1) i pressume that you use a fixed unitsize for bets A, B, C and D. Or do you use the doubling your stake (which has 0 EV)

2) now you are tracking wins/losses and you are 55-0 or something. However, imo this is totally irrelevant because you can be 55-0 and still have lost money. Why?
Simple, since you bet the spread if a team is an underdog and bet on ML when it is a favorite. let's pressume you lost bets A/B and bet c your team is favorite with ML@1.4 or so. This means you only gain a little bit no matter what unitsize you use. Theoretically you can lose a lot in the long term when there are relative small ML in play. The chance of a streak being broken because a team is playing an awfull team is pretty high. So how does the chase system cope with this issue? For me this is a major flaw so instead of using won/loss bets i would also look at profit in units. Additionally, sample size is small and thus, it is difficult to tell if the system is profitable at all.

The fact that all systems results seem to be based on win/losses it is not really usefull untill you put units along with it and see what the profit/loss is. You can always create a system which ends up in xx-0 win/loss does not mean it is profitable. So it is not about the amount of bets being won it should always be about the amount of units won.

I hope someone can shed some light on these issues

Chase 110 is definitely profitable. For each series loss in a four game chase @ (-110), you need 18.44 series wins to be even. We currently have 56 series wins. This means we can have three losses, and be at the even point right now (assuming all series losses are at (-110) and adding the extra for M/L losses). In a chase system, assuming your initial wager is 1 unit, if you lose your (A) bet, your (B) bet will be your losses of (A) bet + 1 unit. So if (B) wins, your profit will be 1 unit. Same for (C) and (D). Recoup all previous losses + 1 unit. Any time a series wins, you will have profited 1 unit. So my system is 56-0, I am currently up 56 units, it can't be more than that, because our game odds are always (-110) or lower. If you lose four consecutive bets: (A) (B) (C) and (D), you cumulative loss will be 18.44 units (assuming all four games were played at (-110), slightly more if there was a M/L in one of the games). I am not sure where your confusion comes in, unless you are not adding an extra unit to each of your next bets. Another thing, if (A) (B) (C) or (D) wins, the series is over at that point, and system gets a win, the remaining games in the series do not get played. Here are four examples, winning the (A) bet is obvious, so I will skip that one:

Unit size = $100

Win (B) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Win (+210)
Net result: 210 -110 = +100 (+1 unit)

Win (C) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Win (+441)
Net result: 441 - 231 - 110 = +100 (+1 unit)

Win (D) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Loss (-485)
(D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 - Win (+926)
Net result: 926 - 485 - 231 - 110 = +100 (+1 unit)

Lose (D) bet (series loss)
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Loss (-485)
(D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 - Loss (-1018)
Net result: -1018 - 485 - 231 - 110 = -1844 (-18.44 units)