James/Wade Will Most Likely Be On Same Team Next Year

[iam416]

Wow. Fantasyland.

1. The Cavs can pay LBJ more money than any other team in the NBA. Period. The daft suggestion that the Knicks could somehow pay him more means the Knicks would be breaking league rules. Get real.

2. LBJ is a mega-stand-alone entity at this point in time. He could play in Omaha and he'd still be the 2nd biggest sports star in the US and closing rapidly on Tiger.

3. The only thing LBJ is missing is rings. That's the final key to his legacy. He has a massively better chance of winning a title in Cleveland from 2011 to 2013 than he does in New York or anywhere else that could sign him. NY, at best, would be two superstars and total garbage. Cleveland can re-sign Shaq and basically bring back the entire team. Whether he wins or not this year, that team next year has a much, much, much better chance of winning a title than anywhere else he signs.

With that in mind, he's signing a 3-4 year deal with Cleveland -- probably player option in the 4th. He'll have the flexibility to re-evaluate the Cavs in 3 years and look for better options. The only thing that might alter that is the CBA which could lower the wage scale. He may want to sign for longer in that case.

But he ain't going to New York. Good lord.

[shawnkang]

if lakers dont win it this year, they'll go after bosh. Sign and trade deal Bynum for bosh.

[Goat Milk]

It doesn't matter how much talent you have, too many things can get in the way to guarantee six titles in a row.

Wade and Lebron aren't just raw talent; they're champions; they're dedicated; and they're getting to the point in their career where rings are all that matters. You cannot compare putting a duo like this to any team in history. 2 of the 3 greatest players in the world on 1 team, both MVP candidates every year, both have carried the shittiest teams in the world to the playoffs single handedly at some point in their careers, it takes 2-3 guys to contain each of them. They're not selfish players in the slightest bit; the 2 best playmakers in the league; 2 of the clutchest shooters in the league (even if a team stays close, they're finished); and the 2 most explosive players in the league.

If Wade and Bron played every game of the season together, they wouldn't win less than 70 games every season.

Not only would Wade and Lebron win 6 straight rings if they played together (which will never happen), they would TOY with 90 percent of teams. Teams would make adjustments and try to bring in more players to create "big 3s" and "big 4s" but it wouldn't matter.

[PAULYPOKER]

Goat knows his shit boys about the ins and outs of the NBA listen to him

[yisman]

Wade and Lebron aren't just raw talent; they're champions; they're dedicated; and they're getting to the point in their career where rings are all that matters. You cannot compare putting a duo like this to any team in history. 2 of the 3 greatest players in the world on 1 team, both MVP candidates every year, both have carried the shittiest teams in the world to the playoffs single handedly at some point in their careers, it takes 2-3 guys to contain each of them. They're not selfish players in the slightest bit; the 2 best playmakers in the league; 2 of the clutchest shooters in the league (even if a team stays close, they're finished); and the 2 most explosive players in the league.

Everything that happens has happened before.

You think this hasn't happened before; that two of the league's superstar players were on the same team?

After you win several titles, players tend to lose their hunger for winning, and they start bickering, not being team players, tuning out the coach, etc. That is reality.

And even aside from all of that, neither of them would get injured in six years? They'd stay healthy and motivated every day so they could win 70+ and a title every year? Highly unlikely.

Six straight (or eight straight, as jj claimed) titles is not happening in the modern era.

[BobbyBaseballs]

Lebron has been a Knick for 2 years now.......Wade will NEVER play on the same team....JJ just likes making himself look like an idiot cuz he's an attention-hound.....The dumber he sounds, the more ppl jerk off his threads.

[Goat Milk]

Everything that happens has happened before.

You think this hasn't happened before; that two of the league's superstar players were on the same team?

After you win several titles, players tend to lose their hunger for winning, and they started bickering, not being team players, tuning out the coach, etc. That is reality.

And even aside from all of that, neither of them would get injured in six years? They'd stay healthy and motivated every day so they could win 70+ and a title every year? No.

Six straight (or eight straight, as jj claimed) titles is not happening in the modern era.

I feel you about the six straight and that not happening in the modern era- it is virtually impossible.

That bold statement-- na yisman, these guys aren't just superstars, they're Legends man, they're going down as 2 of the top 10-15 greatest players in NBA history. And they'll also go down as 2 of the top 5 most explosive players in NBA history. I haven't seen guys this explosive since Dominique. And they're winner. They're winners like Kobe and Jordan. And they're versatile.

Yasmin, cmon bro, Wade and Lebron aren't your typical superstars like a Brandon Roy or a Derron Williams. There's never been any 2 players like this on one team in NBA history- never- and there probably never will be. If you can name me a time when 2 of the 3 greatest players in the world/the league were on one team at the same time then I'll step down. \

The only duo you might be able to say is Shaq/Kobe (3 straight titles when that happened), and that is a very, very far stretch to put that Duo on a Lebron/Wade level or even say those were 2 of the 3 greatest players in the world at the time.

[yisman]

In the NBA, that would be the last time it happened, and Shaq and Kobe could've won more titles. Why didn't they? The usual reason superstars don't stick together in the NBA.

Shaq was the best and most dominant inside force in the game and Kobe was the best shooting guard. Were they the two best? Hard to say for sure, but that is just one of many examples of why even the most talented teams don't win six straight in the modern era.

Shaq and Kobe will go down as two of the very best players the NBA has ever seen.

[23king]

Wade and Rose on Chi

[Goat Milk]

In the NBA, that would be the last time it happened, and Shaq and Kobe could've won more titles. Why didn't they? The usual reason superstars don't stick together in the NBA.

Shaq and Kobe will go down as two of the very best players the NBA has ever seen.

Of course, when Kobe retires, he will arguably be the best player to ever play the game (it can be argued). Shaq will go down as the most dominant player ever.

But Kobe has just a clashing personality- hes like Jordan, he'll yell at his teammates and Kobe is just a regular teammate, Shaq needs the attention; Wade is quiet and is a leader, encourages his guys, and Lebron is more vocal; but remember these guys have been great friends for a long time, they came out in the same draft class and they played together in the olympics last summer. I don't think they would ever have a problem playing together so long as they're winning rings.

When Kobe and Shaq split up, they were both really immature, kobe was more immature and didn't realize how hard it would be to win another when shaq left. If he had a choice, Kobe would do it all over again and keep shaq on the team now that he knows how hard it is. Lebron used to be cocky like that too, but he's not anymore. So i think it would work.

[CashMoney]

Wade and Bron one the Knicks, I'd love it, but it ain't gonna happen

Great I have to settle for Joe Johnson and wait for the Melo Man in 2011!

[investor]

Nobody talking about the Durantula?

I'd take him way before Wade.... Especially with how young he is and how pure his talent is. Youngest to win the scoring title.... I followed him when i went to college at the univ. of texas. I knew he'd be a star in the league and i laughed when Portland drafted G. Oden over Durant. I guess he has the last laugh now... If you guys are now finally watching him for the first time against the lakers.... He's been playing like that his whole career!! It's just hard when you're in a city with no marketing at all!

[Goat Milk]

Nobody talking about the Durantula?

I'd take him way before Wade....

[investor]

In the NBA, that would be the last time it happened, and Shaq and Kobe could've won more titles. Why didn't they? The usual reason superstars don't stick together in the NBA.

Shaq was the best and most dominant inside force in the game and Kobe was the best shooting guard. Were they the two best? Hard to say for sure, but that is just one of many examples of why even the most talented teams don't win six straight in the modern era.

Shaq and Kobe will go down as two of the very best players the NBA has ever seen.

Well said! I still don't know what other Duo could beat Shaq & Kobe on a 2 vs. 2. It was so hard seeing them split... All the games they dominated together. But now it hurts even more when they BOTH talk about how if they could go back in time and stay together... that they would.

LA all DAY!

[phillybadboy]

who ever wrote this u r not too bright

[investor]

I don't know what's so funny goat....

Wade plays in the Jr. Varsity League... Durant has his team tied up with the defending national champs with virtually no all-stars... All pure young talent. If wade is so great... .why are they struggling so tough?

I guess your one of those that prob. have only seen durant play a few games.

[Goat Milk]

I don't know what's so funny goat....

Wade plays in the Jr. Varsity League... Durant has his team tied up with the defending national champs with virtually no all-stars... All pure young talent. If wade is so great... .why are they struggling so tough?

I guess your one of those that prob. have only seen durant play a few games.

NBA is my life, I buy the league package every year and have been watching carefully for 25 years. Durant is a top 5 player in the world. But putting him on Wade's level is amateurish a little bit no offense. A lot of ppl try to come on this forum and say Durant is better than Wade Kobe and Lebron and those guys are on a whole different level than anyone else in the league right now.

By the way, remember when Miami was trailing 2-0 in the NBA Finals and he carried that team on his back to win 4 straight? He had the greatest finals performance in NBA history....and ever since then, he's been stuck with shit teams, the Heat team is terrible this year and last year and he somehow manages to take them to the playoffs. Did you watch Wade's last game against Boston? Again, that was one of the best playoff performances in heat history.

Don't try to put Durant on Wade's level right now. He'll be there in a few years, when he learns to play defense. Wade is one of the best defenders in the world, the most explosive, and he's proven himself time and time again with clutch/game winning shots.

[investor]

ok, i agree to a certain extent. But my point in taking durant wasn't just for a single year. It would be for building my team for the future. If you've been watching league pass like most others do, then you'd see the improvement that Durant has brought to the table. Year in and Year out.

Again, Wade had an all-star in shaq. W/o him wade wasn't winning that title. Who does durant have? a young guard in westbrook?

I've seen Durant with mediocre players and look what he's accomplished. If Durant had another all-star, sheit who knows where this convo would be going.

Honestly to me this is an apple/oranges debate. I could understand if this was just one season RIGHT NOW. But if we are talking about building a team, then i'm taking Durant before wade. But if this was just one season, Yah, i could prob. go with Wade.

I never said Wade wasn't a baller... But again, look at his team now. Shit players, shitty conference and look... barely ever looks like he wants to come out and play.

Let me remind you... Have you seen what Durant has done against the lakers? His first playoffs and look what he's doing. He shut down kobe in the 4th quarter in game 3. What did he have? 2 or 3 blocked shots on kobe in the 4th? I LOVE KOBE being from LA and it was just sad to see Durant have his way with Kobe. He has his team tied up with the Lakers.

Let me just ask you this one question....

If the Heat/Thunder play, who are you taking?

[eidolon]

pointless for them to be teammates. james needs people who can drain the 3, or rebound.

[Goat Milk]

He didn't shut down Kobe, Kobe is lazy and just takes jumpers, if Kobe wanted to drive to the rim (like he'll be doing tomorrow when games actually matter), he will abuse Durant; Durant is a shitty defensive player and won't be first team defense for another 3-4 years at least. Kobe is first offense and defense ever single year your honestly going to compare Durant to Kobe?

Wade was the finals MVP last time I checked, not Shaq. Wade carried that team on his back, not Shaq. Westbrook is a top 6 pg in this league, he should have been an all star this year. The Thunder are a much better team than the heat. The Thunder would win.

Wade will go down as one of the top 15 players in NBA history when he retires, you know that right? I guarantee Wade wins at least 3 rings before he retires. Durant will struggle to win 1-2; You can't be classified in the top 3 if your not a lock down defender. Durant is 4th probably or 5th on the list- but 4th and 5th best players in the world are far, far, far, far away from that top 3

[investor]

LoL i would never put Durant above kobe. well, def. not now and also depends on how many more years kobe plays.

Shaq may not have had a presence in scoring, but him being on the floor always does wonders. Espec. back then. Also, Shaq owned the mav's at the time. His Height is what made a lot of the mav's struggle on offense.

At least you're man enough to admit that the Thunder would win.

LoL, you're really going to predict how many rings Durant is going to win? Espec. when his contract is coming up and we have no clue where he signs?

LoL, ok now this convo is getting pointless. Espec. when we are just speculating.

Enjoy the games.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Lebron will take a slight pay cut to start winning some rings. I mean the guy makes enough off endorsements anyways.

[konck]

One will be showing at the garden

[phillybadboy]

all this yic yac, just pick winners man, then talk

[SportsTerminator]

Hmm... Lebron stays with the Cavs and Wade goes... to the Nets...

[aznjeff07]

wonder if there will be lines for this

[zogdog]

The only way this happens is if Wade demands to go to Cleveland and Riley decides to sign and trade him, which wouldn't really make any sense for the Heat, considering they could fill their salary cap space with free agents other than Wade rather than whatever Cleveland would offer.

Or if Wade signed for the MLE, but he won't.

[jsmithj88]

If Lebron became a possibility I bet you that their wallets might 'somehow' become A LOT deeper. You realize how much money he would make them. The guy literally pays for himself with all the money that he brings to whoever he's playing for (ticket sales --> concessions, merchandise, advertising revenue, etc).

dude wat are u talking about? the only team that can offer lebron the most money are the CAVSSSSSSS
if he signs with the knicks/nets/miami or whereever for the max it will be for less money and less years than the CAVSSSSS
only the cavs can give lebron the most money and the most years, PERIOD.

[lakerboy]

Is next year an olympic year?

[krk1030]

They both still have egos so it will never happen.

[jsmithj88]

I don't know what's so funny goat.... Wade plays in the Jr. Varsity League... Durant has his team tied up with the defending national champs with virtually no all-stars... All pure young talent. If wade is so great... .why are they struggling so tough? I guess your one of those that prob. have only seen durant play a few games.

durant is the reason the thunder are tied?
its more like russell westbrook and the defense is the bigger reason why.
westbrook not durant, has been the best player for the thunder this whole playoff series so far.

isnt it early to call durant a superstar? does any1 even remember his last 2 seasons?
u gotta dominate on offense and defense, take over a game, will your team to win
he definately has all the tools to be a superstar, i think hes gonna have to do it again next year

if u watched wade in the 4th quarter of the miami/celtics game, that is a real superstar
he took over that game and carried his team to victory
or when lebron took over against the pistons a couple years back
he scored almost all the points in the 4th and OT

[yisman]

Wade is not going anywhere. Riley is a contender. Bosh or Amare come to Miami next year. If Wade and Lebron teamed up, I wouldn't even know what to make of it.

Kobe would probably just retire at that point because unless LA gets KD or another superstar caliber player like Joe Johnson, Bron and Wade will win 6 consecutive titles and make history.

As far as I can tell, Kobe hasn't retired yet.

[Bcatswin]

Nice call jj

[jjgold]

[LordVodka]

This is a great post. Look at all the pricks who were so sure of themselves. Hahahaha! "Lebron is going nowhere" or "This will never happen."