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  • budwiser
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    #141
    Originally posted by IBetYou
    This Willie Green is a slow learner. It's obvious Alvarado is better than Graham yet coach still dithering on his backup pg.
    Coaching obviously such a huge part of the game...

    Pelicans got Atlanta disease today. Can't shoot. Legs aren't under them from 2 do-or-die games in a row. Looks like the Pelicans can hang with the Suns but they are going to have to shoot a lot better obviously. maybe they get a 2nd wind and cover
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    • budwiser
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      #142
      22% Pel shooting at the half wow
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      • hehfest
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        #143
        Originally posted by budwiser
        after the celts win i'll take the nets for game 2 ml, small

        celts are great, wonderful...unbeatable. beating their chests. fans going nuts, everyone saying they're too strong. look at them strut their stuff!! kyrie sux!!!

        perfect time to go the other way

        it's just not happening for the nets today. the team is way too sloppy.

        I commented about this maybe in your thread but maybe somewhere else leading up to this game a few days back. People just don't understand the impact of The Time Lord. As we saw today, they snuck this one out in the last second. The defense was good in spurts, but the Nets put up a lot of points. Plus, Boston was at home. They will be lucky if they get passed the Nets w/o Time Lord because he's not coming back as soon as they try to say he will.

        They probably win by 7-8 today if he's healthy and playing normal minutes. Then again, the Nets could add some injured guys in too that would make a difference.
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        • budwiser
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          #144
          Originally posted by hehfest
          I commented about this maybe in your thread but maybe somewhere else leading up to this game a few days back. People just don't understand the impact of The Time Lord. As we saw today, they snuck this one out in the last second. The defense was good in spurts, but the Nets put up a lot of points. Plus, Boston was at home. They will be lucky if they get passed the Nets w/o Time Lord because he's not coming back as soon as they try to say he will.

          They probably win by 7-8 today if he's healthy and playing normal minutes. Then again, the Nets could add some injured guys in too that would make a difference.
          yeah agree. He would have made a huge difference and I think the Celts win easily with Durant having a poor showing. The Nets need to win on Wednesday, or my guess is Ben Simmons won't be in a hurry to come back any time soon or with effort.

          The problem imo is Bruce Brown. The guy is doing absolutely nothing. You look at the box score and every guy on the Nets showed up except for him. The guy who said they'd have an easy time down low without Williams-the Nets were getting killed down low, in large part because this immature idiot opened his big mouth. Nets have a Terrell Owens, Kaepernick, Antonio-Brown type, but what's comical is all those guys had significant talent and Bruce Brown has next to 0 by NBA standards. He's living in his own dream world.

          Well, it comes down to Wednesday and my guess is the Nets are done but, I've said that before. Last year I said the Bux were done too.
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          • budwiser
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            #145
            Not to keep talking about the same point over and over again but...

            How do you keep a guy in for 37 minutes who gets 5 points 1 rebound 5 fouls 2 assists and 2 turnovers 2 steals

            The absolute definition of a useless player out there. If he was Ben Wallace or JaVale McGee at least doing something out there ok. The guy is the DEFINITION of why Nets players have to keep making impossible shots on double teams. The Celts have absolutely no interest in guarding this guy anywhere on the court-it's 4 on 5.

            I don't know what world Steve Nash is living in, or his coaching staff.
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            • budwiser
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              #146
              pregame

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              • budwiser
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                #147
                Video of the final play cements my comment. Watch this. The celtics are paying absolutely no attention to Bruce Brown, and Brown is nowhere. not setting a pick, instead he gets out of the way. he just gets behind kyrie as he's driving to the basket, kyrie has to lob a desperate pass to durant because bruce brown is nowhere in his sight. the celtics never once cared about the guy all game.

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                • budwiser
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                  #148
                  final play notice bruce brown goes running out to double team smart on a 3-the guy shoots 32.1% from 3 and the celtics are down ONE

                  he splits the double team and they get a layup

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                  • budwiser
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                    #149
                    I think the nets have the talent but as with all teams, if you don't have the coaching you can't win

                    Every game nobody knows what Nash is going to do. This is the sign of a coach who is experimenting/learning on the job, and not sure of himself

                    As said without Williams they need to win these games. There's no excuses for losing today.
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                    • budwiser
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                      #150
                      i don't see any post game quotes from bruce brown

                      Maybe he wised up, maybe nash figures out he needs to play him less, or if neither one is true the nets have 0 chance to win the title, let alone beat the celtics

                      is what it is.

                      thanks for the chat fellas and gl
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                      • Git Lo
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                        • 02-20-11
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                        #151
                        you got to think if joe harris didnt get injured hes probably starting the 3 over brown who usually came off the bench. nets arent done but i dont think they are winning this really just comes down to defense (cs) or lack thereof (nets)
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                        • budwiser
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                          #152
                          Originally posted by Git Lo
                          you got to think if joe harris didnt get injured hes probably starting the 3 over brown who usually came off the bench. nets arent done but i dont think they are winning this really just comes down to defense (cs) or lack thereof (nets)
                          yeah.

                          "We can attack Theis and Horford in the paint" said bruce brown

                          Stats are the Nets had their 4th lowest paint total all year today

                          i remember joe gibbs would MAKE STUFF UP to keep his team motivated.

                          i knew it was trouble .2 seconds after he said it, so did kd, so did everyone other than bruce brown

                          anyways, it is what it is. luck and stupidity are part of the game. you cap bruce brown like you cap everyone. gl
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                          • budwiser
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                            #153
                            what do you see here

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                            • hehfest
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by budwiser
                              yeah agree. He would have made a huge difference and I think the Celts win easily with Durant having a poor showing. The Nets need to win on Wednesday, or my guess is Ben Simmons won't be in a hurry to come back any time soon or with effort.

                              The problem imo is Bruce Brown. The guy is doing absolutely nothing. You look at the box score and every guy on the Nets showed up except for him. The guy who said they'd have an easy time down low without Williams-the Nets were getting killed down low, in large part because this immature idiot opened his big mouth. Nets have a Terrell Owens, Kaepernick, Antonio-Brown type, but what's comical is all those guys had significant talent and Bruce Brown has next to 0 by NBA standards. He's living in his own dream world.

                              Well, it comes down to Wednesday and my guess is the Nets are done but, I've said that before. Last year I said the Bux were done too.

                              I like Pritchard this year, but he only got 8 min. tonite. Not sure what he was getting leading up to the playoffs. I'm not sure how well Brown did on defense in shutting anyone down? Other than that.....

                              This series is far from over. Wouldn't be surprised to see it go 7. The Celtics should've never blew this lead today, but then Durant won't shoot like this all series either. So, it will all even out and should be a great series.
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                              • budwiser
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by hehfest
                                I like Pritchard this year, but he only got 8 min. tonite. Not sure what he was getting leading up to the playoffs. I'm not sure how well Brown did on defense in shutting anyone down? Other than that.....

                                This series is far from over. Wouldn't be surprised to see it go 7. The Celtics should've never blew this lead today, but then Durant won't shoot like this all series either. So, it will all even out and should be a great series.
                                Agree was wondering why Pritchard was riding the bench

                                Yeah I counted the Nets out before, when they lost to Charlotte, then they lost to Atlanta, and barely squeezed by a reeling Cavaliers team to get the 7th seed.

                                What I'm concerned about is Kyrie and Durant playing 4 on 5, because the Celtics are not playing Brown at all. So I'm not sure Durant does better in game 2, as 2 guys come flying at him all the time because we all know Brown is not a threat on offense. This was clear in the last play the Nets had, absolutely nobody guarded Brown, not even a thought. They guarded everyone else. Why nash and team can't see this is mind boggling to me, but I've said that 50 times already. At least put Curry and Dragic out there, who can shoot. At least put Blake out there, who can screen rebound dunk. Aldridge, who can shoot. Brown, what is he doing, even Edwards tries screens and gets physical. And they let the guy get 5 fouls, because they play him too much-he's a star, the coaching team thinks he's a star, everyone in the Nets circle thinks he's a star, for reasons in the stars. No punishment for that stupid, idiotic comment that got the Celtics riled up like they are disrespected underdogs as the 2 seed. And he's the reason they are small-playing a 6'4" guy at the power forward spot, 1 rebound in 37 minutes??

                                anyways, it is what it is. I had a long way to go anyways, and it's not over.
                                Last edited by budwiser; 04-18-22, 08:11 AM.
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                                • sk0002
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                                  #156
                                  I think this series is over if they shut down Kyrie, to me Kyrie is the xfactor for the nets to win, you see how he single handedly almost won nets the game while down 15, dude is a killer and one of the most clutch player of all time and most skilled as well. But nets just have too much liabilities for those 2 superstars to overcome Celtics, I would not be surprised if this turns out to be a sweep to be honest. They are very small, got 3 midgets playing major minutes, so that’s major liabilities on defensive end, and offensively they got Clark’s on who cant hit free throw and then brown who’s as bad as it gets offensively and undersized defender, just so many areas Celtics could attack when the series move on.


                                  It’s a team game, just having big name in Kyrie and kd is not enough to overcome a better all around team in Celtics.
                                  Last edited by sk0002; 04-18-22, 09:48 AM.
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                                  • IBetYou
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                                    #157
                                    What a performance by Paul. For anyone that thinks Booker is by far and away the Suns MVP consider this; Pels had their top defender on Paul from the tip. They were happy to have McCollum or Ingram defending Booker. Paul still stole the show. 36yo
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                                    • budwiser
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                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by sk0002
                                      I think this series is over if they shut down Kyrie, to me Kyrie is the xfactor for the nets to win, you see how he single handedly almost won nets the game while down 15, dude is a killer and one of the most clutch player of all time and most skilled as well. But nets just have too much liabilities for those 2 superstars to overcome Celtics, I would not be surprised if this turns out to be a sweep to be honest. They are very small, got 3 midgets playing major minutes, so that’s major liabilities on defensive end, and offensively they got Clark’s on who cant hit free throw and then brown who’s as bad as it gets offensively and undersized defender, just so many areas Celtics could attack when the series move on.


                                      It’s a team game, just having big name in Kyrie and kd is not enough to overcome a better all around team in Celtics.
                                      yeah agree it's just not happening. hey i can wish it, but if they play 3 smalls there's nothing i can do about it. not over yet, but i'm pessimistic about it now.
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                                      • budwiser
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by IBetYou
                                        What a performance by Paul. For anyone that thinks Booker is by far and away the Suns MVP consider this; Pels had their top defender on Paul from the tip. They were happy to have McCollum or Ingram defending Booker. Paul still stole the show. 36yo
                                        turning 37 next month i believe
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                                        • budwiser
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                                          #160
                                          i'm not saying brown is a horrendous player. he adds something. but the idea that he is 37 minutes is some kind of a joke, when you have Griffin riding pine. Griffin hasn't been in so long it's hard to imagine him coming in at all.

                                          And he is destroying the team with his overconfidence and his comments. He thinks he's an 8 when he's a 2.

                                          Here it is from another angle, sad as it is. the guy who is not even on the court as Tatum hits a cherry layup as it is 5 on 4 is, you guessed it. Not even close to being on the court!!

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                                          • IBetYou
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                                            #161
                                            All that talk about don't poke the bear is for the birds. Shame on Durant for publicly putting him in his place -that;s something you say to him behind closed doors. As for Griffin, his best moments of late have come defending Anteto'. He's got muscles so he can defend the post a bit, but he's a horrible defender otherwise and a total deadweight offensively. Nash doesn't want him getting switched onto Tatum or it's murder.
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                                            • IBetYou
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                                              #162
                                              He & Paul Milsap belong in the Big3. Griffin is only 33yo (Milsap 37yo) but major knee issues for Griffin in his career. He's ruined.
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                                              • budwiser
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                All that talk about don't poke the bear is for the birds. Shame on Durant for publicly putting him in his place -that;s something you say to him behind closed doors. As for Griffin, his best moments of late have come defending Anteto'. He's got muscles so he can defend the post a bit, but he's a horrible defender otherwise and a total deadweight offensively. Nash doesn't want him getting switched onto Tatum or it's murder.

                                                Durant was told about it during a press conference, and had no time to respond. I suppose yeah he should have told him behind closed doors.

                                                Stats show Blake Griffin is not too bad, I know it's not all about stats:
                                                The 2022-23 NBA season stats per game for Blake Griffin of the Boston Celtics on ESPN. Includes full stats, per opponent, for regular and postseason.


                                                I don't know man, it is what it is. At this point you can't put him in, because he hasn't played any minutes. I mean even in GARBAGE TIME the team up 20 with a minute left he won't put him in. Just cut him, if that's the case. it's embarrassing for a guy like that who was an all start to be forced to smile through all of it, get embarrassed like that.

                                                Put the guy in at garbage time.

                                                Or, put in Aldridge. Anybody that knows pro ball knows a guy can get hot at any moment. You get your players a few minutes, if they get hot you keep them in. Instead as sk002 said it's the Durant-Irving show, and nothing else. That's not going to be enough.
                                                Last edited by budwiser; 04-18-22, 12:45 PM.
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                                                • hehfest
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                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by budwiser
                                                  Agree was wondering why Pritchard was riding the bench

                                                  Yeah I counted the Nets out before, when they lost to Charlotte, then they lost to Atlanta, and barely squeezed by a reeling Cavaliers team to get the 7th seed.

                                                  What I'm concerned about is Kyrie and Durant playing 4 on 5, because the Celtics are not playing Brown at all. So I'm not sure Durant does better in game 2, as 2 guys come flying at him all the time because we all know Brown is not a threat on offense. This was clear in the last play the Nets had, absolutely nobody guarded Brown, not even a thought. They guarded everyone else. Why nash and team can't see this is mind boggling to me, but I've said that 50 times already. At least put Curry and Dragic out there, who can shoot. At least put Blake out there, who can screen rebound dunk. Aldridge, who can shoot. Brown, what is he doing, even Edwards tries screens and gets physical. And they let the guy get 5 fouls, because they play him too much-he's a star, the coaching team thinks he's a star, everyone in the Nets circle thinks he's a star, for reasons in the stars. No punishment for that stupid, idiotic comment that got the Celtics riled up like they are disrespected underdogs as the 2 seed. And he's the reason they are small-playing a 6'4" guy at the power forward spot, 1 rebound in 37 minutes??

                                                  anyways, it is what it is. I had a long way to go anyways, and it's not over.

                                                  Yeah, that's bad. 1 rb in 37. Yikes. You're right. Not putting someone in to pretty much put the game away on their last possession where they ran the clock all the way down too. I only watched parts of this game, that'sIt why I didn't know as much about (NOT your boy) Brown. It will be interesting to see the next game and what, if anything, they do about this.
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                                                  • budwiser
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                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by hehfest
                                                    Yeah, that's bad. 1 rb in 37. Yikes. You're right. Not putting someone in to pretty much put the game away on their last possession where they ran the clock all the way down too. I only watched parts of this game, that'sIt why I didn't know as much about (NOT your boy) Brown. It will be interesting to see the next game and what, if anything, they do about this.
                                                    My guess is nothing. You can't put in Blake unless it's garbage situation, so the only option is to play more of Edwards or put in Aldridge who hasn't played a minute in weeks.

                                                    Word is Ben Simmons is expected back by Game 4. Probably too late, but certainly he can take minutes from Brown.

                                                    Not sure why they don't put Claxton and Drummond in at the same time. That's a force, makes them much bigger. The Celtics are not the Warriors shooting 3s. But, what do I know, Nash gets paid million$ and has been a superstar nba point guard.
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                                                    • Git Lo
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                                                      #166
                                                      Bruce brown showed up but now kyrie didn't even touch the ball in the 4th, that's crazy. If williams comes back celtics are locked for the ship imo
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                                                      • budwiser
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                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by Git Lo
                                                        Bruce brown showed up but now kyrie didn't even touch the ball in the 4th, that's crazy. If williams comes back celtics are locked for the ship imo
                                                        Yeah kyrie got fined $50k

                                                        it's not happening bad pick i didn't watch the game

                                                        They lost game 1

                                                        I didn't watch it was doing something, the nets are heartbreaking is what it is

                                                        Durant can't get shots they body him

                                                        Nash doesn't seem like he's sure what to do

                                                        No excuses my bad on to the next
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                                                        • budwiser
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                                                          #168
                                                          Always a learning experience even after all these years
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                                                          • pavyracer
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                                                            #169
                                                            What now?
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                                                            • sk0002
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                                                              #170
                                                              no defense no championship, simple as that, and Nets are too small to compete against Celtics.
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                                                              • budwiser
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                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                What now?
                                                                Nothing

                                                                Amazing nash finally put blake in 4th q he was big enough to defend on the perimeter set screens and rebound. Was calling for that for weeks

                                                                Durant looks washed

                                                                No excuses bad pick even with a better coach
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                                                                • budwiser
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by sk0002
                                                                  no defense no championship, simple as that, and Nets are too small to compete against Celtics.
                                                                  Ur right. And when you refuse to put griffin ina nd no drummond 4qs that happens

                                                                  Nash should be fired. But, the nets are done durant is over the hill achilles
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                                                                  • pabonaparte
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    They could start by winning a game...
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                                                                    • sk0002
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by budwiser
                                                                      Ur right. And when you refuse to put griffin ina nd no drummond 4qs that happens

                                                                      Nash should be fired. But, the nets are done durant is over the hill achilles
                                                                      It’s alright bro, nets blew their chances, had chances to win all 3 games and blew it… onto next series !!
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