Mr. Crumbs' WNBA Report Monday 6/8/09

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  • cocknocker
    Restricted User
    • 11-06-08
    • 8001

    #1
    Mr. Crumbs' WNBA Report Monday 6/8/09
    First off there's a need to update the Plenette Pierson injury on Saturday to her shoulder. She is listed as questionable for this game. Kara Braxton is out on suspension for her DUI over the offseason.

    I see that the line started out Sparks-1 and has now rose to Sparks -4.5. The earliest moneyline I see is Sparks -150 and it sits now squarely at -200. A -200/+170 line is indicative of a -4 line, which tells me that the Sparks are a little off on the spread. A -4.5 line is usually accomapnied by a corresponding line of -220/+180. That right away sent up red flags. The consensus was at 70% to 30% for quite a long time until it has now settled back into a more reasonable 60% to 40% still in favor of the Sparks. What appears to be happening is that the public drove the line up and then there was smart money played later on with Detroit. This is a triple revenge game for the Shock. But giving them points at home is a mistake. The Sparks did beat them at home in their last encounter, but prior to that win the Shock had beaten them three straight at home by an average of 7.5 points (skewed by a 14 point bowout win)

    This is basically a home and home affair, and in these circumstances it is usually the right thing to do by going the other way. The Sparks are getting too much mileage for the 20 point blowout win on Saturday. To give the defending champs this many points at home in their opener is a slap in the face. The Shock haven't lost a home opener since 2004 winning all of the rest by 8 points on average.

    You already know that them bitches will fight back, lol!

    Give me the defending champs as a home dog. I am buying a point and a half and playing the game this way:

    Detroit+6
  • stinkytofu
    SBR Hustler
    • 05-13-09
    • 66

    #2
    ugh, yet another person i respect on here leaning against me ><. sigh 3 units on 1st half and full game on the sparks. BOL!
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    • ebbearsfb1
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-07-08
      • 18815

      #3
      for some reason with the wnba in my book u can't buy a points.. is it still worth it at +4.5??
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      • RoagBettor
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-20-09
        • 8355

        #4
        Just play the ML at +170 or so. I don't like small spreads; with free throws at the end a 1 pt LA lead could turn into an 8 pt win and no cover for Detroit.
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        • cocknocker
          Restricted User
          • 11-06-08
          • 8001

          #5
          4.5 and 6 are one and the same. it will still take an LA win by 6 in order to beat you. I just like a little insurancewhen i make a play
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          • HoulihansTX
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-12-09
            • 30566

            #6
            Man Ck you seem to know alot about the WNBA? Your girl must tie you down and make you watch it with her? haha. I'm on the other side of your play today though. One of the few that cherry picked the opening line at Sparks PK.
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            • peeiempee
              SBR MVP
              • 01-21-09
              • 2750

              #7
              Anybody have any leans on the under?
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              • overdose.fR
                Restricted User
                • 02-11-09
                • 72

                #8
                Hi CK,

                Even though tonight I am with on all your baseball games, I gotta be against you with the WNBA. Here are the facts for the last year (from covers); as you can see the sparks covered the spread in the last 3 games

                DateHome/AwayLineM/LHome FG Away FG Reb06/06/09LA 78 - DET 58LA -5.5U 147.532/7219/6234-3607/22/08DET 81 - LA 84LA 5.5O 15328/7527/5336-2806/11/08LA 80 - DET 73LA -5DateHome/AwayLineM/LHome FG Away FG Reb06/06/09LA 78 - DET 58LA -5.5U 147.532/7219/6234-3607/22/08DET 81 - LA 84LA 5.5O 15328/7527/5336-2806/11/08LA 80 - DET 73LA -5
                Date
                Home/Away
                Line
                06/06/09
                LA 78 - DET 58
                LA -5.5
                07/22/08
                DET 81 - LA 84
                LA 5.5
                06/11/08
                LA 80 - DET 73
                LA -5


                also, here are some trends in favor of sparks:

                Sparks are 6-1 ATS in their last 7 games playing on 1 days rest.
                Sparks are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games overall.
                Sparks are 4-0 ATS in the last 4 meetings
                concernign the line movement you were talking about, I do not think it reflects a sharp play, but basically it does what is supposed to do.

                regards
                concerning the
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                • SexyMit
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-12-06
                  • 6139

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cocknocker
                  First off there's a need to update the Plenette Pierson injury on Saturday to her shoulder. She is listed as questionable for this game. Kara Braxton is out on suspension for her DUI over the offseason.

                  I see that the line started out Sparks-1 and has now rose to Sparks -4.5. The earliest moneyline I see is Sparks -150 and it sits now squarely at -200. A -200/+170 line is indicative of a -4 line, which tells me that the Sparks are a little off on the spread. A -4.5 line is usually accomapnied by a corresponding line of -220/+180. That right away sent up red flags. The consensus was at 70% to 30% for quite a long time until it has now settled back into a more reasonable 60% to 40% still in favor of the Sparks. What appears to be happening is that the public drove the line up and then there was smart money played later on with Detroit. This is a triple revenge game for the Shock. But giving them points at home is a mistake. The Sparks did beat them at home in their last encounter, but prior to that win the Shock had beaten them three straight at home by an average of 7.5 points (skewed by a 14 point bowout win)

                  This is basically a home and home affair, and in these circumstances it is usually the right thing to do by going the other way. The Sparks are getting too much mileage for the 20 point blowout win on Saturday. To give the defending champs this many points at home in their opener is a slap in the face. The Shock haven't lost a home opener since 2004 winning all of the rest by 8 points on average.

                  You already know that them bitches will fight back, lol!

                  Give me the defending champs as a home dog. I am buying a point and a half and playing the game this way:

                  Detroit+6
                  Already on it CK for the points that you have already mentioned! GL tonight
                  If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                  I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                  • Wilforth
                    Restricted User
                    • 05-10-08
                    • 16309

                    #10
                    Det ML is the play. No need for spreads here!
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                    • ebbearsfb1
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-07-08
                      • 18815

                      #11
                      lol wouldn't 5 win. i got the idea... lets go shock im on it
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                      • SexyMit
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-12-06
                        • 6139

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wilforth
                        Det ML is the play. No need for spreads here!
                        I was thinking that also... GL tonight!
                        If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                        I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                        • jmathes
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-19-09
                          • 2385

                          #13
                          I am going to apologize in advance for anyone that is tailing Detroit tonight. Sorry for you loss and i hope none of you guys bet too big. i caught this at pick and advised everyone yesterday. for everyone's sake maybe los angeles can win and detroit covers but i really don't see that happening. the sparks are an all star team by themselves. lisa leslie shot 3 of 11 with only 6 points and they still won by 20 points. with another injury, detroits depleted lineup can't handle the depth of the sparks. good luck all!
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                          • betonanything
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 06-08-09
                            • 35

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SexyMit
                            I was thinking that also... GL tonight!
                            I'll tail sexymit and ck on my 1st WNBA game of the season. I've been following ck since he's other forum days. Can't go against the legend...
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                            • SexyMit
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-12-06
                              • 6139

                              #15
                              I think you are going to be eating those words when Detroit wins outright tonight!
                              If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                              I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                              • RoagBettor
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-20-09
                                • 8355

                                #16
                                Well, if the WNBA is anything like the NBA then expect the refs to keep Detroit in the game.
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                                • SexyMit
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-12-06
                                  • 6139

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by RoagBettor
                                  Well, if the WNBA is anything like the NBA then expect the refs to keep Detroit in the game.
                                  If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                                  I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                                  • betonanything
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 06-08-09
                                    • 35

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SexyMit
                                    sexymit: i just ck out your spreadsheet for the first time. good job bro...! 64% NBA...
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                                    • cocknocker
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 11-06-08
                                      • 8001

                                      #19
                                      Detroit won the championship last year nd guys are writingthem off after a bad first game. They are not like Phoenix. Their basis is defense first. They will put the clamps on the Sparks bigs, and if need be, put an elbow in the face. Let's not forget that this is the return of the famous "Beaver Brawl" last year wherein Rick Mahorn wasn't even safe. There is bad blood between these teams, amybe lessened a bit by Parker being out on maternity leave, but no one is forgetting what happened last year.
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                                      • Vreston
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-12-09
                                        • 1428

                                        #20
                                        Thanks for posting your views on the WNBA. I don't know sh*t about it so I'll be tailing you guys now and then.
                                        I've read a lot of guys saying that it's an ATM. I sure hope so.
                                        I'll be tailing you on that spread. I'll follow CK and Sexy in basketball any day.
                                        Thanks again.
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                                        • RoagBettor
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-20-09
                                          • 8355

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cocknocker
                                          Detroit won the championship last year nd guys are writingthem off after a bad first game. They are not like Phoenix. Their basis is defense first. They will put the clamps on the Sparks bigs, and if need be, put an elbow in the face. Let's not forget that this is the return of the famous "Beaver Brawl" last year wherein Rick Mahorn wasn't even safe. There is bad blood between these teams, amybe lessened a bit by Parker being out on maternity leave, but no one is forgetting what happened last year.
                                          Assuming Detroit holds onto this 20 pt lead, if anyone ever doubted your capping and analysis they really need to get a life.
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                                          • SportsTerminator
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-18-09
                                            • 5179

                                            #22
                                            I want my $ back lol. So does the beating continue 2nd half or does the Sparks cut the lead? You would think the Sparks would cut the lead.
                                            Bet To Win
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                                            • Jimbo42
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-04-09
                                              • 2076

                                              #23
                                              Play Detroit 2nd half...
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                                              • stinkytofu
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 05-13-09
                                                • 66

                                                #24
                                                congrats on the detroit backers.......ugh so ugly.
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                                                • Jimbo42
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                  • 2076

                                                  #25
                                                  Booked:
                                                  Detroit +5.5 (-105) 2nd Half
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                                                  • stinkytofu
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 05-13-09
                                                    • 66

                                                    #26
                                                    **** my book in asia doesnt have 2nd half for the wbna?
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                                                    • RoagBettor
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-20-09
                                                      • 8355

                                                      #27
                                                      -6 at Bookmaker. Probably a good play but not touching it since I have Detroit ML
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                                                      • Jimbo42
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                        • 2076

                                                        #28
                                                        with 26 pt lead, 5.5 is a key number as det will have to win by 21.. most ppl will think that la can at least cut it under 20
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                                                        • Jimbo42
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-04-09
                                                          • 2076

                                                          #29
                                                          Man the Greek will not come off that 5.5... they are jus messing with the juice...
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                                                          • chipper13101
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 04-27-08
                                                            • 405

                                                            #30
                                                            Congrats to all the Detroit backers. The Sparks are on the receiving end of a good ol fashion biatch slappin' as payback for the other day. Could be some black eyes and puffy faces after this one.
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                                                            • BTTNext
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 04-06-09
                                                              • 355

                                                              #31
                                                              Thanks for the insight CK that's a money pick.
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                                                              • SportsTerminator
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-18-09
                                                                • 5179

                                                                #32
                                                                I was so tempted to take Sparks -6 but I'm staying away from it. I'll get it back tomorrow hopefully with Orlando 1st Quarter or 1st Half.
                                                                Bet To Win
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                                                                • SexyMit
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-12-06
                                                                  • 6139

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by betonanything
                                                                  I'll tail sexymit and ck on my 1st WNBA game of the season. I've been following ck since he's other forum days. Can't go against the legend...
                                                                  If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                                                                  I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                                                                  • ebbearsfb1
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-07-08
                                                                    • 18815

                                                                    #34
                                                                    awesome ck... awesome... wish they were all this easy
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                                                                    • SexyMit
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-12-06
                                                                      • 6139

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jmathes
                                                                      I am going to apologize in advance for anyone that is tailing Sparks tonight. Sorry for you loss and i hope none of you guys bet too big.!
                                                                      I fixed it for you buddy!
                                                                      If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                                                                      I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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