How in the hell are the Cav's favored in game 4

[jsmithj88]

this is reminding me of game 4 and 6 of the rockets/lakers game and when dwight was suspended vs sixers
it almost seems tooooo easy to take orlando

[unknown Gambler]

Probably the 10th post in this thread when u called everybody squares...

Yes, but it was post 24.

[NBA Hero]

I am against the cavs unyill they grow some balls and make lebron guard someone on the magic that matters. I have heard about his defense all year and they put him on Alston! Hedo is killing them, put bron on him stop the penetration, and you stop the open threes. Why do I know this and not the coach?

can they fire the coach after winning an award when they lose this series. their games against orl are painful to watch. LoL

[Dark Horse]

Unfortunately SBR Odds, which I'm still using, has become unreliable. So I'm not sure how much to read into the line history. But aside from that it's pretty clear that if one of the big three (CRIS, Greek, Pinny) is a 1/2 pt off and asking for action on Orlando +1.5, it's very unlikely that the public (as in squares) moved the line. I would advice against 'pounding Orlando' as some have suggested here.

Cleveland should take care of business here, with or without zebra help (no question that the NBA does want Lebron in the finals). I think the under is the play, but the refs seem to have been instructed to call the games differently. After some gritty playoff basketball, these last two nights were suddenly turned into free throw fests, with 86 FT's Sunday night, and 84 FT's last night. That can't be trusted, so I'm passing on a very strong UNDER angle. (see 74% record for NBA totals here: http://spaces.covers.com/DarkHorse21?t=0 )

[Irish Jet]

Can't see Orlando losing to be honest.

May put a bit on them.

[Shortstop]

Coin flip.

[Irish Jet]

The bookies have been pretty down on the Magic througout this series.

They've covered every time.

[MBENZ]

Cleveland will not be favored at post time.

[BCaldwell32]

You guys just need to realize that the lines are not put out to trap people, they set the lines to get equal money on both sides and clean up on all the juice we are paying. The lines makers know that the idiotic betting public loves overrated Lebron James and they will bet on him regardless of the line. The true line for this game and should have been for game 3 is about Orlando -2.5 and maybe even 3. However knowing the donkey public is gonna bet Cleveland, they make the line more in Orlando's favor to try to get equal action and look what happened, it started at Orlando -1 and all the morons hammered Cleveland so now they had no choice but to move the line to get Orlando action. Bottom line is that Orlando is the much better team which is ridiculous to me that you guys all do not realize that yet!! Cleveland has no offense except for Lebron and he cannot win by himself, and they have been looking terrible on offense because Orlando has a great defense. Anything can happen in this game but Orlando is clearly the better team playing on their home court and they smell blood and they will take care of business tomorrow. Win or lose, it is a sucker bet to take Cleveland tomorrow, they have been overrated all year beating up on terrible teams and now they are showing that they are a one man team.

[payingthejuice]

Cavaliers went 8-0 in the Playoffs aginst which teams? Detroit and Atlanta .....

Once they face a team more on their level, they falter. Give me the Magic (the much better team and at home, to take a 3-1 lead before game 5 in cleveland) and the +points for $1540

[redbull]

Orlando +2 , free money for summer time party

and small unit , total points
LBJ vs Howard
take LBJ , ( last time game 3 -13.5 ) for game 4 not come yet
and Over , ( last time game 3 56.5 )

[VVET]

It takes a Team

Lebron will take over the game. He's that good.

King James can't do it himself: 40+ points or not. Takes a team and the Cavs have not been playing as a team. The Magic have and the Magic will continue. Take the Magic.

[MBENZ]

You guys just need to realize that the lines are not put out to trap people, they set the lines to get equal money on both sides and clean up on all the juice we are paying. The lines makers know that the idiotic betting public loves overrated Lebron James and they will bet on him regardless of the line. The true line for this game and should have been for game 3 is about Orlando -2.5 and maybe even 3. However knowing the donkey public is gonna bet Cleveland, they make the line more in Orlando's favor to try to get equal action and look what happened, it started at Orlando -1 and all the morons hammered Cleveland so now they had no choice but to move the line to get Orlando action. Bottom line is that Orlando is the much better team which is ridiculous to me that you guys all do not realize that yet!! Cleveland has no offense except for Lebron and he cannot win by himself, and they have been looking terrible on offense because Orlando has a great defense. Anything can happen in this game but Orlando is clearly the better team playing on their home court and they smell blood and they will take care of business tomorrow. Win or lose, it is a sucker bet to take Cleveland tomorrow, they have been overrated all year beating up on terrible teams and now they are showing that they are a one man team.

Precisely,good post.Might add that VanGundy actually coaches the whole game and makes the needed corrections whilst his counterpart stands on the sidelines with that"deer in the headlights look".

[cockblocker]

Probably the 10th post in this thread when u called everybody squares...

Too bad I only had 2 posts in this thread.

[cockblocker]

you make a comment about other posters being square and clueless, then you make a comment stating the bookmakers KNOW THE cAVS WILL WIN.

Thats the reason they put the Cavs as a favorite. Another example is last nights 2nd half spread Lakers at a pk. It put the game line Lakers +7. That basically told you the Lakers had no shot to cover the game. Sucker bet of the year right there.

[chipper13101]

Follow the money boys. Will more money be made for the NBA and the two teams involved if Orlando wins. Don't think so. This one is going back to Cleveland tied 2-2. Lebron/Kobe in the finals. Kobe/Dwight doesn't have the same commercial viability. Just sayin'........ Good luck to all.

[PorkChop]

Orlando simply has Cleveland number. And i cant explain it.

[PorkChop]

I dont know how you dont play Orlando again,..its unbelievable.

Should have caught them on the series price before game 1.

[mikejung75]

i am just staying away form this game..just to be safe..its a very confusing bet

[BCaldwell32]

Follow the money boys. Will more money be made for the NBA and the two teams involved if Orlando wins. Don't think so. This one is going back to Cleveland tied 2-2. Lebron/Kobe in the finals. Kobe/Dwight doesn't have the same commercial viability. Just sayin'........ Good luck to all.

First of all nice chipper!!! The Nba has no control over who is gonna play in the NBA finals, you guys talk like Stern has some button he can push to decide the games. Of course Kobe vs Lebron would be the best thing for the NBA but I do not see it happening and the league has no control over it!!

[Slanina]

It's the Conference finals. It's amazing to what I'm reading here. So many people counting out the cavaliers after a 2-1 series. The finals are meant to have the best 4 teams left in the NBA. It's not going to be 4-0 series. My god.

[chipper13101]

First of all nice chipper!!! The Nba has no control over who is gonna play in the NBA finals, you guys talk like Stern has some button he can push to decide the games. Of course Kobe vs Lebron would be the best thing for the NBA but I do not see it happening and the league has no control over it!!

yeh, you're right. It's the best team that will win, forget the $$$.

[SexyMit]

Vegas would be FILTHY RICH if Cleveland loses this series. WHat was the price when the series 1st opened? EVERYONE was taking Cleveland no hesitation to win the series. They were not even tested the 1st 2 series, you tell me. Everyone and there MOM took Cleveland to win the series, you have ALOT more took them at begining of the yr to win the championship, Alot of people took Lakers to win championship. So you tell me how much better Vegas would do if Cleveland doesn't make it out of this rd? I also posted in another thread that it wouldn't make since, since they have these commercials with LBJ and Kobe in them for them not to play each other in the finals either. Soo you NEVER know what is going to happen! GL with your wagers and just wait and only time will tell what is going to happen!

[flyingillini]

I am on Cleveland

[Buckeye]

Cleveland -1.5 is crazy. They have not proved then can even beat Orlando and the fact Mo Williams is running his mouth off tonight that Cleveland is going to win for sure makes want to take Orlando even more. Good players go out and win games and keep their moUths shut, Williams neEds to shut up he has not done a thing this series!

[MBENZ]

The info has been right here under your nosesTEAMSUATSOUAVG SCOREAVG ½ SCORE FG%REB3PT MADESTEALSCleveland3-71-95-597.351.543.742.268 - 1896.2Orlando7-39-15-5104.249.147.339.7105 - 2606.9
Somebody explain why Cleveland was -500 in this series?Whomever laid that wood was blindly following Lebron and not reading.
WTF,why this didn't print right is beyond me,bottom line,last 10 games Orl 7-3 su 9-1 ats

[Zyma]

I'm rollin with Magic.
Cavs haven't done anyhting, in this series, to make me think they can break tonight...

[Kyleben]

Orlando really messes with cleveland when they go big (lee,hedo,dwight,lewis,petrius) Im not sure if any team can match that size and strenght, as long as lee makes good decesions at the point, which is what he frequently played at west kent. they should take this game again. Lee is the X-factor when he gets penetration this team is unstoppable offensivly.

[SportsTerminator]

This is one of those games where you no play it. So I'm going to wait this out and play on game 5 on the Cavs. I hoping the Cavs lose today that way I can POUND them game 5. But I have a strong feeling the Cavs will win tonight. And if they do win tonight I think Cavs game 5 is still the right play.

[paco]

Trap Game For sure! Orl takes this at home tonight

[paco]

its funny how everyone claims the league will forcefully put 2 teams in, lol, if that was the case, why were the pistons in the finals twice? they were a good team but VERY BORING, VERY BORING , and the worse finals rating ever

[Rizzla]

After reading 2 - 3 threads about this game has made me confused so the smart thing should just be to put the money on the Penguins tonight.

I wanna make $$$ so I'm not touching this one
Have fun guys!

[Irish Jet]

its funny how everyone claims the league will forcefully put 2 teams in, lol, if that was the case, why were the pistons in the finals twice? they were a good team but VERY BORING, VERY BORING , and the worse finals rating ever

Yup, The Spurs didn't exactly scream excitement either.

[chipper13101]

its funny how everyone claims the league will forcefully put 2 teams in, lol, if that was the case, why were the pistons in the finals twice? they were a good team but VERY BORING, VERY BORING , and the worse finals rating ever

Recent financial crisis, NBA needs a can't miss big market final with a couple of big name superstars. Let's face it, Dwight howard isn't a household name. Just sayin'....

[Mac4Lyfe]

See mac this is why I love our debates. Even though you are a homer and will defend Lebron to the fullest you still cap the game with logical thinking. I like that there are a lot of guys here who love a player and will bet their team, because they don't want to go against them. I am a huge Michigan Wolverines fan if I don't think they will win I just won't play on it and I can still hope for them to win. I never bet against my team only for them if I think they are the play and just lay off if they are not the play. I would suggest you do the same lay off of the game that way you know who to cheer for during the game.

My love for a team in no way affects my judgement in who to bet on. I like the Cav's and Lebron but I love money much much more. If I see a lean, I have to jump on it regardless of the team/players. Hell I'd bet against my momma if I didn't think she would cover a spread

That said, I've got Orlando +1/2 for the first half and +1.5 for the game. Let's cash this bitch