This has to be it for Carmelo in New York right?

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  • shocka1212
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    • 10-06-12
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    #36
    Originally posted by Goat Milk
    You think Porzingis is a number 1 option on a championship team? I don't see it. I don't think building a team works either in today's NBA unless you get really lucky like 2 or 3 years in a row like Warriors did with Curry Thompson then Green. It's all about free agency these days.
    And to be able to spend in free Agency, they need to get rid of Melo, Rose and Noah (wtf were they thinking). Rather than thinking of a cavs or lakers championship, Porzingis would be the centerpiece on something like the Mavs team that won the title.
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    • Philmill
      SBR MVP
      • 09-30-11
      • 4275

      #37
      Melo needs better players around him....knicks cant win with the cast of guys
      they have...

      Melo not going anywhere.... Phil is the guy that needs to go...!
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      • RockBottom
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        • 12-03-08
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        #38
        Originally posted by shocka1212
        And to be able to spend in free Agency, they need to get rid of Melo, Rose and Noah (wtf were they thinking). Rather than thinking of a cavs or lakers championship, Porzingis would be the centerpiece on something like the Mavs team that won the title.
        The last good move the Bulls did this year was getting rid of Noah and Rose.
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        • shocka1212
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          • 10-06-12
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          #39
          Originally posted by jjgold
          I want him on Boston

          Might actually start liking him then
          Boston dumb if they don't trade for him. Melo would agree. They're holding on to Brooklyns draft pick like it's gold. This years draft not that good
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          • packerd_00
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            • 05-22-13
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            #40
            Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
            I say a backup forward and a number 1 from the Clippers is all it takes.
            I think the Knicks would end up getting the better of the deal in my opinion.
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            • shadymcgrady
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              • 02-27-12
              • 10036

              #41
              Melo is as much a cancer as he is individually skilled and talented which is significant in both regards.

              We can sit around and bash melo or D rape or the next player or face of the franchise but the truth is as long as that humongous POS James dolan owns the team, the Knicks will always be a joke.
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              • shadymcgrady
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                • 02-27-12
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                #42
                Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                Melo is as much a cancer as he is individually skilled and talented which is significant in both regards.

                We can sit around and bash melo or D rape or the next player or face of the franchise but the truth is as long as that humongous POS James dolan owns the team, the Knicks will always be a joke.
                With that being said the Knicks will most likely cover and win SU tonight
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                • Goat Milk
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                  • 03-24-10
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by shocka1212
                  And to be able to spend in free Agency, they need to get rid of Melo, Rose and Noah (wtf were they thinking). Rather than thinking of a cavs or lakers championship, Porzingis would be the centerpiece on something like the Mavs team that won the title.
                  Porzingis isn't a center piece. Can't compare porzingis to dirk. Dirk was a top 5 player in the world for many many years. I don't see porzingis ever getting to that. Top 20 yeah. All star. Don't see him being an MVP.
                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                  • Goat Milk
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                    • 03-24-10
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                    #44
                    And btw lakerman, Dirk never played D his entire career. Got a ring and an mvp and is an all time great.

                    Defense not nearly as important as offense in the NBA. Even if you have the best defender in the world, the best offensive players will kill him every time. You just gotta try and minimize the damage. That's why no one is beating the Warriors. Even if Kawai leonard, the best defender in the league, guards Durant for 7 games, Durant is gonna average 30 against him. You can't stop great offense. That's why Melo has never been stopped.
                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                    • SBRMAN23
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                      • 01-07-11
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by shocka1212
                      Boston dumb if they don't trade for him. Melo would agree. They're holding on to Brooklyns draft pick like it's gold. This years draft not that good
                      the first statement i agree with but the latter is not very smart in my opinion. This draft is loaded with talent and depth all the way into the 2nd round and Brklyn pick is pretty much gold so yea. Either way they should pull the trigger on Melo as they have a win now team with lots of depth already and Brklyn 2018 pick as well so wouldnt hurt that much to give up one for an all time great scorer.
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                      • Goat Milk
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                        #46
                        Anther dominant performance by Carmelo

                        Build around Porzingis? Guy disappears during games. Will never be on par with Melo his entire career.

                        Can't wait until this guy leaves the Knicks and can go to a team that appreciates him.

                        Anyone saying Melo is washed up has no clue what they're saying.

                        YOu can't score 40 pts in the NBA consistently and be washed up. It doesn't happen.
                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                        • jjgold
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                          • 07-20-05
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                          #47
                          He is not washed up

                          never was

                          It just seems wherever he plays his teams are not good
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                          • SBRMAN23
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                            • 01-07-11
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Goat Milk
                            Anther dominant performance by Carmelo

                            Build around Porzingis? Guy disappears during games. Will never be on par with Melo his entire career.

                            Can't wait until this guy leaves the Knicks and can go to a team that appreciates him.

                            Anyone saying Melo is washed up has no clue what they're saying.

                            YOu can't score 40 pts in the NBA consistently and be washed up. It doesn't happen.
                            Its not about being washed up everyone knows what he brings to the table. He is also 33 and we are not playing well and don't have the right players around him they are also young. Time to move on and rebuild with youth and draft nobody is saying Porz will be Melo but it's about the future. We can't beat Dallas philly Atlanta mid tier teams that's sad
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                            • jjgold
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                              • 07-20-05
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                              #49
                              Melo just a loser player

                              No idea why
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                              • rm18
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                                • 09-20-05
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                                #50
                                45 means nothing, Tony Delk, Tracy Murray, Corey Brewer, and Terrence Ross all drop 50+. Carmelo is just a jump shooter, cannot jump over a phone book.
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                                • chico2663
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                                  • 09-02-10
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                                  #51
                                  i would love to see him go to rockets. They have lost 8 out 11 I think. Tired of seeing harden shoot them out of the game Thinking of it could you imagine him on okc?
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                                  • SBRMAN23
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                                    • 01-07-11
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                    i would love to see him go to rockets. They have lost 8 out 11 I think. Tired of seeing harden shoot them out of the game Thinking of it could you imagine him on okc?
                                    He wouldnt waive his ntc to go there he hates Mike from his time in Ny they always bumped heads
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                                    • shocka1212
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                                      • 10-06-12
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by chico2663
                                      i would love to see him go to rockets. They have lost 8 out 11 I think. Tired of seeing harden shoot them out of the game Thinking of it could you imagine him on okc?
                                      Lol another shooter in Houston? Melo already got D'Antoni fired once.. not happening again
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                                      • krk1030
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                                        • 08-13-08
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                                        #54
                                        The melo hate is ridiculous. Should this be it for him in NY? Yes, but it's not his fault. They have failed miserably to build a decent team around him over his time. It's pretty clear adding a washed up Rose and a noah was not the answer. Time to move him and get something for him and try to build around porzingis.


                                        Cavs should trade love for him, but if im the knicks id rather just get some draft picks and send him to the clippers.
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                                        • shocka1212
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                                          • 10-06-12
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by krk1030
                                          The melo hate is ridiculous. Should this be it for him in NY? Yes, but it's not his fault. They have failed miserably to build a decent team around him over his time. It's pretty clear adding a washed up Rose and a noah was not the answer. Time to move him and get something for him and try to build around porzingis.


                                          Cavs should trade love for him, but if im the knicks id rather just get some draft picks and send him to the clippers.
                                          Ehh, clevelands need is more of a PG perimeter defender type, no?
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                                          • chico2663
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by shocka1212
                                            Ehh, clevelands need is more of a PG perimeter defender type, no?
                                            cavs need someone to take the pressure off lebron. He wants to make the pass. Korver allows them to get rid of love
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                                            • shocka1212
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                                              • 10-06-12
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by chico2663
                                              cavs need someone to take the pressure off lebron. He wants to make the pass. Korver allows them to get rid of love
                                              Love can create his own shot though. They should really keep him.
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                                              • Git Lo
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                                                • 02-20-11
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                                                #58
                                                Pelicans should want him, they play slower ball and need someone to play with jrue and AD. Knicks would be dumb to get rid of him though. Can't really think of any other team who is in playoff contention who would want him.
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                                                • dlunc3
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                                                  • 10-31-09
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                  Anther dominant performance by Carmelo

                                                  Build around Porzingis? Guy disappears during games. Will never be on par with Melo his entire career.

                                                  Can't wait until this guy leaves the Knicks and can go to a team that appreciates him.

                                                  Anyone saying Melo is washed up has no clue what they're saying.

                                                  YOu can't score 40 pts in the NBA consistently and be washed up. It doesn't happen.
                                                  Consistently? Do you know how long it's been since he's put up 40 prior to tonight? Here's a hint... james harden has done it 30 times since then
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                                                  • Goat Milk
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by dlunc3
                                                    Consistently? Do you know how long it's been since he's put up 40 prior to tonight? Here's a hint... james harden has done it 30 times since then
                                                    Here's a hint. Teams gameplan to stop Melo when they play the Knicks. They're not gameplanning and pulling their hairs out over porzingis or rose...

                                                    On a team with Paul George and Butler and Kyrie in the Olympics...who got the ball in crucial moments? Melo. Why? Because he's the best offensive player out of all of them. That says it all bro

                                                    Enough said
                                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                    • Git Lo
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                                                      • 02-20-11
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by dlunc3
                                                      Consistently? Do you know how long it's been since he's put up 40 prior to tonight? Here's a hint... james harden has done it 30 times since then
                                                      assuming thats true, thats crazy perspective. Harden is looking like Mr. MVP too right now
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                                                      • Goat Milk
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by rm18
                                                        45 means nothing, Tony Delk, Tracy Murray, Corey Brewer, and Terrence Ross all drop 50+. Carmelo is just a jump shooter, cannot jump over a phone book.
                                                        Yeah, how high you jump determines how good an NBA player you are. Swerve bro. Carmelo is a hall of amer and you just named a bunch of no names. You disrespect greatness. Doesn't matter though because he'll be in the hall.
                                                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                        • jjgold
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                                                          • 07-20-05
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                                                          #63
                                                          Whatever Anythony scores it never matters

                                                          Let me end the thread

                                                          He makes NOBODY BETTER ON THE TEAM NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL
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                                                          • cwnotorious
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                                                            • 05-13-13
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                            You keep obsessing over certain players. Anthony is one of the biggest waste of talents ever. Great players play both ends of the court.
                                                            Steve nash back to back mvp's and doesnt play a lick of defense
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                                                            • PorkChop
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                                                              • 09-18-08
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                                                              #65
                                                              Melo stays.

                                                              LeBron joins Knicks in two years to finish out career.
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                                                              • Bill Dozer
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                                                                • 07-12-05
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by chico2663

                                                                cavs need someone to take the pressure off lebron. He wants to make the pass. Korver allows them to get rid of love
                                                                I was thinking the same thing then I looked at the stats. Love is 10th in the league with 11 boards. Korver at 6'7 gets 1 per. Im not sure you make that up with Tristan Thompson and Melo.
                                                                Originally posted by Git Lo
                                                                assuming thats true, thats crazy perspective. Harden is looking like Mr. MVP too right now
                                                                Harden avgs 6 points per game more on less attempts. Thats a lot of points.
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                                                                • jjgold
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                                                                  • 07-20-05
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  most likely not going anywhere

                                                                  He loves NY and never cared about winning
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                                                                  • shadymcgrady
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                                                                    • 02-27-12
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    James Dolan has to go
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                                                                    • Bill Dozer
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                                                                      • 07-12-05
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Melo is under contract through next season. Phil Jackson's best play IMO is to let him rot on the Knicks roster through 2018 so he opens up the teams he will approve a trade to. They can't send him to Cavs unless they get Kevin Love. Why not keep him for a while? He is selling jerseys and they suck anyways. No risk to their lottery pick.
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                                                                      • jjgold
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                                                                        • 07-20-05
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Don't think big market for melo

                                                                        Team concept and team defense wins and that is not his game

                                                                        He wants to hold ball and score

                                                                        Not good
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