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  • Bill Dozer
    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
    • 07-12-05
    • 10894

    #1
    The Cavs should send Durant and the Thunder an honorary ring.
    I dont think the Cavs beat GSW if OKC doesnt take them to 7 games. Not to mention injuries and recovery time. The Cavs practically had a bye to the finals.
  • BigDofBA
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-09
    • 19311

    #2
    Yeah. OKC wore them down a little.
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    • Bill Dozer
      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
      • 07-12-05
      • 10894

      #3
      Imagine if GSW had the Raptors? Cmon
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      • TheMoneyShot
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-14-07
        • 28672

        #4
        Bill I have to question the shot selection of G.S. late in the 4th. I had Cleveland for the series.... just an underdog wager... blah blah blah...

        Every shot they were looking for was a 3 pointer. Yes, I know that's what they do... but man... anywhere inside for a 2 pointer was wide open.

        But... come on... this series was rigged.

        Cleveland was dead in the water after Game 4. Lebron James's body language.... looked like a beaten man.

        Regardless... I'm glad the NBA is over. I can't take anymore of this sh#$. Erase my brain... come back in November.
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        • Bill Dozer
          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
          • 07-12-05
          • 10894

          #5
          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
          Bill I have to question the shot selection of G.S. late in the 4th. I had Cleveland for the series.... just an underdog wager... blah blah blah...

          Every shot they were looking for was a 3 pointer. Yes, I know that's what they do... but man... anywhere inside for a 2 pointer was wide open.

          But... come on... this series was rigged.

          Cleveland was dead in the water after Game 4. Lebron James's body language.... looked like a beaten man.

          Regardless... I'm glad the NBA is over. I can't take anymore of this sh#$. Erase my brain... come back in November.
          I was watching my daughters AAU games this past weekend. They are a newer team and they typically get whooped. The refs aren't supposed to know the score but when the game starts off, the calls are tight. When we are down 15 we start to get a few our way. When we are down more than that, god help us, the other team is usually yelling at the refs because their kids deserve to get the foul or the and-1s. Do I think its rigged to even out? No. Do I think the refs try to avoid being the nail in our coffin? Absolutely. When you have an opponent on the mat, you got to finish em. That last knockout is the hardest. I know the NBA isn't AAU and its not about getting a close game but I do think there is some human nature there. So much of officiating in bball is subjective. You can play as good or a little better and still lose because of calls. That's why you play a 7 game series. Skip Bayless was tweeting excuses for why Lebron, who he hates, got the win, and I think he said the Warriors shot 20% in 4th quarter threes. The highest octane team in league history went something like 8 trips without a FG or 1 for 8 or something in game 7. Whatever it was, it was a disaster. Curry looked like a YMCA pickup. Wetbrook had to know he was a few better decisions away from beating that lesser Cavs team.
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          • Ratzz
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-07-10
            • 8965

            #6
            Originally posted by Bill Dozer
            I dont think the Cavs beat GSW if OKC doesnt take them to 7 games. Not to mention injuries and recovery time. The Cavs practically had a bye to the finals.

            lol.. what a stupid thread.

            Lebron and Heat smoked OKC in 5 Games when they HAD HARDEN...

            wtf are you talking about, Lebron is 18-5 vs. DURANT

            beat OKC twice this season

            The matchup between LeBron James and Kevin Durant went the way most of the matchups between the two have gone, with a few statistical wrinkles.

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            • CanuckG
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-23-10
              • 21976

              #7
              Really? They were down 3-1. It wasn't a cakewalk.
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              • CWD
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-22-12
                • 7667

                #8
                this series left so many here an emotional wreck i lost count

                sbr should issue a moratorium on cavs posts for at least a few weeks

                get over it dozer whatever side you were on
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                • Mac4Lyfe
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-04-09
                  • 48350

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                  I dont think the Cavs beat GSW if OKC doesnt take them to 7 games. Not to mention injuries and recovery time. The Cavs practically had a bye to the finals.
                  GS was up 3 to 1. Come on man. Did OKC give GS some type of special powers early in this series? Then took them away?

                  Cleveland figured GS out and started to doing what they were doing all year long. Play in your face defense and shut down the paint. Cleveland turned GS into a jump shooting 3 point team and denied all the easy layups they were getting earlier in the series. The Cav's stopped switching on everything and only switched on Curry and Klay made a huge difference. Stop trying to downplay what the Cav's accomplished.

                  The Cav's would have beaten OKC most likely in 5. Lebron has owned Durant and Westbrick every year in the league. OKC had no bearing on this series. If anything, GS came into this series sky high confident after coming back.
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                  • Bill Dozer
                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                    • 07-12-05
                    • 10894

                    #10
                    Lets not pretend that the path to the finals doesnt matter. Lets say two guys are about to fight in a boxing match and are both walking to the stadium. Guy #1's path crosses a gang and he has to fight his way past then keeps walking. Guy #2 has an 8th grader that wont move so he kicks him in the nuts and keeps walking. The Raptors are that 8th grader.
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                    • CWD
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-22-12
                      • 7667

                      #11
                      oh brother
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                      • Menses
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-15-13
                        • 2755

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                        I dont think the Cavs beat GSW if OKC doesnt take them to 7 games. Not to mention injuries and recovery time. The Cavs practically had a bye to the finals.
                        OKC had nothing to do with it...the CAVS were beating WHO ever came out of the WEST...GSW was not worn down by OKC...OKC stood DOWN.....
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                        • Menses
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-15-13
                          • 2755

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ratzz
                          lol.. what a stupid thread.

                          Lebron and Heat smoked OKC in 5 Games when they HAD HARDEN...

                          wtf are you talking about, Lebron is 18-5 vs. DURANT

                          beat OKC twice this season

                          http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...ost-every-time
                          Not only that...they smoked OKC by 30 points in OKC earlier in the year....
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                          • lakerboy
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-02-09
                            • 94366

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ratzz
                            lol.. what a stupid thread.

                            Lebron and Heat smoked OKC in 5 Games when they HAD HARDEN...

                            wtf are you talking about, Lebron is 18-5 vs. DURANT

                            beat OKC twice this season

                            http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...ost-every-time
                            Okc was a different team in the playoffs. If cavs met them same time state did okc beats cavs in 5.
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                            • zam77
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-03-10
                              • 3586

                              #15
                              CAVS best team in league and get rings and Larry trophy for winning the Finals. There is no fuckkng 2nd place... Hahahahahah. It was a beautiful thing how they did it against warriors... Durant and Westbrook had their chance and they blew it. They'll never win it all because they're not good enough to beat the best in 7 game series. Not a chance they'll get past warriors. This year was it and they blew it. They deserve shit sandwiches for choking so bad... Hahaha honorary ring... That's funny
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                              • CWD
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-22-12
                                • 7667

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Menses
                                OKC had nothing to do with it...the CAVS were beating WHO ever came out of the WEST...GSW was not worn down by OKC...OKC stood DOWN.....
                                draymond suspension ONLY reason they won this was no team of destiny
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                                • rizespor
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-21-16
                                  • 1900

                                  #17
                                  Or maybe they should send it to the Warriors for chasing the record or even for I don't know, how about NOT SCORING A SINGLE POINT in the last 5 minutes
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                                  • Menses
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-15-13
                                    • 2755

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CWD
                                    draymond suspension ONLY reason they won this was no team of destiny
                                    You are quite naive....things are never that obvious...Draymond's suspension was only necessary for you to bet the Warriors in game 6...as the narrative was that Draymond's return would restore balance to the series....how did that work out ? If Draymond plays in game 5...GSW finds another way to lose....They were NOT going to WIN this series regardless of the circumstance....the only variable in question was HOW MUCH money was going to be LOST by the public betting on GSW....
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                                    • pilebuck13
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-15-15
                                      • 17916

                                      #19
                                      Season over NBA soap opera starts next season mlb some soccer and football coming soon wonder if they will have beat the prick contest
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                                      • CWD
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-22-12
                                        • 7667

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Menses
                                        You are quite naive....things are never that obvious...Draymond's suspension was only necessary for you to bet the Warriors in game 6...as the narrative was that Draymond's return would restore balance to the series....how did that work out ? If Draymond plays in game 5...GSW finds another way to lose....They were NOT going to WIN this series regardless of the circumstance....the only variable in question was HOW MUCH money was going to be LOST by the public betting on GSW....
                                        i defer to any1 from mensa
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                                        • Bill Dozer
                                          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                          • 07-12-05
                                          • 10894

                                          #21
                                          If nothing else you can deny that the OKC required 3 more [big minute] games than the Raptors would have required. Thats big. Especially considering Curry missed 4 games in the series before with a knee problem and rolled an ankle in OKC series. He played 3 games after that. Then, suddenly Kevin Love is a defensive stopper o Curry in game 7?

                                          Injuries are part of the game. No one is healthy by the end of June. You can even give Lebron credit for the strategy of signing with a team in the East. Its absolutely easier to win the trophy.

                                          OKC sweeps this team IMO...
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                                          • bigtymer56
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-31-12
                                            • 4742

                                            #22
                                            Stop trying to take credit away from Cleveland. They earned it.
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                                            • Muller Rose
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 06-01-16
                                              • 219

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                              Yeah. OKC wore them down a little.
                                              I agree with this! GSW was a little over worked while Lebron and his team had weeks to relax and chill.
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                                              • Bill Dozer
                                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                • 07-12-05
                                                • 10894

                                                #24
                                                GSW actually had disadvantages at some positions vs OKC. Toronto had zero advantage vs Cleveland. Toronto has players you couldnt pick out of a lineup. Without looking, what is the first name of the non guards?? ....exactly
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                                                • YouHave2outs
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-02-11
                                                  • 4448

                                                  #25
                                                  ^^ tyson amir jonas
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                                                  • jizay
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-07-09
                                                    • 975

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                    I dont think the Cavs beat GSW if OKC doesnt take them to 7 games. Not to mention injuries and recovery time. The Cavs practically had a bye to the finals.
                                                    So the Cavs play a 6 game series in the East finals and GSW plays a 7 game series. That one game destroyed them.
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                                                    • milwaukee mike
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 08-22-07
                                                      • 26914

                                                      #27
                                                      makes no sense to say that they were weakened by playing a harder series

                                                      some of the best athletes in the world are mentally or physically drained 2 weeks later because of playing a couple harder minutes?

                                                      ridiculous

                                                      even if these guys drank a bottle of vodka and got another one smashed over their head, 2 days later they would be back to 100%
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                                                      • blap10
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 06-28-16
                                                        • 426

                                                        #28
                                                        Oh the excuses
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                                                        • Bill Dozer
                                                          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                          • 07-12-05
                                                          • 10894

                                                          #29
                                                          Toronto was a tier 3 team in regular season and on paper. Toronto played tanking teams at end of season and won maybe 8 straight.

                                                          GSW & Spurs tier 1. OKC & Cavs & Clippers tier 2. Blazers & Raptors tier 3. In a series tier 3 teams get exploited. (GSW whooped Blazers w/o Curry)

                                                          The point is GSW sweeps Raptors.... without debate. Instead injured GSW plays OKC in 7 and wins 3 days less rest vs Cavs. Thats huge. But yea Champions overcome blah blah blah.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388189

                                                            #30
                                                            The bottom line Cleveland winning was an absolute miracle and will never happen again
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                                                            • BigDofBA
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-30-09
                                                              • 19311

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Ratzz
                                                              lol.. what a stupid thread.

                                                              Lebron and Heat smoked OKC in 5 Games when they HAD HARDEN...

                                                              wtf are you talking about, Lebron is 18-5 vs. DURANT

                                                              beat OKC twice this season

                                                              http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...ost-every-time
                                                              I would have said Cavs in 7.

                                                              OKC is a lot different now than they were against Miami.

                                                              Adams, Kanter, Waiters > Harden and Perkins

                                                              Harden played no defense and Perkins played no offense.
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