CK/wangichu's Think Tank

suckatmyjob · 05-20-09, 02:28 PM

lost laker won under

Tonight score has maybe 100 to 84 hehe

suckatmyjob · 05-20-09, 02:30 PM

100 to 84 seems more like it

SmackdownV · 05-20-09, 02:31 PM

Yep...Pirates over 9 is what I got it at.......

Combined games between the two pitchers this year is 4-2 on the over......Plus...both are lefties....

I like it at 9.5 as well.

cs11787 · 05-20-09, 02:46 PM

Man Texas Rangers is a "B" play tonight so theres no way Im playing Detroit. I will double up on my money tonight or next game on Texas. But this is the NBA thread so lets talk NBA! Lol.

kmarinouofm · 05-20-09, 02:52 PM

booked two team teaser.. cavs -4.5 over 180.5

also took a shot at cavs -8.5 over 184.5

lets get it!!

BigMoneyMan · 05-20-09, 03:50 PM

DON"T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU HOMES

OK first I want to appologize for the totally rookie mistake of chasing my first half bet. In addition I need to read my own ****ing rundown and play as such. I have gone against it twice and got burned twice. I said to take the Lakers juice and make the money not lay it. I also said tat Denver was the team to beat on the west and they are. Denver WILL win this series and I am going to take the points in LA and lay them in Denver within reason. As far as the Cavs/Magic series I am going to kill it in this one also. I am taking all the point I can get in Cleveland and probably the same with the Cavs in Orlando unless they are giving them to Orlando or less than 4. Orlando will cover both games in Ceveland and win one of the first two. Orlando is 2-1 against them, won by 11 and 30 at home and lost by four in Cleveland and your giving them 9 points? **** that here comes another Houston play both times. ORL +10 and ML

FYI Cavs fans

Magic are 5-0 ATS in the last 5 meetings in Cleveland.
Magic are 10-1 ATS in the last 11 meetings.
Under is 4-1 in the last 5 meetings.
Under is 4-1 in the last 5 meetings in Cleveland.
Underdog is 8-3 ATS in the last 11 meetings.

sweetjones55 · 05-20-09, 04:09 PM

Big Money Man, what happens in the regular season does not exactly translate with what happens in the playoffs. Not one of those stats you put up there has anything to do with playoff games, all numbers from the regular season.

The Lakers owned the Rockets 4-0 in the regular season and barely beat them without Yao Ming.

The Cavs lost to the Hawks once, beat them by 6 once, beat them by one in another game and lost by 14. Three very close games (with the Hawks actually winning one) out of four. If you look at this you take the Hawks all day with the points in the playoffs. You got smoked if this was your thought process.

Here are stats that I think matter a little bit more. The Cavs are 8-0 ATS in the playoffs. The magic are 6-5 ATS so far. The Cavs have had a lot more rest and preparation for this game than the Magic have. The Magic are just happy to beat the Celtics in the Garden. They won't be ready for the King and Co in the Q.

Did I mention that the Cavaliers have the best basketball player in the world (Averaging 40 points 12 assists and 9 rebounds per 48 minutes in the playoffs

)? I would challenge someone to tell me the last player to accumulate a playoff stat line like that in the history of the NBA (Oscar Robertson never did it so don't bother looking him up, neither did Jordan).

swilldoggy420 · 05-20-09, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by sweetjones55

What happens in the regular season does not exactly translate with what happens in the playoffs.

The Lakers owned the Rockets 4-0 in the regular season and barely beat them without Yao Ming.

The Cavs lost to the Hawks once, beat them by 6 once, beat them by one in another game and lost by 14. Three very close games (with the Hawks actually winning one) out of four. If you look at this you take the Hawks all day with the points in the playoffs. You got smoked if this was your thought process.

Here are stats that I think matter a little bit more. The Cavs are 8-0 ATS in the playoffs. The magic are 6-5 ATS so far. The Cavs have had a lot more rest and preparation for this game than the Magic have. The Magic are just happy to beat the Celtics in the Garden. They won't be ready for the King and Co in the Q.

True Dat, bro!!

BOL!

kmarinouofm · 05-20-09, 04:18 PM

sweet jones.. you are right on the money homie.. not one of those ats trends has a playoff filter or the fact magic are going from a road 7 to a road game 1..

Ohio will be the loudest state in the Union tonight... probably one of the most important games in Cavs history...

Originally posted by sweetjones55

Big Money Man, what happens in the regular season does not exactly translate with what happens in the playoffs. Not one of those stats you put up there has anything to do with playoff games, all numbers from the regular season.

The Lakers owned the Rockets 4-0 in the regular season and barely beat them without Yao Ming.

The Cavs lost to the Hawks once, beat them by 6 once, beat them by one in another game and lost by 14. Three very close games (with the Hawks actually winning one) out of four. If you look at this you take the Hawks all day with the points in the playoffs. You got smoked if this was your thought process.

Here are stats that I think matter a little bit more. The Cavs are 8-0 ATS in the playoffs. The magic are 6-5 ATS so far. The Cavs have had a lot more rest and preparation for this game than the Magic have. The Magic are just happy to beat the Celtics in the Garden. They won't be ready for the King and Co in the Q.

swilldoggy420 · 05-20-09, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by kmarinouofm

sweet jones.. you are right on the money homie.. not one of those ats trends has a playoff filter or the fact magic are going from a road 7 to a road game 1..

Ohio will be the loudest state in the Union tonight... probably one of the most important games in Cavs history...

Ya HEARD!!

kmarinouofm · 05-20-09, 04:50 PM

And don't say we didn't warn you homes.. this little tibit from my boy jgbgsox

CLEVELAND is 9-1 ATS (+7.9 Units) in a home game where where the total is between 180 and 184.5 points this season let's hope this goes to 10-1 after tonight

CLEVELAND is 31-16 ATS (+13.4 Units) after a win by 10 points or more this season.CLEVELAND is 24-15 ATS (+7.5 Units) when playing against a team with a winning record this season.

Originally posted by BigMoneyMan

DON"T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU HOMES

OK first I want to appologize for the totally rookie mistake of chasing my first half bet. In addition I need to read my own ****ing rundown and play as such. I have gone against it twice and got burned twice. I said to take the Lakers juice and make the money not lay it. I also said tat Denver was the team to beat on the west and they are. Denver WILL win this series and I am going to take the points in LA and lay them in Denver within reason. As far as the Cavs/Magic series I am going to kill it in this one also. I am taking all the point I can get in Cleveland and probably the same with the Cavs in Orlando unless they are giving them to Orlando or less than 4. Orlando will cover both games in Ceveland and win one of the first two. Orlando is 2-1 against them, won by 11 and 30 at home and lost by four in Cleveland and your giving them 9 points? **** that here comes another Houston play both times. ORL +10 and ML

FYI Cavs fans

Magic are 5-0 ATS in the last 5 meetings in Cleveland.
Magic are 10-1 ATS in the last 11 meetings.
Under is 4-1 in the last 5 meetings.
Under is 4-1 in the last 5 meetings in Cleveland.
Underdog is 8-3 ATS in the last 11 meetings.

kotzwell88 · 05-20-09, 05:00 PM

I jumped in too early and bought it down to cavs -7.5 @ -140

kotzwell88 · 05-20-09, 05:01 PM

shoulda waited...

SexyMit · 05-20-09, 05:02 PM

I would lean Cleveland in this game! I however do not like laying that many points anytime any sport, so I wll just watch! I am leaning the over in the game but not to sure if I will do that either. I had Denver last night and probably just going to wait for something better this week! GL tonight everyone

hels · 05-20-09, 05:06 PM

Is anyone considering the fact that Orlando knows they don't have any pressure on them as they aren't expected to win? Even here, kmar(can't remember the whole thing.. haha) said it may be one of the most important games in cavs history... either agree or disagree with this, the cavs know there is pressure on them to perform.

The other aspect too, yes the cavs have dominated the postseason thus far. The playoffs are different from the regular season, no arguing that, but the players on each side are the exact same. This game seems to have 2 completing conflicting trains of thought... do you take the magic who have shown great ability to play with the cavs throughout the reg season? Or do you look at the playoff stats where the magic are squeaking by and the cavs are on the lightspeed express train?

I guess we shall see tonight.
My humble predictions are either the game will end within 3 points either way, or cavs by 20+.

and what is the response to these parlays?
Cavs-8.5 and O184
Magic+8.5 and U184

oBaMa_MaNiA · 05-20-09, 05:40 PM

I'm on the Cavs.

*8-0 ATS during playoffs this season.
*Teams playing another team coming off a seven game series are 3-0 ATS, this playoffs.
*other: Cavs are 70% (or 29-13) ATS when covering spreads greater than 8.5 this season.

Abrcrom12 · 05-20-09, 11:12 PM

UUUUUGGGGGHHHHH!!!!

Got greedy and got burned....

Movin on to tomorrow

Psylence · 05-20-09, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by SmackdownV

Lakerboy........

Final score tonight.......Cavs 107 Magic 88

Watch how close I come to that final score tonight.....you will be Amazed!

Amazing!!

sweetjones55 · 05-20-09, 11:21 PM

Nice call Big Money Man.

suicidekings · 05-20-09, 11:35 PM

Cleveland / Orlando Game 2: Cle -8.5, Total = 189

cs11787 · 05-21-09, 12:21 AM

Wheres CK been lately?

cocknocker · 05-21-09, 12:55 AM

Lakers-3 1st half Game 2 HEAVY

cs11787 · 05-21-09, 01:04 AM

The trends I gave for the Houston/Lakers series hit 100%. Those trends were when Lakers suffer a SU loss to Houston, the following game they come back and score an average of +19 points per game, score 111 points per game, and outscored Houston by an average of 21 points. I believe the same will happen in the Denver/Lakers series. Lakers definately know how to react from a loss. Now although Game 1 wasnt a loss for the Lakers, it sure as hell was close and in all honestly they all probably thought they were going to lose that game after the 1st qtr. They will be more prepared for game 2. Take these trend as you will...
When Lakers suffer from a SU/ATS loss from Denver, the following game they outscored them by an average of 14 points. In Game 1 Denver shot particularly well going 48.6% from the field shooting 36-74. Lakers on the other hand shot 41.1% from the field attempting 16 more shots then Denver shooting 37-90. I expect more of these shots to fall for the Lakers tonight. I think Lakers will capitalize throughout this whole game, 1Q, 1H, full game. In their last 10 meetings (excluding game 1) lakers have won the 1Q by an average of 6.1 points. If you include Game 1 it would decrease to an average of 4.8.
Plays:
1Q LAL -1.5 (-115)
1H LAL -3
LAL -3.5 (2 point buy)

cs11787 · 05-21-09, 01:06 AM

Haha. Wow CK, you showed up just as I was writing that. Good to see were on the same page tonight. Lets gettem!

sweetjones55 · 05-21-09, 01:38 AM

LA had won 11 1st quarters in a row vs Denver and then lost to the nuggets in the 1st quarter last game. What are the chances after winning 11 straight to all of a sudden lose two straight? I'll take my chances with the 1st qtr lakers and 1st half lakers.

wangichu · 05-21-09, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by cocknocker

Lakers-3 1st half Game 2 HEAVY

i was definitely on the 1Q, but i think i will join you on the halftime too. They will come out a lot hotter and start this thing off right if nothing else.

LAL 1Q
LAL 1st half

isiah121 · 05-21-09, 06:11 PM

As of now, 54% bettors are on Nuggets while 46% are on the Lakers -5.5. The line haven't move all these time. From their playoff experience, when the Nuggets lost a game to the Hornets and Mavericks, they would come back strong the next game and blow out those teams. Would this repeat and ended up Nuggets beating the Lakers today? Or would it be like last playoff where Nuggets went 0-4 against Lakers?

Dexter · 05-21-09, 06:13 PM

nuggets +5.5 (3x)

shhhhh22 · 05-21-09, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

nuggets +5.5 (3x)

I like it... BOL!

Vreston · 05-21-09, 07:06 PM

CK are you going with Cleveland -whatever in game 2?
I think I am. Cleveland is not going down 2 straight imo.
Right now I see it at Cleveland -9.

SmackdownV · 05-21-09, 07:10 PM

Two game superfantastic parlay....

NUGGETS ML
NUGGETS OVER 212 3 UNITS

As the Flav would say........Yeah Boooooyyyyyyyyyyyyy

chipper13101 · 05-21-09, 07:30 PM

Some interesting concensus info (from about 30 minutes ago) before the big game from Sports Insights. Sports Insights takes betting info from 5 sportsbooks, Pinnacle, CRIS, Skybook, BetUS and WSEX.

Total bets: 19,407
% Spread Nuggets: 58
% Spread Lakers : 42
% ML Nuggets: 83
% ML Lakers: 17.

Hmmmmm. BOL tonite boys.

kmarinouofm · 05-21-09, 07:42 PM

hmm and no line movement... gotta love the lakers!!!

Originally posted by chipper13101

Some interesting concensus info (from about 30 minutes ago) before the big game from Sports Insights. Sports Insights takes betting info from 5 sportsbooks, Pinnacle, CRIS, Skybook, BetUS and WSEX.

Total bets: 19,407
% Spread Nuggets: 58
% Spread Lakers : 42
% ML Nuggets: 83
% ML Lakers: 17.

Hmmmmm. BOL tonite boys.

JustFlipACoin · 05-21-09, 07:53 PM

lakers, lakers under for me. BOL

cockblocker · 05-21-09, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by isiah121

As of now, 54% bettors are on Nuggets while 46% are on the Lakers -5.5. The line haven't move all these time. From their playoff experience, when the Nuggets lost a game to the Hornets and Mavericks, they would come back strong the next game and blow out those teams. Would this repeat and ended up Nuggets beating the Lakers today? Or would it be like last playoff where Nuggets went 0-4 against Lakers?

That does'nt mean anything. The line is set perfectly for even action.