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  • Jayvegas420
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 03-09-11
    • 28213

    #421
    I can't believe I'm gonna be cheering for 'Cuse.
    This is gonna be great.

    I want to see Buddy dismantle that crazy Syracuse zone.

    GL

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    • Grivas_Digeni
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-08-15
      • 5307

      #422
      Originally posted by POOLSIDE
      Totally fair point. Cuse does give up a lot of offensive rebounds due to the zone. Boeheim has a week to tweak his zone specifically for the Tar Heels. If Syracuse can limit these, and manage to get the majority of the 50/50 plays to go in their favor, I really like their chances on the moneyline.
      I keep hearing about how many 'great bigs' UNC has. Is their size advantage really significant?

      Assuming 'depth issue' becomes overwhelming - which I don't think it will - and both teams shoot under 25% on jump shots (see NCAA Championship game 2011 which was played in this same gym)... would you be worried about UNC size advantage playing a key role in completely shutting down any scoring Syracuse was planning to do? I understand that in a home game Syracuse would mostly score over the top of UNC defenders, but what if that's not an option? Isn't there a decent chance this game ends up 75-59 with UNC out rebounding them badly?

      I keep hearing about how good Syracuse is at pressing the ball. Who has better roster to combat selective press by Syracuse - Virginia or North Carolina?

      Once Syracuse falls behind (and even your bandwagon members should agree there's a high chance of that happening) and the decision is made to press the ball handlers, how do you see UNC handling it, better or worse than Virginia did last game? It was quite clear the Cavaliers were not prepared. But I'm not sure anything can prepare you to have to play a different game, or handle the ball better/make crispier passes all around the court.
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      • iloseagain
        Restricted User
        • 06-29-10
        • 10682

        #423
        Originally posted by Grivas_Digeni
        I keep hearing about how many 'great bigs' UNC has. Is their size advantage really significant?

        Assuming 'depth issue' becomes overwhelming - which I don't think it will - and both teams shoot under 25% on jump shots (see NCAA Championship game 2011 which was played in this same gym)... would you be worried about UNC size advantage playing a key role in completely shutting down any scoring Syracuse was planning to do? I understand that in a home game Syracuse would mostly score over the top of UNC defenders, but what if that's not an option? Isn't there a decent chance this game ends up 75-59 with UNC out rebounding them badly?

        I keep hearing about how good Syracuse is at pressing the ball. Who has better roster to combat selective press by Syracuse - Virginia or North Carolina?

        Once Syracuse falls behind (and even your bandwagon members should agree there's a high chance of that happening) and the decision is made to press the ball handlers, how do you see UNC handling it, better or worse than Virginia did last game? It was quite clear the Cavaliers were not prepared. But I'm not sure anything can prepare you to have to play a different game, or handle the ball better/make crispier passes all around the court.
        so who covers? UNC or Cuse?
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        • POOLSIDE
          SBR MVP
          • 09-06-14
          • 2839

          #424
          Originally posted by Grivas_Digeni
          I keep hearing about how many 'great bigs' UNC has. Is their size advantage really significant?

          Assuming 'depth issue' becomes overwhelming - which I don't think it will - and both teams shoot under 25% on jump shots (see NCAA Championship game 2011 which was played in this same gym)... would you be worried about UNC size advantage playing a key role in completely shutting down any scoring Syracuse was planning to do? I understand that in a home game Syracuse would mostly score over the top of UNC defenders, but what if that's not an option? Isn't there a decent chance this game ends up 75-59 with UNC out rebounding them badly?

          I keep hearing about how good Syracuse is at pressing the ball. Who has better roster to combat selective press by Syracuse - Virginia or North Carolina?

          Once Syracuse falls behind (and even your bandwagon members should agree there's a high chance of that happening) and the decision is made to press the ball handlers, how do you see UNC handling it, better or worse than Virginia did last game? It was quite clear the Cavaliers were not prepared. But I'm not sure anything can prepare you to have to play a different game, or handle the ball better/make crispier passes all around the court.
          I can see Syracuse losing this game by thirty. I can also see them winning by double digits. I'll try to address everything you mentioned. I want to be clear that I'm basically playing devil's advocate with my following reply. I'm making the case for Syracuse. I can also make the case against Syracuse. If I was unable to make a case against Syracuse, I wouldn't be betting the game. We know by now how those games end up lol.

          Size advantage. Unc is bigger in the middle and smaller on the outside. Syracuse doesn't have a player under 6'4", but they also don't have a player over 6'9". Gonzaga's best two players are 6'11" and 6'10". It's not like the Cuse has never seen tall guys before. That's the thing about the zone. It either works or it doesn't. If unc is gonna shoot their way out of it, hats off to them. But it's pretty much agreed upon at this point that the way to beat that zone is to get the ball inside and create space on the outside. If unc's bigs are gonna get the ball down low (which alone is more difficult than against man to man) and create their own shots without kicking the ball outside and they consistently score like that... again, bravo. Totally a possibility.

          If Syracuse shoots 25% on jump shots, they've got a problem. I don't even care what unc is shooting at that point, Syracuse has a problem. With that said, Syracuse is very athletic and very talented. I'm not saying they'll consistently score at the rack, but it would not shock me. They have a couple guys that can create their own shot in traffic, and if the Tar Heels collapse on them, they've got guys who can knock down jump shots. They're also able to get to the line, which could be a huge factor in this game. I'll be honest, I'd be a lot more worried about a poor shooting performance as a Tar Heel backer than as a Syracuse backer.

          North Carolina might be the single most equipped team to handle the press. Boeheim will know this. Do not expect to see the same press (which was insanely ballsy if you didn't watch the game) they used against Virginia. They'll have to alter it somewhat. To answer your question about unc handling the press better or worse than Virginia, I will lightheartedly ask you if that was a joke question. How could they possibly handle it worse?
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          • thedirk
            SBR Rookie
            • 01-22-16
            • 14

            #425
            Good luck POOLSIDE! Whether it wins or it loses, keep sharing your thoughts and plays, love your insights.
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            • POOLSIDE
              SBR MVP
              • 09-06-14
              • 2839

              #426
              Originally posted by thedirk
              Good luck POOLSIDE! Whether it wins or it loses, keep sharing your thoughts and plays, love your insights.
              Appreciated! Great choice of name/pic!
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              • Grivas_Digeni
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-08-15
                • 5307

                #427
                Much appreciated! I understand the tension my questions/opinion probably created after you've made your pick - and some people probably tailed. I'm pretty sure anyone who hasn't tailed yet, should be inclined even more to do that now. Again, thank you.


                ----------
                The question - of course - was as if we were to handicap two different games:
                A) Virginia vs Syracuse (with that lead, Virginia would be better off fielding 5 guards after HT; anything would work better!)
                B) UNC vs Syracuse

                If I understand correctly, the answer I was looking for is this:
                North Carolina might be the single most equipped team to handle the press.
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                • POOLSIDE
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-06-14
                  • 2839

                  #428
                  Originally posted by Grivas_Digeni
                  Much appreciated! I understand the tension my questions/opinion probably created after you've made your pick - and some people probably tailed. I'm pretty sure anyone who hasn't tailed yet, should be inclined even more to do that now. Again, thank you.


                  ----------
                  The question - of course - was as if we were to handicap two different games:
                  A) Virginia vs Syracuse (with that lead, Virginia would be better off fielding 5 guards after HT; anything would work better!)
                  B) UNC vs Syracuse

                  If I understand correctly, the answer I was looking for is this:
                  North Carolina might be the single most equipped team to handle the press.
                  No tension at all! I like talking about sports. Besides, the bets are already in. Nothing we say can change that now lolol.

                  But yes, if North Carolina is up fourteen points with nine minutes left, Syracuse probably isn't winning the game. However, covering +9.5 at this point isn't hopeless by any stretch of the imagination.
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                  • Grivas_Digeni
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-08-15
                    • 5307

                    #429
                    Sent you 10 points.

                    As in, PLUS TEN.
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                    • POOLSIDE
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-06-14
                      • 2839

                      #430

                      Bet #10

                      Syracuse Orange +9.5 (-105)
                      $2000 to win $1904.76

                      Syracuse Orange +10 (-105)
                      $2000 to win $1904.76





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                      • POOLSIDE
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-06-14
                        • 2839

                        #431
                        Line changed at Heritage. Was able to get another bet in.
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                        • Conqueror
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-08-13
                          • 16777

                          #432
                          Rooting for ya!
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                          • pacman100
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 03-05-16
                            • 62

                            #433
                            I'm taking UNC to win by 6-10 for +325 odds. Good luck to all
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                            • newjack
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-19-12
                              • 363

                              #434
                              Good luck mate guys, hopefully we TID!
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                              • The Giant
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-21-12
                                • 21480

                                #435
                                Amazing thread.

                                Great run.

                                Good luck tonight.
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                                • POOLSIDE
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-06-14
                                  • 2839

                                  #436
                                  Originally posted by The Giant
                                  Amazing thread.

                                  Great run.

                                  Good luck tonight.
                                  Thanks! And welcome back!
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                                  • mikeak
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 01-02-16
                                    • 305

                                    #437
                                    Originally posted by POOLSIDE

                                    Bet #10

                                    Syracuse Orange +9.5 (-105)
                                    $2000 to win $1904.76

                                    Syracuse Orange +10 (-105)
                                    $2000 to win $1904.76




                                    Good luck dude! Rooting for you with heart and wallet
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                                    • WildCelticsFan
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-19-14
                                      • 5420

                                      #438
                                      I'm on you with this! But only like betting 12% of what you are. BOL man. Hope we hit it! This team so hot how could you not bet them.
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                                      • SpreadSniper
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-17-09
                                        • 6125

                                        #439
                                        APR 2 7:35 PM Basketball - Pending 402.50 to win 350.00
                                        1. Basketball - North Carolina - spread -9½ (-115)
                                        for the entire game held on Apr 02 at 7:45pm [Pending]

                                        hedge time for me...... I know this won't make sense, but LET'S GO CUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                        • captrobey
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 09-02-10
                                          • 34353

                                          #440
                                          2 of their last 13 unreal
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                                          • MexicanStallion
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-08-08
                                            • 20429

                                            #441
                                            So what's the feeling on the first half?
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                                            • POOLSIDE
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-06-14
                                              • 2839

                                              #442
                                              Originally posted by MexicanStallion
                                              So what's the feeling on the first half?
                                              Syracuse is 3/10 from the free throw line ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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                                              • newjack
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 12-19-12
                                                • 363

                                                #443
                                                Is it worth taking +13,5 on sy since i missed the bet before? I guess according to the bet it is but given the game flow and all
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                                                • POOLSIDE
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-06-14
                                                  • 2839

                                                  #444
                                                  Originally posted by newjack
                                                  Is it worth taking +13,5 on sy since i missed the bet before? I guess according to the bet it is but given the game flow and all
                                                  Tough to say. Syracuse has to be more aggressive on offense, and they've gotta make their free throws.
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                                                  • The Giant
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-21-12
                                                    • 21480

                                                    #445
                                                    Originally posted by newjack
                                                    Is it worth taking +13,5 on sy since i missed the bet before? I guess according to the bet it is but given the game flow and all
                                                    Looks like you can get +14.5. The second half line appears to me +3.5.

                                                    I'm worried they might get blown out, it's tough to say. Hopefully they have some magic left in them from the Virginia game.
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                                                    • frugalgambler
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-30-13
                                                      • 3418

                                                      #446
                                                      Bah. Not a cool 1H by 'cuse. The mojo might be running out.
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                                                      • Slipknot26
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-17-15
                                                        • 5046

                                                        #447
                                                        Cuse has won and made their name in the 2nd half.
                                                        Let it play out fellas
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                                                        • drfunkmaster
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-29-08
                                                          • 11162

                                                          #448
                                                          Cuse needs to make their FT... but I think they they are done running on fumes..
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                                                          • Slipknot26
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-17-15
                                                            • 5046

                                                            #449
                                                            We said that the last 2 as well haha
                                                            No way anyone on the planet thought they would come back , down 15 with 9 to go vs the #2 defense in the country either.
                                                            Boeheim, halftime adjustments, he's pretty good at it .
                                                            Let's go Cuse , get the MOJO going guys.
                                                            Let's see how it plays out
                                                            Hell, we just need under 9 anyway not a Win .
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                                                            • captrobey
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 09-02-10
                                                              • 34353

                                                              #450
                                                              Gbiniji keeps penetrating slipping that is like the 3rd time he did that .
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                                                              • TheChamp1
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-20-15
                                                                • 811

                                                                #451
                                                                The infamous Syracuse zone is getting dominated
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                                                                • WalkingLuckCharm
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 06-07-10
                                                                  • 4192

                                                                  #452
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                                                                  • POOLSIDE
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-06-14
                                                                    • 2839

                                                                    #453
                                                                    We need a run here. Have to have it.
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                                                                    • MexicanStallion
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-08-08
                                                                      • 20429

                                                                      #454
                                                                      Last 5 minutes to make something happen.

                                                                      *Missed 3 shots promptly
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                                                                      • The Giant
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-21-12
                                                                        • 21480

                                                                        #455
                                                                        I've never seen a game when the referees don't make any calls, on either team, ever.
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