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  • UrQuan
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-04-10
    • 5

    #1
    2013 eSports - Starcraft 2
    2013 WCS Season 2



    I'm usually big on tailing guys coming off a loss in eSports. Even on pinny the lines move a lot with public money, so a lot of short term trends are overvalued, and heavy favorites are pounded hard.

    So why do I like M C at -231, against all odds?, the line being almost 100 cents worse than at their last encounter a few weeks ago, with very similar conditions. In fact, the match should be even closer, Welmu maybe having learned something from being lit up so badly with a quick 0-3.

    M C is the most successful player of all time in StarCraft, leading the total earnings list at $384,000, and having several major tournament wins under his belt, including 2 GSLs in 2011. So, let's look at this match being played a year ago... I would not be surprised to see M C at literally -1000. Now, has Welmu improved since then. Sure, let's say. Is M C as competitive on the top level as he was then? No. The level of competition and the talent pool in the scene has improved tremendously. But did M C fall off, is he slumping?

    Absolutely not. Against almost any random foreigner, he will still be as dominant as ever. He did drop a series against Bischu at Assembly, and to VortiX in WCS Ro16 (granted, VortiX is one of the best foreigners). So of course, even in this best-of-5, Welmu is a live underdog. Even in HotS, long removed from the dark ages of PvP, it's still a fickle match-up, and M C has long since lost the "PvP-specialist" moniker. If Welmu comes in kicking and screaming, cheesing brutally every game, that's his way to victory.

    He won't. StarCraft players are notoriously inept at risk management, not wanting (or knowing how) to alter their strategies and builds based on being the underdog. Grubby may be the biggest perpetrator of this, having publicly stated how he does not like to all-in, even with his more build-order centered race Protoss. Funny enough I almost like Grubby against Bomber at +384. But again, Grubby will not make the best out of that situation.

    I have M C at -194 and -185. But still I like it at the current price and predict it will drop further before the game starts. And funny enough M C is the public bet also. I also have Taeja at +149.

    MMA at -124 is tempting. Normally I would be crazy about getting a Korean at that price against a foreigner. Also I think MMA is severely underrated at the moment, having not been in the spotlight for a long time. Those who saw his series against Happy might have caught on to this though. But otherwise Scarlett might be a big public play here. The only problem is Scarlett is good, really good. I will look closely at line movement for this game nearing game time.



    M C -231 4.6u to win 2u
    Last edited by UrQuan; 08-20-13, 12:37 AM. Reason: "Em-cee" is censured for some reason lol
  • Dr.Gonzo
    SBR MVP
    • 12-05-09
    • 4660

    #2
    Interesting thread, I used to follow the scene when they were playing the first Starcraft.
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    • UrQuan
      SBR Rookie
      • 07-04-10
      • 5

      #3
      Originally posted by UrQuan
      M C -231 4.6u to win 2u
      Had to sweat this one a little bit, but Welmu being out of his league was of no surprise. Funny enough i didn't realise this was a best-of-3. I had checked liquipedia for this but turns out the best-of-5s only start at the quarter finals. Makes you realise how bad the line really was last time at -145 (!)

      Taeja closed at over +180 against Innovation, which was just a ridiculous steal. I thought for sure I had missed some information when I saw the line movement before start. But looking at the games I think no one could argue that the line shouldn't have been extremely close to 50/50, even with Taeja in a recent interview mentioning being out of practice, and not feeling comfortable with his TvT at the moment. Innovation is good but there is only so much you can do in a game of StarCraft against one of the (other) best players in the world. Hellbats made this a little bit too close but it ended up cashing, after a game 3 which incidentally is a contender for game of the year.

      Didn't have time to post any more plays or thoughts before the games, but I was also very happy about Jeadong at +173. Didn't beat the closer on this one either but it was a suprisingly easy 2-0. I didn't buy into the "JvP" circle-jerk at all. At the end of the day Jaedong is one of the best Zerg players in the world and even though both his ZvZ and PvZ records are subject to running jokes they are inflated for the current metagame and for his current skill.

      I was extremely close to betting on First at +187 over Polt, but was scared to pull the trigger, predicting that the line would move further towards Polt before start, but when I woke up a few hours before the games started First had been completely hammered down all the way to +124. Suddenly I liked Polt at -150 though, which ended up losing.

      I do like Polt at -130 though for the rematch tomorrow. Also, in some twisted squares or bookmakers mind it made sense for the line to move to +102 at one point, but it very quickly dropped down again.


      I also had this for today:

      Duckdeok vs Naniwa (+126) for Match which lost.
      Bomber (-1.5) (-125) vs Grubby for Match which won.
      Rain (-255) vs Welmu for Match which won.
      Polt
      (-415) vs Grubby for Match which won.
      Polt
      (-1.5) (-112) vs Grubby for Match which won.
      Bomber vs First (+147) for Match which lost.
      MMA vs Scarlett (+116) for Match which won.
      Innovation vs Naniwa (+1.5) (+128) for Match which won.
      Maru (-140) vs MMA for Match which won.


      I'm trying to be extremely conservative with the plays I officially track in this thread, so I might not post any plays for tomorrow, but my leans at the moment are Polt -130, Naniwa +156 and Scarlett +205.
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      • Domestic
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-10-09
        • 6323

        #4
        Any GSTL plays mate? I like Acer tonight @ $1.50.
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        • UrQuan
          SBR Rookie
          • 07-04-10
          • 5

          #5
          Originally posted by Domestic
          Any GSTL plays mate? I like Acer tonight @ $1.50.
          Team-leagues are not really my area of expertise, but glad you got the easy 4-0!
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          • UrQuan
            SBR Rookie
            • 07-04-10
            • 5

            #6
            Dreamhack Bucharest



            Missed the opening lines by quite a bit today, but have a few plays for day 1 still. Will especially be looking at lines released during the event tomorrow (Group Stage 2 pairings)



            Elfi vs NIGHTEND for Match. +167
            1u to win 1.67u

            MMA vs Snute for Match. +208
            1u to win 2.08u

            Oz vs HuK for Match. +185
            1u to win 1.85u

            StarDust vs Nerchio for Match. +155
            1u to win 1.55u

            Innovation vs Crank (+1.5)for Match. +125
            1u to win 1.25u

            Taeja (-1.5) vs Welmu for Match. -110
            1.1u to win 1u
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            • UrQuan
              SBR Rookie
              • 07-04-10
              • 5

              #7
              Innovation vs Taeja for Match. -104
              1.04u to win 1u

              StarDust vs Elfi for Match. -205
              4.1u to win 2u



              Also had this for Day 1 Group Stage 3 but didn't get them posted here:

              Taeja (-1.5) vs Grubby for Match. -108

              FlaSh vs MMA for Match. +169
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              • Domestic
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-10-09
                • 6323

                #8
                Nice hit on MMA, wonder what is wrong with Flash at the moment.
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