Horse Racing questions and answers

[str]

Thanks, str.

I know it’s gotten better. I always like things to keep improving. I hope Paco has learned,
but I have my doubts.

I agree. The old Paco would not listen. Hopefully he got his wake up call or he will regret it.

[str]

Speaking of Army Mules.... Saw a horse By Army Mule who is a Half brother to TimberLake,"Hymn of Heaven" ,

4 Workouts so far out at the farm.....

kind of flattering considering timberlake was by into mischief and a million plus earner (obviously this was before timberlake ran ) .. believe AM was a $7.5k fee then (20k now and 25k last year)

Very flattering . Let's keep an eye on this one.

[JBEX]

This is an example of a trainer that CAN read a condition book. A perfect spot IMO. Looks like a nice claim. Maybe a 1/2 brother or sister that can run some? I don't know. He certainly had a reason to decide to claim it first out. An excellent spot for the horse. Nice to see this after that wave of bad placement we dealt with over the weekend.
I am not sure how "A other than" races are written there but if this horse wins, there is a chance that it stays eligible for the "A other than" if this is considered a starter allowance. It would need to read non winners of a race other than maiden, claiming, or starter. That's how it was back in the day. Don't know about now and there.

This is how you are supposed to do this stuff if it is available JBEX. Love the placement.

looked through friday (maybe saturday) and they have one allowance that's an n2L and another that's an other than maiden,claiming or starter so she would have a spot in the latter if things go well..potentially nice claim as the alw purses there around $130k ..even 2nd a nice piece of change relative to the claim price and what they'd get if they win today's race



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[str]

Sweet voyage may still need easier.... no excuses that I could see...

I'm late here but I just saw the replay. It is difficult to see everything I had hoped to see as she was well wide and kind of covered up from my angle. What I did see is the rider kind of gathering her up around the 5/16ths pole and through the stretch. Like she was not comfortable, or he wasn't or something. I just do not have enough info but I do think the rider could provide feedback to help understand the trip. She was on her left lead all through the stretch and just seemed confused, or too busy thinking instead of running? It was definitely something Batt. IMO, it was just not outrun and needs cheaper. Something was off, or just not right, and she was preoccupied with that IMO. Rider feedback would help a lot maybe? Sometimes they are not sure either. Let's see what the trainer says but I am pretty sure there is more to it than outrun. Just my opinion though and with limited info.
Hope that helps.

[str]

I'm sorry for being stupid, but blame it on old age.

I use TVG and although I've seen FUTURES in the past I can't find them now. I was in for $10 on Owen Almighty. He owes me. LOL

Madison, I know you know this but I am getting older just like you. And I embrace stupid. LOL. We are allowed to be stupid. So many things have changed and continue to do so. We can't keep up and quite frankly, I don't want to keep up. I'm tired of having to learn how to dial a phone for the 6th time. Or buy a light bulb. Lumens! Really! I send my grandkids and they get what I need when it comes to that stuff.
You have to have a degree just to know what you are buying. I used to know, but now I have no clue. Screw it Madison, I refuse to care. I've learned the same stuff about something five times. Now it's different yet again. Fine. Be different.

You don't have to apologize to me. I'm so dumb, my kids always tell people that me using my iphone is like the Wright Brothers trying to fly a 747. LOLOL. They are right. I just laugh because I don't care. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. And find myself thankful for being allowed the time to be stupid. I , like you I'm sure, have many friends that never got the chance to do what we are doing. I feel I owe it to them to be as stupid as possible for as long as I can.

All the best Madison !

[str]

looked through friday (maybe saturday) and they have one allowance that's an n2L and another that's an other than maiden,claiming or starter so she would have a spot in the latter if things go well..potentially nice claim as the alw purses there around $130k ..even 2nd a nice piece of change relative to the claim price and what they'd get if they win today's race



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And THAT'S how trainers are judged in my book. Not by if they had a really nice horse. I so enjoy watching a guy like Thomas Amoss work. It's a real pleasure to see competence on display.

Thanks JBEX.

[JBEX]

And THAT'S how trainers are judged in my book. Not by if they had a really nice horse. I so enjoy watching a guy like Thomas Amoss work. It's a real pleasure to see competence on display.

Thanks JBEX.

no problem str

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by army mule ..fg R9 #3 mezcal mule (8-1) @5:45
expensive debut horse ridden by jose ortiz..can't look it over now but will later on

[batt33]

hey str

oaklawn R1 #1 golden Irish (8-5)
how do you think the connections of this horse feel losing her to the claim in her debut two back ? probably could've beaten msw with that effort ..interesting also it's between the best trainer and one of the other top trainers at the track ..i'll give a little slack for 2nd breaking from the rail in the mud in start 2 .. should be tough today but no secret to anyone ..I'd do a straight 194 triple which I think would return about $8 for a buck or invest 3 with a $2T 194 and $1T 149.. main thing here is the question and not the bet lol

perfect spot also being eligible off running for a tag in her debut

Races cancelled do to weather....

[batt33]

Gotcha, I was looking at the odds and the "all other 3 year olds" is still 5-1..... normally it gets hammered. I took a shot with Poster, sovereignty and gaming

""All others" drifted up to 6-1 and in the last half hour got bet down to 4-1... my plays

pool 1
American Promise	99-1
Chancer mcpatrick26-1
East avenue	15-1
gaming	38-1
poster	77-1
sandman	59-1
sovereignty	21-1

[batt33]

I'm late here but I just saw the replay. It is difficult to see everything I had hoped to see as she was well wide and kind of covered up from my angle. What I did see is the rider kind of gathering her up around the 5/16ths pole and through the stretch. Like she was not comfortable, or he wasn't or something. I just do not have enough info but I do think the rider could provide feedback to help understand the trip. She was on her left lead all through the stretch and just seemed confused, or too busy thinking instead of running? It was definitely something Batt. IMO, it was just not outrun and needs cheaper. Something was off, or just not right, and she was preoccupied with that IMO. Rider feedback would help a lot maybe? Sometimes they are not sure either. Let's see what the trainer says but I am pretty sure there is more to it than outrun. Just my opinion though and with limited info.
Hope that helps.

Thanks STR ! Here is the trainers comments

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/IMG5454_1737157867365/MP4/IMG5454_1737157867365.mp4

[JBEX]

Races cancelled do to weather....

thanks batt

[JBEX]

no problem str

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by army mule ..fg R9 #3 mezcal mule (8-1) @5:45
expensive debut horse ridden by jose ortiz..can't look it over now but will later on

have no trouble recommending her .. trainer hot,jose ortiz,solid works and AM is one of the better first out sires ..have a hunch this is going to be a good one irregardless whether she wins her debut





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[batt33]

have no trouble recommending her .. trainer hot,jose ortiz,solid works and AM is one of the better first out sires ..have a hunch this is going to be a good one irregardless whether she wins her debut






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Worth a look!..interesting to see the works next out after being scratched!

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Lukas on Caldera[/COLOR]

Check out this video of trainer D. Wayne Lukas giving his thoughts on Caldera’s maiden-breaking performance as well as a look ahead to what might be next. As you’ll hear, he did confirm that he plans to aim for a Derby points race next out. The aforementioned G2 Rebel on Feb. 22 is definitely the most logical option, so we’d expect that to be where Caldera ends up as of now.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/DWL_1737398594159/MP4/DWL_1737398594159.mp4

[JBEX]

Worth a look!..interesting to see the works next out after being scratched!

guess she was scratched from a kee race ?

[JBEX]

will mention liam's map's every once in a while when I see one's that look decent..this is one


santa anita
R8 #10 firenze flavor (5-1)
LM



I also like this one at a price..not a LM ..
#6 big leap (15-1)

race is at 6:36



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[batt33]

guess she was scratched from a kee race ?

and FG also

[batt33]

will mention liam's map's every once in a while when I see one's that look decent..this is one


santa anita
R8 #10 firenze flavor (5-1)
LM



I also like this one at a price..this ones not a LM ..
#6 big leap (15-1)

race is at 6:36



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Yeah I almost mentioned the 10 horse. Umberto jumps aboard.... first time lasix and a couple of decent workouts since she last raced.

[JBEX]

and FG also

where do you find that information?

[batt33]

where do you find that information?

In my Twinspires account... in the "express view" mode.
I click on the horse and it brings up a quick view.

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Breeze Report



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Your Eclipse Award finalist Straight No Chaser turned in a monster work at Santa Anita this morning, blazing through five furlongs in a bullet :59.20.(1/38) We caught his next furlong in :13 flat on the gallop out.
He remains his usual very sharp self and Dan and the rest of the team are extremely pleased with everything he’s showing us. He will have four more breezes before the Feb. 22 G2 Riyadh Dirt Sprint—three in California and one in Saudi Arabia once he arrives there. He is tentatively scheduled to ship on Feb. 11, but that exact date could change once we get closer.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/StraightNoChaser_1737400934659/MP4/StraightNoChaser_1737400934659.mp4

Boy he looks good!

[JBEX]

In my Twinspires account... in the "express view" mode.
I click on the horse and it brings up a quick view.

ok thanks ..don't use twinspires

[batt33]

Yeah I almost mentioned the 10 horse. Umberto jumps aboard.... first time lasix and a couple of decent workouts since she last raced.

Closed like a freight train... wow!

[str]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Breeze Report



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Your Eclipse Award finalist Straight No Chaser turned in a monster work at Santa Anita this morning, blazing through five furlongs in a bullet :59.20.(1/38) We caught his next furlong in :13 flat on the gallop out.
He remains his usual very sharp self and Dan and the rest of the team are extremely pleased with everything he’s showing us. He will have four more breezes before the Feb. 22 G2 Riyadh Dirt Sprint—three in California and one in Saudi Arabia once he arrives there. He is tentatively scheduled to ship on Feb. 11, but that exact date could change once we get closer.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/StraightNoChaser_1737400934659/MP4/StraightNoChaser_1737400934659.mp4

Boy he looks good!

It is fun to watch a good work horse do his thing. He picked it up on his own and galloped out nice and strong.

He looks great.

[str]

Thanks STR ! Here is the trainers comments

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...7157867365.mp4

I'm ok with that. I know he will watch her closely moving forward and the stretch out can't hurt at this point I don't think. Certainly worth a try.
Agree with the drop in class as well. When you have a race like that, the only good you can get out of it is to take advantage of the lesser effort. The ladder goes up and down so let's see what she looks like next out and compare the two efforts while keeping an eye on those little things we talked about like the leads, focus, etc.

[JBEX]

Closed like a freight train... wow!

yeah that was impressive..with giant's causeway on the bottom might be a marathon turf horse

[batt33]

It is fun to watch a good work horse do his thing. He picked it up on his own and galloped out nice and strong.

He looks great.

Yes it does! Hopefully he continues to do well!

[batt33]

yeah that was impressive..with giant's causeway on the bottom might be a marathon turf horse

I agree!

[Madison]

Need Help please

Please respond when time permits despite scratch. I just spent an hour doing all this to have him scratched.
All Pletcher?
GP R6 #8 ** 41K 6F Acclaimed Victor. OFF 325. Just came out of my stable. 2 Very impressive starts IMHO, but certainly green.

TB 1/26/24 R8 7F MSW #4 off at 1/2. Appears disinterested (in gate)/Green, left at gate pretty badly. Long steady drive to be 2nd.

GP 3/2/24 R2 #6 MSW 89K. Off 7/2 Absolutely LOADED field, Big City, Jefferson Street, Be You. Blocked stretch turn by Be You (How does the 2 not get taken down?) Nice recovery to be nipped for 2nd, catching Jefferson Street and Big City.


1) Why is this guy off 325?
2) Why does he show up in a 41K **?
3) Why wasn't Be You #2 disqualified GP R2 3/24?
4) Why Scratched??

Seems like an endless journey to understand horse racing.

[Madison]

Please respond when time permits despite scratch. I just spent an hour doing all this to have him scratched.
All Pletcher?
GP R6 #8 ** 41K 6F Acclaimed Victor. OFF 325. Just came out of my stable. 2 Very impressive starts IMHO, but certainly green.

TB 1/26/24 R8 7F MSW #4 off at 1/2. Appears disinterested (in gate)/Green, left at gate pretty badly. Long steady drive to be 2nd.

GP 3/2/24 R2 #6 MSW 89K. Off 7/2 Absolutely LOADED field, Big City, Jefferson Street, Be You. Blocked stretch turn by Be You (How does the 2 not get taken down?) Nice recovery to be nipped for 2nd, catching Jefferson Street and Big City.


1) Why is this guy off 325?
2) Why does he show up in a 41K **?
3) Why wasn't Be You #2 disqualified GP R2 3/24?
4) Why Scratched??

Seems like an endless journey to understand horse racing.

Claim him Batt for 35K. Obviously need info on injured? I'll take 10% LOL.

[JBEX]

by liam's map..gulfstream R4 #7 widerthanamile (15-1) @ 1:56..don't think he looks bad at a price

[str]

by liam's map..gulfstream R4 #7 widerthanamile (15-1) @ 1:56..don't think he looks bad at a price

I get the feeling that this horse could improve with lasix. Rider stays aboard which is a good thing. The Woodbine lay in probably real tough but won’t be surprised if this horse shows decent improvement today.

[JBEX]

I get the feeling that this horse could improve with lasix. Rider stays aboard which is a good thing. The Woodbine lay in probably real tough but won’t be surprised if this horse shows decent improvement today.

agree in wo layoff horse on the drop..to me a sensible one for her..still no route experience is a negative

I think this one's two tries @ 7.5f weren't bad factoring the trouble lines..dropping a bit from the level she ran those races (not her last)..both the other tries @ 7.5f were quick returns..gets 4 weeks this time..the lasix I didn't think about but good to know you feel it's a positive

[JBEX]

agree in wo layoff horse on the drop..to me a sensible one for her..still no route experience is a negative

I think this one's two tries @ 7.5f weren't bad factoring the trouble lines..dropping a bit from the level she ran those races (not her last)..both the other tries @ 7.5f were quick returns..gets 4 weeks this time..the lasix I didn't think about but good to know you feel it's a positive

capped this race for the turf and it was taken off and run on the poly so a lot of the argument I made didn't apply ..probably what str said with lasix and jock staying aboard played a bigger role

my casual observation is these two sires we follow can get runners on any surface or track condition..find some signs of life without things being too obvious and you can land a nice price like this one ... $52 to win

[batt33]

by liam's map..gulfstream R4 #7 widerthanamile (15-1) @ 1:56..don't think he looks bad at a price

Wow nice price! I was out all morning and missed this....