Horse Racing questions and answers

**str** · 12-21-24, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by JBEX

by army mule..saturday laurel R6 #10 discreet ops (3-1) @ 2:52

So cool to see this stuff. Only off the board once, going 5 1/2F and bumped and stumbled. Blood and guts horses JBEX.

And, it's old home week with little Benny Feliciano the trainer ( not little, his dad had the same name) and Chip Reed the owner. Benny galloped for me back in the day, and was really good at what he did. Very good clock in his head. So glad to see him successful as he got older. Not at all surprised.
And Chip Reid was a good friend. He worked at the old Capital Center with a high position in the 70's. He got us season tickets about 7 rows up just past the top of the key for the Bullets and any concert tickets we wanted. Bob Segar several times, the boss, Moddy Blues, Rod Stewart, man you name it. Even got us in to watch the PPV, a brand new concept back then, for the Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Roberto Duran fight. I remember I happened to have 5 horses in at Penn. Nat. that night and opted to go to the fight instead. Probably shouldn't have done that. Not real cool but I gave up a lot of things and decided I was not going to miss it. I send Linda Reantillo up to ride all 5 of them.(Other than a couple, that jock colony was a little shady when it came to shippers coming in from Md. to take their purses.) Had 2 winners and 3 seconds. Always thought afterwards , had I gone that results might have been 3 and 2 but that was just me second guessing myself for not going. Most times, I would go. Guess the youth came out in me that time. In hind sight, screw it, I'm glad I did.

Chip really took care of us. Such a good guy.

**JBEX** · 12-21-24, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by str

So cool to see this stuff. Only off the board once, going 5 1/2F and bumped and stumbled. Blood and guts horses JBEX.

And, it's old home week with little Benny Feliciano the trainer ( not little, his dad had the same name) and Chip Reed the owner. Benny galloped for me back in the day, and was really good at what he did. Very good clock in his head. So glad to see him successful as he got older. Not at all surprised.
And Chip Reid was a good friend. He worked at the old Capital Center with a high position in the 70's. He got us season tickets about 7 rows up just past the top of the key for the Bullets and any concert tickets we wanted. Bob Segar several times, the boss, Moddy Blues, Rod Stewart, man you name it. Even got us in to watch the PPV, a brand new concept back then, for the Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Roberto Duran fight. I remember I happened to have 5 horses in at Penn. Nat. that night and opted to go to the fight instead. Probably shouldn't have done that. Not real cool but I gave up a lot of things and decided I was not going to miss it. I send Linda Reantillo up to ride all 5 of them.(Other than a couple, that jock colony was a little shady when it came to shippers coming in from Md. to take their purses.) Had 2 winners and 3 seconds. Always thought afterwards , had I gone that results might have been 3 and 2 but that was just me second guessing myself for not going. Most times, I would go. Guess the youth came out in me that time. In hind sight, screw it, I'm glad I did.

Chip really took care of us. Such a good guy.

yeah she's a gamer
and thought there were some good excuses for subpar efforts..surface,bull ring,class amongst them ..10 post at a mile not easy and will have to get the distance for the first time
and she's not bred for it ..dam sire more speed..be rooting but not a good bet imo

cool with ties to the connections and both sound like good guys..some nice shows/sporting events you saw at the cap center and remember those big boxing pay per view events..leonard,duran,hagler,hearns..adm ittedly not the biggest boxing fan but those fights grabbed my interest..just a time when you had a lot of all time greats around the same division +/- few pounds to make weight

got great results at penn considering..had to be a nice diversion from the routine for you

**batt33** · 12-21-24, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Optional

They called it In Limbo

Had it's first barrier trial last week. Won it to qualify for a biggish race at the Brisbane Magic Million carnival next month.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First look at this Hellbent baby.<br><br>In Limbo (2f Hellbent x Limbo Down)<br>125k buy for <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/RidgmontFarm?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ridgm ontFarm</a> & <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/JamesBester4?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@James Bester4</a> from <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/FairhillFarmNsw?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Fa irhillFarmNsw</a> at <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/inglis_sales?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ingli s_sales</a> Aus Weanlings then $150k buy for <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/GRyanRacing?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GRyanR acing</a> at <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/mmsnippets?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mmsnipp ets</a> GC.<a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/yarramanpark?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@yarra manpark</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/JvmrlRUc36">pic.twitter.com/JvmrlRUc36</a></p>— Breednet (@BreednetNews) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/BreednetNews/status/1866347695528624515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nice Opti!

**batt33** · 12-21-24, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

by army mule..saturday laurel R6 #10 discreet ops (3-1) @ 2:52

Following...been away for a few days catching up!

**batt33** · 12-21-24, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by str

So cool to see this stuff. Only off the board once, going 5 1/2F and bumped and stumbled. Blood and guts horses JBEX.

And, it's old home week with little Benny Feliciano the trainer ( not little, his dad had the same name) and Chip Reed the owner. Benny galloped for me back in the day, and was really good at what he did. Very good clock in his head. So glad to see him successful as he got older. Not at all surprised.
And Chip Reid was a good friend. He worked at the old Capital Center with a high position in the 70's. He got us season tickets about 7 rows up just past the top of the key for the Bullets and any concert tickets we wanted. Bob Segar several times, the boss, Moddy Blues, Rod Stewart, man you name it. Even got us in to watch the PPV, a brand new concept back then, for the Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Roberto Duran fight. I remember I happened to have 5 horses in at Penn. Nat. that night and opted to go to the fight instead. Probably shouldn't have done that. Not real cool but I gave up a lot of things and decided I was not going to miss it. I send Linda Reantillo up to ride all 5 of them.(Other than a couple, that jock colony was a little shady when it came to shippers coming in from Md. to take their purses.) Had 2 winners and 3 seconds. Always thought afterwards , had I gone that results might have been 3 and 2 but that was just me second guessing myself for not going. Most times, I would go. Guess the youth came out in me that time. In hind sight, screw it, I'm glad I did.

Chip really took care of us. Such a good guy.

Always enjoy reading thoughts! and sharing your past! thanks STR!

**batt33** · 12-21-24, 02:15 PM

Some updates...[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Caldera Update[/COLOR]Caldera has exited last week's race in good order. He earned a 64 Beyer Speed Figure for the effort--almost identical to what he received for his debut. We probably would've expected more of an improvement in that regard, but young, lightly raced horses can often get faster in a hurry.
Trainer D. Wayne Lukas provided his post-race thoughts as well, which can be heard in the accompanying video clip and were very much in line with our own observations.
The current Oaklawn condition book only goes to Jan. 5, so we'll likely wait for the next book to come out before picking out a next target spot for Caldera.https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...4638217667.mp4

**batt33** · 12-21-24, 02:17 PM

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Sweet Voyage Breeze Report
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Sweet Voyage had her first breeze in Kentucky yesterday morning, covering five furlongs in 1:03.64 over the HighPointe main track.
Trainer Jeff Hiles’s feedback was, “You’ll never be able to tell by time on this track but she handled it well.”
As some of you may know, the speed of track surfaces at farms can vary greatly, and this was actually by far the fastest of three five-furlong breezes recorded at the distance yesterday, so the “slow” time is of no concern whatsoever.
Due to Sweet Voyage’s papers being transferred after the start of the Turfway Park meet, we will likely have to wait until 2025 to get her back in the entry box. A “date” is established at each track when a horse’s papers go on file and horses receive preference for admission into a race based on that date.https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...4803853905.mp4

**batt33** · 12-21-24, 02:18 PM

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Update
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Straight No Chaser is still doing great at Santa Anita Park. The plan is to get him back on the work tab next weekend to begin his preparation for the G2 Riyadh Dirt Sprint on February 22nd.https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...4643368287.mp4

**batt33** · 12-21-24, 02:18 PM

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Nakoma Breeze Report
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Nakoma turned in a very sharp second work at Gulfstream this morning, covering 3/8 in :35.84. As you’ll see, she did it well within herself and was traveling nicely. Note that at this still early stage in the breezing process that Jena sometimes spaces works out further than every seven days (in this case 10 days). Lots of trainers do that for earlier works and then move to a seven-day schedule as they pick up the intensity. So far, so good.https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...4545655611.mp4

**JBEX** · 12-21-24, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

thursday

by army mule..gulfstream R1 #1 grade a (12-1) @ 12:20

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Originally posted by JBEX

ran a solid 2nd @ 14-1..available on gulfstream replay show YT if you wanted to see it

if you missed it batt this was Thursday

**batt33** · 12-21-24, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

if you missed it batt this was Thursday

I did.... I was away from the computer thanks for the Intel!

**JBEX** · 12-21-24, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by batt33

I did.... I was away from the computer thanks for the Intel!

no problem

**JBEX** · 12-21-24, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

by army mule..saturday laurel R6 #10 discreet ops (3-1) @ 2:52

5th of 8..have a hunch she'll cut back in distance next out and be very sharp..will keep a casual eye out for her

**Optional** · 12-21-24, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by batt33

Nice Opti!

It is fun following along with my brothers horses. And a lot cheaper than owning myself

**str** · 12-22-24, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by Optional

It is fun following along with my brothers horses. And a lot cheaper than owning myself

Lol. So true .

**Optional** · 12-22-24, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by str

Lol. So true .

I thought after I said that, that he is making a profit on it so far. So I'm the one missing out!

Might think about getting in on a small share of one actually.

**str** · 12-22-24, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by Optional

I thought after I said that, that he is making a profit on it so far. So I'm the one missing out!

Might think about getting in on a small share of one actually.

Heck yes Opti !

Make it an amount that you would set aside for a fun long term thing. Nothing worse than putting up too much and feeling the squeeze.
But nothing better than putting up a very affordable amount that you can not have to count on but will keep your interest enough to really enjoy it.
Batt will tell you, I's not the amount you actually win, it's the win that ownership provides that takes you to great heights. You quickly learn to respect the game, the horse, and all that goes with the winning. It is not easy but ahh, the sweet smell of success. OMG.

Quick story, I had an agent that was selling a house we built and she found out that I was previously a horse trainer from another agent who knew me well from the track days. She asks me to bring in some pictures so she can look at them while she is sitting on our open house. I have a lot of pictures from then and I bring in two albums, so about maybe 100 win pictures. I show up half way through the open house and there are like 4 couples people there but they are all looking at the win pictures. ,Nobody is walking around the house. Lolol.
That is was horse racing does. Unbelievable ! Needless to say, that was the end of bringing in win pics to an open house.

If you do it, you will not regret it but I cannot stress enough that it has to be for a very nominal amount. It can never be about the investment. Entertainment money Opti. Keep it like that and you will get more than your monies worth down the road in all likelihood.
GL Opti.

**Optional** · 12-22-24, 09:18 AM

My parents owned a few "cheap" horses when I was a kid. Rooting home your own horse as the race winner sure is a memorable experience.

Have a few of those winner framed winner photos too from their days. Still love looking at them too.

**JBEX** · 12-22-24, 10:50 AM

going through fairgrounds saw a liam's map that I thought looked interesting ..since it's a price figure I'd give it a mention

R6 #5 map to the stars (10-1)
@ 4:15

**str** · 12-22-24, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

going through fairgrounds saw a liam's map that I thought looked interesting ..since it's a price figure I'd give it a mention

R6 #5 map to the stars (10-1)
@ 4:15

Not impossible. Solid race though.

FYI: The trainer Paul McGee is the brother of Marty McGee the writer for the DRF still ??, and others. He's been writing a long time now if he is still doing it. Maybe he retired.
Used to call Marty "World Be McGee" because like World Be Free, he never saw a 30 foot jumper he didn't like when we played basketball.
He was the tallest guy on our team and never got near the paint. Lolol.

**batt33** · 12-22-24, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Optional

It is fun following along with my brothers horses. And a lot cheaper than owning myself

I understand! One of the reasons I have horses with MRH! is It's not expensive.... I have a rooting interest and both my Elderly parents like to follow them!

**batt33** · 12-22-24, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

going through fairgrounds saw a liam's map that I thought looked interesting ..since it's a price figure I'd give it a mention

R6 #5 map to the stars (10-1)
@ 4:15

I'll watch!

**batt33** · 12-22-24, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

going through fairgrounds saw a liam's map that I thought looked interesting ..since it's a price figure I'd give it a mention

R6 #5 map to the stars (10-1)
@ 4:15

Hope you had a little on him! Nice ride by the jockey!

**batt33** · 12-22-24, 05:12 PM

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report
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Trainer Dan Blacker breezed Straight No Chaser this morning at Santa Anita Park, a week earlier than originally planned. Dan felt our BC Sprint Champ was itching to do something, so he let him go an easy three-eighths. Of course, an "easy" three-eighths for our son of Speightster was still on the quicker side and he was credited with a final time of :35.80.(2/25) Dan said, “He worked great and looked like his usual self.”

https://youtu.be/cnXgcNstjNE

Straight No Chaser should remain on a weekly work schedule from here on out.

He is looking good! Jockey looks like he is getting a workout trying to keep him under control!

**batt33** · 12-22-24, 05:13 PM

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Moonlit Courage Update[/COLOR]

Moonlit Courage continues to do well at Santa Anita Park as she has been building up her foundation. She is scheduled to have her first breeze tomorrow morning. She will only go 3/16 of a mile, which is typical of the Mandella barn for a 2-year-old's first breeze. We will not have anyone on site for tomorrow’s breeze, but will do our best to get a video, and we will follow up with an update if we do. Otherwise, our team will be back onsite next week and will report back after her next breeze.

**JBEX** · 12-22-24, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by batt33

Hope you had a little on him! Nice ride by the jockey!

no money but always like a winner in the forum when I didn't pick 7 other losers lol..only 1 other (loser) today

agree jock rode a very smart race..sat tight and didn't get involved in the duel when the 8 pulled up alongside the leader..turned out to be the right thing to do ..looks like he
should be fine going longer

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**JBEX** · 12-22-24, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

no money but always like a winner in the forum when I didn't pick 7 other losers lol..only 1 other (loser) today

agree jock rode a very smart race..sat tight and didn't get involved in the duel when the 8 pulled up alongside the leader..turned out to be the right thing to do ..looks like he
should be fine going longer

.

not needed

**str** · 12-23-24, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by batt33

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report
[/COLOR]
Trainer Dan Blacker breezed Straight No Chaser this morning at Santa Anita Park, a week earlier than originally planned. Dan felt our BC Sprint Champ was itching to do something, so he let him go an easy three-eighths. Of course, an "easy" three-eighths for our son of Speightster was still on the quicker side and he was credited with a final time of :35.80.(2/25) Dan said, “He worked great and looked like his usual self.”

https://youtu.be/cnXgcNstjNE

Straight No Chaser should remain on a weekly work schedule from here on out.

He is looking good! Jockey looks like he is getting a workout trying to keep him under control!

Yep. Happy horse there.

**str** · 12-23-24, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by batt33

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Moonlit Courage Update[/COLOR]

Moonlit Courage continues to do well at Santa Anita Park as she has been building up her foundation. She is scheduled to have her first breeze tomorrow morning. She will only go 3/16 of a mile, which is typical of the Mandella barn for a 2-year-old's first breeze. We will not have anyone on site for tomorrow’s breeze, but will do our best to get a video, and we will follow up with an update if we do. Otherwise, our team will be back onsite next week and will report back after her next breeze.

Nice to see a 3/16ths breeze. Don't see that much. Most trainers do a 1/4 pole home thing but I like the 3/16'ths better. What the heck, you make it up on the gallop out anyway.

**str** · 12-23-24, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by JBEX

no money but always like a winner in the forum when I didn't pick 7 other losers lol..only 1 other (loser) today

agree jock rode a very smart race..sat tight and didn't get involved in the duel when the 8 pulled up alongside the leader..turned out to be the right thing to do ..looks like he
should be fine going longer

.

Nice pick JBEX !

**JBEX** · 12-23-24, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by str

Nice pick JBEX !

thanks str

**JBEX** · 12-23-24, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by str

Nice pick JBEX !

the brad cox/godolphin homebred firster by uncle mo finished 3rd at even money ..realize it's easy to say after the fact but this was a 3yo ..not a good sign starting this late as we've discussed before although he was working consistently fast

**JBEX** · 12-23-24, 05:27 PM

hey str

considering a horse at tampa bay tomorrow coming off an exact 10 week layoff..he has two 4f works (his only ones) at a training center in exactly (to the fifth of a sec) the same time .. do you feel when this happens
that it shows some intention in the 2nd work to hit the time on the nose or it's just one of those things..maybe include a 3 tick range either way as also being meaningful ?

**str** · 12-24-24, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by JBEX

hey str

considering a horse at tampa bay tomorrow coming off an exact 10 week layoff..he has two 4f works (his only ones) at a training center in exactly (to the fifth of a sec) the same time .. do you feel when this happens
that it shows some intention in the 2nd work to hit the time on the nose or it's just one of those things..maybe include a 3 tick range either way as also being meaningful ?

Quick question JBEX.

What is AWK in the comment line? Awkward? Like in an awkward start?? Any idea?

**JBEX** · 12-24-24, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by str

Quick question JBEX.

What is AWK in the comment line? Awkward? Like in an awkward start?? Any idea?

guessing awkward..saw the head on and he bore out and was bounced around (at least how I'd describe it) quite a bit