Horse Racing questions and answers

[stevenash]

How can you not love a pony named Dr. Venkman?

20 to win.

[Madison]

It can be several things Madison.
His breeding can take you there, but the way he is put together physically as well has how he carries himself galloping can also have you lean that way. Sounds like the barn has always liked what they have seen so it becomes more of a let's find what he is comfortable doing process. It sounds like they found it on the turf.
C. Clement , as good a trainer as he is, might be even better on turf. He is really a gifted horseman.

Thanks again! The thought just occurred to me. I presume they don't do morning works on the turf as it can't be reconditioned. So, do turf horses get their works on the dirt?

Just an FYI, for all Brightwork (BC 2024) who looked like a real nice young one 4/4 to start appears to have been hurt and is coming back today at SAR R10. 200K STK certainly not a walk in the park for 1st in 300 days.

Also, SAR R11 has a few nice 2 yr olds. #4 Tiz Purple hasn't done much wrong.

BOL to all today.

[batt33]

Thanks again! The thought just occurred to me. I presume they don't do morning works on the turf as it can't be reconditioned. So, do turf horses get their works on the dirt?

Just an FYI, for all Brightwork (BC 2024) who looked like a real nice young one 4/4 to start appears to have been hurt and is coming back today at SAR R10. 200K STK certainly not a walk in the park for 1st in 300 days.

Also, SAR R11 has a few nice 2 yr olds. #4 Tiz Purple hasn't done much wrong.

BOL to all today.

Actually they can work over the turf ... It may not be every day or they will have the dogs out... Real Savvy actually had a work over the turf before this last start.
BOL to you also!

[JBEX]

#3 Reliable Source: Was very fast early on. In a race with so much potential and up and coming horses, the one thing that this horse will need to address today is tightening up that 7 4/5ths last 1/16th. That is crawling home. But, to be fair, she actually drew off from the others doing that so I do cut that some slack. But I don't see that as able to occur today.
The talent each year is amazing in these races and it continues today. What a great race.

#5 Slang: You can eliminate everything about that last race. Had to be a scary moment but in todays world, so much better to be overly cautious than not. If anything with the horse had been off, she would not be in here. If you see the works, he worked her 17 days after the event and have been steady since. The acid test was two works back, right on time, so just draw a line through that last race. We don't know what happened but she is fine and was shortly after the race. Probably all for safety reasons but she was uninjured it looks like.

Winning would be incredible so it seems, and she will be long odds. That win 2 races back was pretty solid so I do not think she is impossible in here. There is a lot of potential talent though, as you know. Really cool race to watch.
And yeah, Carmouche never saw a sprint he did not want to be near the front of. Real good speed rider, no doubt.

Anytime you can lose 14 out of 15 and show a profit, it's a good feeling. If you are not sold on anyone in particular, what the heck. She will probably have added value with that vanned off thing but I wouldn't even consider it.

thanks str

like what you said on both..agree that the slow final 1/16th might not be a big deal with her extending the lead in the stretch

[str]

Appreciated. The women Accacia, etc always amaze me, "Well his hind quarters look like a sprinter" etc.

Yes. Very true.

Once you have been around them that long, you can see the different parts and see what fits and where. Like short, long, turf, whatever.

I'll guess we all look a little different to them Madison.
I bet that the horses look at all of us the same way and say, trainer, groom, hot walker, rider, gambler, vet, and uh oh, hope he isn't a rider. Nope. Phew. Jocks agent. Lol.

[batt33]

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/IMG5783_1725113258806/MP4/IMG5783_1725113258806.mp4

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Real Savvy Post Race Update[/COLOR]

Real Savvy earned a 70 Beyer Speed Figure for his effort Friday. That’s a very solid number for a 2-year-old turf race this time of year, and is seven points above par for a New York-bred turf MSW at Saratoga. For comparison, the other division of the same condition yesterday—race 8—was won with just a 59 Beyer.
Your son of Authentic bounced out of the race in good order and a quick update form trainer Christophe Clement can be heard above.

[batt33]

Yes. Very true.

Once you have been around them that long, you can see the different parts and see what fits and where. Like short, long, turf, whatever.

I'll guess we all look a little different to them Madison.
I bet that the horses look at all of us the same way and say, trainer, groom, hot walker, rider, gambler, vet, and uh oh, hope he isn't a rider. Nope. Phew. Jocks agent. Lol.

that made me laugh...!

[str]

How can you not love a pony named Dr. Venkman?

20 to win.

Why not.

Is it me or his he a cross between Tom Hanks's hair and Bill Murrays face.

[JBEX]

army mule who just missed at the spa last out..you saw the race..$1.5M purse and she's < 3k away from $1M career earnings

kd R9 #11 danse macabre @ 5:50

not a pick .. rooting interest because of sire




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[JBEX]

army mule who just missed at the spa last out..you saw the race..$1.5M purse and she's < 3k away from $1M career earnings

kd R9 #11 danse macabre @ 5:50

not a pick .. rooting interest because of sire




.

wasn't even thinking she'd nearly double her earnings winning this lol..amazing so close to $1M and if she happened to win would be approaching $2M earnings

[Madison]

Just an FYI, for all Brightwork (BC 2024) who looked like a real nice young one 4/4 to start appears to have been hurt and is coming back today at SAR R10. 200K STK certainly not a walk in the park for 1st in 300 days.

Hauled down the 4/5, and took a ton of $ at 5/2. Never ceases to amaze me how the board can often tell you how healthy these long layoff horses are.

[str]

Just an FYI, for all Brightwork (BC 2024) who looked like a real nice young one 4/4 to start appears to have been hurt and is coming back today at SAR R10. 200K STK certainly not a walk in the park for 1st in 300 days.

Hauled down the 4/5, and took a ton of $ at 5/2. Never ceases to amaze me how the board can often tell you how healthy these long layoff horses are.

At a place like Saratoga, and in a race like that, soundness is not at all the question for a horse like that one. He is fit to win it, and in fine shape or he would not be there. When it is a horse or a race like that, and the trainer is as solid as those guys are, I would not even blink at a year off as long as the horse had worked well, had a name or regular rider, looked good in the paddock and out on the track.
That's really all you need to know is that, and was he good enough prior to the time off.
Yes, the money usually speaks volumes but at Saratoga, with all it represents in racing, especially these days, you don't screw around up there. The horse is perfect, or you don't run. That is how I would look at Saratoga racing.
Obviously, a much lesser track, this will not always apply but up there, it does for sure Madison.

[str]

So I have a question for you guys.

Anyone that looks at the Hopeful Stakes running tomorrow, let me know what your thoughts are.

I will look again but I think I have an opinion in there.

What do you all think?

Thanks

[JBEX]

So I have a question for you guys.

Anyone that looks at the Hopeful Stakes running tomorrow, let me know what your thoughts are.

I will look again but I think I have an opinion in there.

What do you all think?

Thanks

besides my obvious rooting interest #8 chancer mcpatrick (5-2)..

#2 ferocious (8-5)

appropriately named..try to beat as an underlay

#5 smoken wicked (15-1)

to ship to churchill in race before off a sloppy track debut win @ EVD @ 4.5f says something..breaks from 12 post and has a terrible trip and still gets 2nd..follows that up with a very respectable effort breaking from the rail in the saratoga special..like the consistency,ablility to run well at 3 different tracks and will get a nice middle post most likely on a fast track..exits a g2 stakes race and only 1 other does that (horse I think you might like below who actually exits 2 of them) .. my unbiased choice factoring possible overlay.. BUT STILL ROOTING FOR CM !




#6 studlydoright (12-1)

may be who you're thinking about with a maryland trainer you know shipping here with a 2yo for the 3rd time..certainly warranted off what he did in his last 2 starts..horse who beat him last out repeated somewhere..his regular jock stays aboard






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[batt33]

So I have a question for you guys.

Anyone that looks at the Hopeful Stakes running tomorrow, let me know what your thoughts are.

I will look again but I think I have an opinion in there.

What do you all think?

Thanks

I haven't looked yet! One day at a time for me lol... but I will tomorrow, unless I see some past performances before hand.

[batt33]

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/IMG0642_1725210371115/MP4/IMG0642_1725210371115.mp4

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report[/COLOR]

Straight No Chaser turned in a stellar breeze this morning, working five furlongs in :47.40. He galloped out in :59.60 and 1:12.40. We couldn’t be happier with how he looked and he showed today that he did not lose any fitness during his short break.
We remain on target for the G2 Santa Anita Sprint Championship on September 29th. The plan will be for Straight No Chaser to breeze once more at Del Mar, followed by two breezes at Santa Anita.

Looked like the rider had a snug hold on him.... looked back a couple of times to see if anyone was coming. Hopefully he remains healthy and he gets to race!

[Madison]

At a place like Saratoga, and in a race like that, soundness is not at all the question for a horse like that one. He is fit to win it, and in fine shape or he would not be there. When it is a horse or a race like that, and the trainer is as solid as those guys are, I would not even blink at a year off as long as the horse had worked well, had a name or regular rider, looked good in the paddock and out on the track.
That's really all you need to know is that, and was he good enough prior to the time off.
Yes, the money usually speaks volumes but at Saratoga, with all it represents in racing, especially these days, you don't screw around up there. The horse is perfect, or you don't run. That is how I would look at Saratoga racing.
Obviously, a much lesser track, this will not always apply but up there, it does for sure Madison.

Your help is always greatly appreciated. All the best to you and yours!!

[mrginandtonic]

So I have a question for you guys.

Anyone that looks at the Hopeful Stakes running tomorrow, let me know what your thoughts are.

I will look again but I think I have an opinion in there.

What do you all think?

Thanks

Not trying to disrespect but why is the 1- Mr Mendelslew running?? Should I even consider him hitting the board? When was the last time a first time starter won the Hopeful??

[JBEX]

Not trying to disrespect but why is the 1- Mr Mendelslew running?? Should I even consider him hitting the board? When was the last time a first time starter won the Hopeful??

was just thinking about it from a math point of view..obviously can't see it any other way

looks like with all fees including the fact he's not nominated would total $4800 just to run ..guessing round trip transport about $2k so you're now close to $7k total .. probably leaving out something and obviously str would know this better than me

if you finish 6th or further back you get $9k (3%)

5th $12k
4th $18k
3rd or better..never


obviously they feel like they have a very talented horse and the connections probably come out $1or $2k ahead minimum no matter what he does

[Jellymancan]

So I have a question for you guys.

Anyone that looks at the Hopeful Stakes running tomorrow, let me know what your thoughts are.

I will look again but I think I have an opinion in there.

What do you all think?

Thanks

Ferocious looks special. But, I’m intrigued by the 6,7 and especially 9. Need to see odds come post time.

[str]

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...5210371115.mp4

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report[/COLOR]

Straight No Chaser turned in a stellar breeze this morning, working five furlongs in :47.40. He galloped out in :59.60 and 1:12.40. We couldn’t be happier with how he looked and he showed today that he did not lose any fitness during his short break.
We remain on target for the G2 Santa Anita Sprint Championship on September 29th. The plan will be for Straight No Chaser to breeze once more at Del Mar, followed by two breezes at Santa Anita.

Looked like the rider had a snug hold on him.... looked back a couple of times to see if anyone was coming. Hopefully he remains healthy and he gets to race!

Very uneventful workout. The horse looked fit, comfortable and attentive. That's all you can hope for Batt.

[str]

Not trying to disrespect but why is the 1- Mr Mendelslew running?? Should I even consider him hitting the board? When was the last time a first time starter won the Hopeful??

I don't want to disrespect it either Mr. GandT but I have never understood this type of logic in all my time at the track. It just makes no sense in my book. But what the heck do I know?
I knew this trainers name from way back when but I never knew a person to go with it. Maybe the horse is all that, but he would never get a dime of my money. I guess he and John Robb split a van ride so there's that but I don't get it and never have or will.

[str]

was just thinking about it from a math point of view..obviously can't see it any other way

looks like with all fees including the fact he's not nominated would total $4800 just to run ..guessing round trip transport about $2k so you're now close to $7k total .. probably leaving out something and obviously str would know this better than me

if you finish 6th or further back you get $9k (3%)

5th $12k
4th $18k
3rd or better..never


obviously they feel like they have a very talented horse and the connections probably come out $1 or $2k ahead minimum no matter what he does

Again, we can try and apply logic all we want but like I said, never understood it and never will. It would never be considered under my watch but maybe that's why I never won a grade 1. Not even sure I would want to win a grade 1 like that. Who knows.

[Optional]

Hey STR, can you tell anything about this horse from the pedigree? https://catalogue.magicmillions.com.au/lot/24GPR/868



My brothers horse I have asked you about in the past won a Gold Cup race a week or so ago that qualifies him for a $3mill dollar purse race in early November https://www.google.com/search?q=the+big+dance+randwick Quite excited about getting to go and cheer it on on an owners guest ticket.

[str]

So I have a question for you guys.

Anyone that looks at the Hopeful Stakes running tomorrow, let me know what your thoughts are.

I will look again but I think I have an opinion in there.

What do you all think?

Thanks

So I am trying to make a case for a horse in here to run well and maybe win. But then as I go through the form, Chancer ** Patrick makes up 8 lengths from the from the 1/8th pole to the wire. The race runs 3/4's in 1:11 1/5ths seconds and finishes up in 1:17 4/5ths seconds. So the last 1/16th of a mile is 6 3/5ths seconds. That's a nice final time but wait, what, the horse that hits the finish line first Chancellor McPatrick was 8 lengths back ?
Now I have always trusted and leaned on my goesintas when it comes to fractions. Goesintas are , 2 goesinto 2 once, 2 goesinta 4 twice, and so on. So I look at my goesintas and see that Chancer McPatrick according to goesintas, ran the last 1/16th of a mile in 5 FLAT !
Subtracting 8 /5ths of a second off the 1:11 1/5ths and 1:17 4/5ths on the therory that Chancer McPatrick ran the 3/4 time in 1:11 1/2 plus 8/5ths of a seconds on the rule that a length is a 1/5 second difference and he ran 5 flat? Seriously?
I just timed him myself with my old stop watch ( still works) Lol, and I got him in 5 1/5th from the 1/16th pole to the wire. He went 34 flat from the 3/8ths pole while 5-6 wide. Oh, and let me repeat something...He went 5 1/5th in the last 1/16th just in case this did not register the 1st time. What??

The horse I wanted to talk about was actually Studly Doright. He has run so darn well and finishes fast. At least for a normal horse anyway. I especially enjoy a baby that can finish. Kind of rare this early on. John Robb spoke so matter of fact about him when Chucky and I were at Laurel for the day. John stays even keeled but you could tell he has high hopes for him.
But for the love of God, I don't recall ever seeing anything like what I saw with Chancellor McPatrick.

Last 1/16th in 5 1/5th. What?
Last 1/8th in 10 3/5ths. What?
Last 3/8ths in 34 flat. What?

So, you never know if you will get the same performance from race to race, and when the horse switched back to his left lead through the stretch kind of late, he really took off, so who knows what we will see today but if he finishes like he did last time, how on earth will anybody beat him?
I guess I have seen something like that before with a firster, but I can't remember it if I did. That race was incredible.

So even though there are several that could really blossom in here, I'll root for Studly to run well. And I want to see Chancellor McPatrick do what he did again. That last race was from another planet.

[str]

Hey STR, can you tell anything about this horse from the pedigree? https://catalogue.magicmillions.com.au/lot/24GPR/868



My brothers horse I have asked you about in the past won a Gold Cup race a week or so ago that qualifies him for a $3mill dollar purse race in early November https://www.google.com/search?q=the+big+dance+randwick Quite excited about getting to go and cheer it on on an owners guest ticket.

Well Opti, that is really cool. Congratulations first of all. Please pass that along to your brother. I know how much he must put into what he does . Well deserved accolades I'm sure. What I can tell from the video of looking at the horse is that if any of my babies came in looking like that, I still be training. Lolol.
Seriously, she looks GREAT ! I like everything I see. I noticed she is a September foal. That is really late in America for a baby but maybe down under, that is typical. I do not know. As long as they are all that young in that race coming up, it's a fair game.
She looks smart, calm, and athletic. Nice size, scope, eye, you name it. Bloodlines are real solid. I love how they highlighted Danzig and and Hellbent in the breeding page. I get why but that last name at the bottom, Mill Reef... OMG. 14 starts, 12 wins, 2 seconds. Not bad at all.
Mill Reef was a Virginia Bred from Paul Mellon's farm. That was elite status back in the 60's. He was a horse of the year in Europe and a champion as a 3 yr. old and 4 yr. old before he was injured and retired to stud.

All good stuff Opti. Again, tell your brother from one horseman to another, good luck and she looks fantastic !

[Madison]

Ferocious looks special. But, I’m intrigued by the 6,7 and especially 9. Need to see odds come post time.

#7 didn't look like he'd like the distance to me. Yeah also like the breeding on the 6 and found him intriguing.

[JBEX]

So I am trying to make a case for a horse in here to run well and maybe win. But then as I go through the form, Chancer ** Patrick makes up 8 lengths from the from the 1/8th pole to the wire. The race runs 3/4's in 1:11 1/5ths seconds and finishes up in 1:17 4/5ths seconds. So the last 1/16th of a mile is 6 3/5ths seconds. That's a nice final time but wait, what, the horse that hits the finish line first Chancellor McPatrick was 8 lengths back ?
Now I have always trusted and leaned on my goesintas when it comes to fractions. Goesintas are , 2 goesinto 2 once, 2 goesinta 4 twice, and so on. So I look at my goesintas and see that Chancer McPatrick according to goesintas, ran the last 1/16th of a mile in 5 FLAT !
Subtracting 8 /5ths of a second off the 1:11 1/5ths and 1:17 4/5ths on the therory that Chancer McPatrick ran the 3/4 time in 1:11 1/2 plus 8/5ths of a seconds on the rule that a length is a 1/5 second difference and he ran 5 flat? Seriously?
I just timed him myself with my old stop watch ( still works) Lol, and I got him in 5 1/5th from the 1/16th pole to the wire. He went 34 flat from the 3/8ths pole while 5-6 wide. Oh, and let me repeat something...He went 5 1/5th in the last 1/16th just in case this did not register the 1st time. What??

The horse I wanted to talk about was actually Studly Doright. He has run so darn well and finishes fast. At least for a normal horse anyway. I especially enjoy a baby that can finish. Kind of rare this early on. John Robb spoke so matter of fact about him when Chucky and I were at Laurel for the day. John stays even keeled but you could tell he has high hopes for him.
But for the love of God, I don't recall ever seeing anything like what I saw with Chancellor McPatrick.

Last 1/16th in 5 1/5th. What?
Last 1/8th in 10 3/5ths. What?
Last 3/8ths in 34 flat. What?

So, you never know if you will get the same performance from race to race, and when the horse switched back to his left lead through the stretch kind of late, he really took off, so who knows what we will see today but if he finishes like he did last time, how on earth will anybody beat him?
I guess I have seen something like that before with a firster, but I can't remember it if I did. That race was incredible.

So even though there are several that could really blossom in here, I'll root for Studly to run well. And I want to see Chancellor McPatrick do what he did again. That last race was from another planet.

I think the gain in the last 1/16th is only 4 lengths str ..8 lengths is from the stretch call..if that's the case (and I always allow for an out with my diminishing mental acuity lol) it still comes in at a quick 5 4/5ths for final 1/16th ..let me know if this is right

[Madison]

One for maybe later STR, but SAR R11 Venecia. Ist in US looked real impressive. Coming back here off 448 days off and 2nd effort?. I believe all Brown/Ortiz, and 4-1 ML. Huuummm???

[batt33]

So I am trying to make a case for a horse in here to run well and maybe win. But then as I go through the form, Chancer ** Patrick makes up 8 lengths from the from the 1/8th pole to the wire. The race runs 3/4's in 1:11 1/5ths seconds and finishes up in 1:17 4/5ths seconds. So the last 1/16th of a mile is 6 3/5ths seconds. That's a nice final time but wait, what, the horse that hits the finish line first Chancellor McPatrick was 8 lengths back ?
Now I have always trusted and leaned on my goesintas when it comes to fractions. Goesintas are , 2 goesinto 2 once, 2 goesinta 4 twice, and so on. So I look at my goesintas and see that Chancer McPatrick according to goesintas, ran the last 1/16th of a mile in 5 FLAT !
Subtracting 8 /5ths of a second off the 1:11 1/5ths and 1:17 4/5ths on the therory that Chancer McPatrick ran the 3/4 time in 1:11 1/2 plus 8/5ths of a seconds on the rule that a length is a 1/5 second difference and he ran 5 flat? Seriously?
I just timed him myself with my old stop watch ( still works) Lol, and I got him in 5 1/5th from the 1/16th pole to the wire. He went 34 flat from the 3/8ths pole while 5-6 wide. Oh, and let me repeat something...He went 5 1/5th in the last 1/16th just in case this did not register the 1st time. What??

The horse I wanted to talk about was actually Studly Doright. He has run so darn well and finishes fast. At least for a normal horse anyway. I especially enjoy a baby that can finish. Kind of rare this early on. John Robb spoke so matter of fact about him when Chucky and I were at Laurel for the day. John stays even keeled but you could tell he has high hopes for him.
But for the love of God, I don't recall ever seeing anything like what I saw with Chancellor McPatrick.

Last 1/16th in 5 1/5th. What?
Last 1/8th in 10 3/5ths. What?
Last 3/8ths in 34 flat. What?

So, you never know if you will get the same performance from race to race, and when the horse switched back to his left lead through the stretch kind of late, he really took off, so who knows what we will see today but if he finishes like he did last time, how on earth will anybody beat him?
I guess I have seen something like that before with a firster, but I can't remember it if I did. That race was incredible.

So even though there are several that could really blossom in here, I'll root for Studly to run well. And I want to see Chancellor McPatrick do what he did again. That last race was from another planet.

I love I when a trainer sticks with his jockey! I always root for them in big races hope Studly runs well! I'm looking at the outside two Number 8 and 9.
Both were well meant at first asking and Chad Brown has been rolling lately ... not mention Prat also.

Interesting to see that neither Ortiz brother has a mount in the race.

[Optional]

Well Opti, that is really cool. Congratulations first of all. Please pass that along to your brother. I know how much he must put into what he does . Well deserved accolades I'm sure. What I can tell from the video of looking at the horse is that if any of my babies came in looking like that, I still be training. Lolol.
Seriously, she looks GREAT ! I like everything I see. I noticed she is a September foal. That is really late in America for a baby but maybe down under, that is typical. I do not know. As long as they are all that young in that race coming up, it's a fair game.
She looks smart, calm, and athletic. Nice size, scope, eye, you name it. Bloodlines are real solid. I love how they highlighted Danzig and and Hellbent in the breeding page. I get why but that last name at the bottom, Mill Reef... OMG. 14 starts, 12 wins, 2 seconds. Not bad at all.
Mill Reef was a Virginia Bred from Paul Mellon's farm. That was elite status back in the 60's. He was a horse of the year in Europe and a champion as a 3 yr. old and 4 yr. old before he was injured and retired to stud.

All good stuff Opti. Again, tell your brother from one horseman to another, good luck and she looks fantastic !

I'll email him this and I think he will be thrilled by your words.

He does not know a lot about breeding and is in it for the fun. He started with 9 good friends who went in together for a horse and his interest is 90% social and just liking horses and betting on them. I honestly don't think he appreciates how lucky (clever) he has been so far to have had part of two horses and both get to run in group 1 level races and both make a noticeable profit for him. That one is his third. Our father owned a few race horses too, and loved it, but don't think he made a profit on it lol.

[JBEX]

Well Opti, that is really cool. Congratulations first of all. Please pass that along to your brother. I know how much he must put into what he does . Well deserved accolades I'm sure. What I can tell from the video of looking at the horse is that if any of my babies came in looking like that, I still be training. Lolol.
Seriously, she looks GREAT ! I like everything I see. I noticed she is a September foal. That is really late in America for a baby but maybe down under, that is typical. I do not know. As long as they are all that young in that race coming up, it's a fair game.
She looks smart, calm, and athletic. Nice size, scope, eye, you name it. Bloodlines are real solid. I love how they highlighted Danzig and and Hellbent in the breeding page. I get why but that last name at the bottom, Mill Reef... OMG. 14 starts, 12 wins, 2 seconds. Not bad at all.
Mill Reef was a Virginia Bred from Paul Mellon's farm. That was elite status back in the 60's. He was a horse of the year in Europe and a champion as a 3 yr. old and 4 yr. old before he was injured and retired to stud.

All good stuff Opti. Again, tell your brother from one horseman to another, good luck and she looks fantastic !

green desert is by danzig also ..an "amazing" amount of him in this pedigree opti and he's certainly one of the all-time greats

[JBEX]

green desert is by danzig also ..an "amazing" amount of him in this pedigree opti and he's certainly one of the all-time greats

I'm pretty sure that's why green desert is highlighted also or it might just be when you get within a generation or two of "northern dancer" (the ultimate sire) that's how they make note of it

[Optional]

I'm pretty sure that's why green desert is highlighted also or it might just be when you get within a generation or two of "northern dancer" (the ultimate sire) that's how they make note of it

When I said to him it is from Northern Dancer, he not only did not know that, he did not know Northern Dancer lol

He totally relies on advice of the trainer who is a good friend and appears to be putting him into good horses so far.

I was still surprised he had so little idea of it's pedigree.

I thought it looked good but don't know enough to be sure so am smiling wide for him after seeing what you two say.

[Optional]

I suggested they call it Bentoverbackwards btw.