Anyone have Wednesday's Gulfstream Form?

[madmaxx]

P6 Carryover tomorrow...wanted to glance.

[mikemca]

That pick 6 is the worst bet you can make.Unless you have the sole winning ticket it is a 52% takeout which is why the carry over is so much.That carryover is extremely unlikely to be hit until the last day of the meet when it is a mandatory payout.


On the other side the Pick 5 is a 15% take out and the best bet in the US.

[dugbug15]

another good thing about the gulfstream pick-5 is they pay a consolation 4 of 5 even if 5 of 5 is hit.a small amount,$20 to $50,usually,but ,it's better than losing your whloe p-5 investment.

[madmaxx]

Gulfstream has been nothing but bombs so far anyways..not really planning to hit it. I had no idea the takeout was so huge there, though. Thanks for the heads up.

[TonyP]

MIke where did you get the takeout info from

[sq764]

That pick 6 is the worst bet you can make.Unless you have the sole winning ticket it is a 52% takeout which is why the carry over is so much.That carryover is extremely unlikely to be hit until the last day of the meet when it is a mandatory payout.


On the other side the Pick 5 is a 15% take out and the best bet in the US.

the pick 6 is a 10 cent play, this is a FANTASTIC betting opportunity.. not sure why you feel this way

[zebra58]

looks like 28% daily and that 28% appears to go into the jackpot carryover, don't know what's required to get full payout maybe $1 play, as 3 10 cent 6 of 6 ticket paid 65 hunred (mon), compared to 50cent pk 5 payout of 56 hundred,, rather of hit the dime 6 by getting the 2/1 shot a race earlier though diff from day to day, though was already a 95000 carry going into monday, can't figure it out, but i can go deep & get good coverage w/dime six, maybe mikemca will shed some light this

must be min $1 wager on the 6#s to get the jackpot

[mikemca]

looks like 28% daily and that 28% appears to go into the jackpot carryover, don't know what's required to get full payout maybe $1 play, as 3 10 cent 6 of 6 ticket paid 65 hunred (mon), compared to 50cent pk 5 payout of 56 hundred,, rather of hit the dime 6 by getting the 2/1 shot a race earlier though diff from day to day, though was already a 95000 carry going into monday, can't figure it out, but i can go deep & get good coverage w/dime six, maybe mikemca will shed some light this must be min $1 wager on the 6#s to get the jackpot

You have to be the only one who has a winning ticket in order to get the jackpot/carryover or else you pay the 50%+ takeout.There have been numerous bombs throughout the sequence everyday so far this meet.So if someone was going to have the only winning ticket it would have happened by now.

[unusialsusp5]

only play pik 6 when their is no carryover to avoid syndicate play. this is the harvey pack theory and it is sound. you have a better chance to get the whole pool on the first day when the wise guys aren't spreading to get one with a carryover. biggest sucker bet in racing. the pick 6 carryover. more winning tickets to deal with if you can somehow do it you will get much less.

[madmaxx]

I cant play the 10 cent Pick6 in Cali...though I have heard about it..seems stupid to me anyways. Pick6 should always be $2.

[madmaxx]

only play pik 6 when their is no carryover to avoid syndicate play. this is the harvey pack theory and it is sound. you have a better chance to get the whole pool on the first day when the wise guys aren't spreading to get one with a carryover. biggest sucker bet in racing. the pick 6 carryover. more winning tickets to deal with if you can somehow do it you will get much less.

I agree with some of this. When the Pick6 gets carried over multiple times its not worth playing. However, if you can nail it on Day 2 of a carryover (where it has only carried one day), where the pool is 500k or so, you have a good chance of being one of a few tickets if you get some price horses. Usually the 3rd day of a carryover is when everyone goes nuts with the tickets....so I think theres an advantage to playing a 1-day carryover.

[thezbar]

MIke where did you get the takeout info from

http://www.sportsbettingacumen.com/horse-racing-track-takeout-chart.asp

[mikemca]

MIke where did you get the takeout info from

They takeout 20% off the top or all the money in the pick 6 pool.Then with whats left they pay out the winning tickets with 60% and put the remaining 40% back into the pool.

For example
$100 pool
$20 goes right to them
$80 left
$48 paid to winners
$32 back into pot

So $52 is taken of every $100


In short its robbery

[ukbro00]

Yeah, its really stupid. Beluah Park has the same thing.

[madmaxx]

thats sick...

[sq764]

They takeout 20% off the top or all the money in the pick 6 pool.Then with whats left they pay out the winning tickets with 60% and put the remaining 40% back into the pool.

For example
$100 pool
$20 goes right to them
$80 left
$48 paid to winners
$32 back into pot

So $52 is taken of every $100


In short its robbery

But the important thing is 80% goes back to the players.. so its still a 20% takeout.. i understand your theory, but $52 out of every $100 is not TAKEN OUT, its $80 of the $100 is paid out..

[mikemca]

You are playing for 48% of the pool unless you have the only winner.Which is close to impossible.So 52% is taken out.I am simply trying to inform the OP that the "Carryover" isn't the normal carryover .IMO this is a very bad bet and you are best served waiting until closing day when there is a mandatory payout.Then this may very well be the best bet ever.

[zebra58]

don't have to battle the big money carryover hunters synd players w/this setup, makes it more playable & more likely hit w 1 ticket

[joeyp1222]

any contests for wednesday the 19th?

[mikemca]

any contests for wednesday the 19th?

Nah was gonna do Tampa Bay but they also took all races off the turf along with Gulfstream so there is like a bazillion scratches at both tracks.