Originally posted by agkil1125
It hits more than you think.
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Both teams have won 3 in a row. Someone has to lose...
It hits more than you think.Comment -
Washington can with by 1 goal and you win both sides.Comment -
On bovada, Washington is the puck line favorite, but Minnesota is the moneyline favorite.. (-115 v -105)Originally posted by Hereindallas
not sure what to do on this matchup now
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Remember you can bet the alternative puckline if needed. If the game goes -110 then we will not be betting on it.Comment -
If you play it this way, and Washington wins by 1, you win both bets. Any other outcome results in one win and one loss.Originally posted by agkil1125
Note that the line has reversed as of this posting (2 PM EST). It may reverse again before the game. The official line will be the final one.Comment -
Ive got -110 on both right now.Originally posted by bonhammerComment -
When is the official line taken? Like is it an hour before game, 15 minutes when should we be placing the bets?Originally posted by Andy3568Comment -
Also covered in post #2447. Just about every question asked in this thread is.Originally posted by Greg29so we bet both sides on the minnesota vs washington game ?
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Well then you haven't read the last 8 posts before yours or post #2447. What's so hard to understand, hope for a one goal win by the favorite. If not, one team will WIN bet and other will go to (B). Absolutely no way to lose both. And please do not quote the plays, especially that one.Originally posted by agkil1125Comment -
Yes you are sure. Use the website I have repeatedly said to use.Originally posted by redwing634On bovada, Washington is the puck line favorite, but Minnesota is the moneyline favorite.. (-115 v -105)
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EXACTLY. This is the only scenario that we would skip the bet, both teams being -110/-110 or -105/-105. If this happens, we will skip (A) bets and pick up team that loses on the (B) bet for 2 units instead of 1.Originally posted by bonhammerComment -
Originally posted by agkil1125This is covered every day in my daily updates. I am thinking people are only seeing the BLUE print and rushing to ask questions without reading anything else.Originally posted by KC Needs Hockey
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I read through your daily updates and also your post #2447 to make sure my question is not answered there because I am sure you are tired of posting that answers could be found on the post over and over again. The question I am asking is when you state "All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines fromScoresandOdds.com/." When would people who have been following this system suggest we place the wagers since if we wait for final lines the bets will be locked an we can't place wagers.Originally posted by Wallco99Comment -
Wallco NHL GOLD
2013-14 System to date: 34-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +34.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.20 units)
(11/6/13):
#29 N.Y. Rangers (+1½) v1 (B) - Win
#35 Nashville (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
v1 Fades
(A) 22-5
(B) 5-0
(C) 0-0
Losses: None
v2 Plays
(A) 6-2
(B) 0-1
(C) 1-0
Losses: None
Games for (11/7/13):
#34 N.Y. Rangers @Columbus (M/L) v2 (B) (7:05 pm EST)
#36 Minnesota (M/L) @ Washington v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST) **
#37 Minnesota @ Washington (+1½) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST) **
#38 Vancouver @ San Jose (M/L) v2 (A) (10:35 pm EST)
** Denotes close line game. Keep eye on line for possible change of dog/favorite.
Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.Comment -
It's like asking me when is the exact minute I should buy a stock? The question is answered to the best of anyone's ability in my update post. I have reposted it right before this one so it is easy to find. I mean really, what do you think the final lines are based on? The line that was out at 2:00 PM or the line just before close? On closer line games you wait as long as possible until you feel you can't wait anymore before line closes, and then put it in. Some times you guess right and sometimes you don't. This shit is not foolproof, nothing is, but it's what we've got so make it work. Some things should just be obvious.Originally posted by KC Needs HockeyComment -
The system is based on the final line. If the line changes one minute before game time, that is the official line. As to when to make the bet, "as late as practical" is the rule I would follow, which may be different for everyone. If you will be on a plane at the start of the game, check the line and make the bet before that. If you'll be sitting in front of a PC at the start of the game, you can wait until right before the start. If you're on a cruise and only check things once a day, make the bet then. Like Wallco posted: Sometimes it will agree with the system, sometimes it won't.Originally posted by KC Needs HockeyComment -
Thanks for the kind response. It make sense now just trying to get the best understand of the situation since i have never played a system before. In the situation that it doesn't agree lets use today for example. I'm getting on a plane and at the time the bet is Wash ML and Minn PL but by game time the line changes and the system says Wash PL and Minn ML. Say Minny wins by one the system will have 2 W and end that string of betting but should I play out the washington ML string of bets on my own? Thanks for the help and if I need to move this to a PM for the threads sake let me know.Originally posted by Andy3568Comment -
Sorry if I came off unkind, that was not my intent. Just the same kind of questions everyday and I don't know why.Originally posted by KC Needs HockeyComment -
Case like that, you don't necessarily have to play every single series. If you miss one or two, no big deal. It's better to miss two bets rather than be on the wrong side of both and take a loss that could have been avoided if the proper lines were available to you. If you're going away, all I can say is bring a smart phone, or take your best educated guess before you leave, or just skip that close line game.Originally posted by KC Needs HockeyComment -
Thanks so much for the info. I was under the impression that the system works only when you follow it correctly thats why I was asking to make sure I tried to keep as close to the correct plays as possible. I also understand the tedious task of answer 20 questions a day and appreciate the effort very much.Originally posted by Wallco99Comment -
I would not continue a series that I lost but the system won. That would just be too risky in my opinion. The only time that would occur is if you made a ML bet that should have been a PL bet, so at worst, being a ML bet, your loss would probably be less than 2 units. I would just take the loss and move on to the next series.Originally posted by KC Needs HockeyComment -
Some people need to find a new hobby. Christ people! Think before you type. I pretty much am assured very few on here has ever ran a complete seasonal thread, and do not understand the complexity or time it takes for Wallco to do what he does. If you do not know the difference from the PL from the ML and how they work KENO is down the hall. Leave the man alone.Comment -
Yes, but on the contrary, if the P/L bet loses that should have been a M/L bet, and then if the whole series ends up turning into a loss, you would lose a hell of a lot more $$ than the rest of us who got -108 on the (A) bet M/L, when you stuck yourself with the -350 P/L bet. That's why I said, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, so just wait as long as you can to make sure you get as close to the backtested wagers that you can.Originally posted by Andy3568Comment -
A +EV bet should beat the closing line more often than not. Assuming the plays in the system are +EV, you would be better off getting as early of a line as you could in theory. I always lock in a play as early as I can. It might result in me not being on the side of the closing line at times, but if the system is +EV I should be better off in the long run. Theoretically.Comment -
Not if you end up shorting yourself +1 1/2 goals in a one goal game because you settled for an early M/L.Originally posted by calebepley93Comment -
My last posted lines are correct, Minnesota ended as the favorite. Good luck everyone. We need Minny by 1, even though thet are currently down by 1.Comment -
Yea, I got the opposite tonight. A timing thing with getting lines. I was surprised how many times we got the middle last year.Comment -
This is extremely interesting, and as a newer better I just want to thank you Wallco to opening me to system ideasComment -
Nothing is a given. But proven track records make it a little easier to place the tougher wagers, even though it is inevitable that some of them will lose.Originally posted by cmendo2005Comment -
And I want to thank you for spelling my name right. Seems to be hard for a select few.Originally posted by cmendo2005Comment -
Looks like it panned out for you. Would have sucked if Minnesota got that shoot out goal instead of Wash. Good job.Originally posted by Grinder12000Comment -
Wow! All this focus on the two "A" bets on Minnesota and Washington completely drew our attention away from the "B" bet on Columbus... which, BTW, is going to a "C" bet.Comment -
Relatively small (C) bet in the grand scheme of things. Not that I want to lose, but if one is coming soon, I would prefer this one.Originally posted by Andy3568Comment -
May be worth a retest to see how playing +1 1/2 on both teams would have done in the close line games.Originally posted by Grinder12000Comment -
Totally agree!Originally posted by Wallco99Comment
