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  • danhimal
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-02-12
    • 376

    #5601
    Originally posted by HawthornHawks
    Im not trying to be a knob mate.... but potentially losing around 33-35 units per ABC play with those odds?? is that right??
    Me neither, just insinuating some of us can be insane.
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    • Wallco99
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-01-11
      • 7261

      #5602
      Oblivious To The Obvious

      hh
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      • ken23lau
        SBR Sharp
        • 09-11-10
        • 296

        #5603
        Personally, I play this system on a labby and set the tolerance at a max of -231. Otherwise, I skip the A bet. If it's a B bet and it exceeds the threshold, I play the ML. Helps me keep the risk in check and has worked out well so far.
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        • liqidzen
          SBR Hustler
          • 04-07-15
          • 88

          #5604
          Originally posted by HawthornHawks
          Columbus are like a $1.38 (-260) line play, surely those odds are insane to take on a progressive play system? are you really going to chase that down in a B Bet??? and why do the Islanders play today?? they havent loss 3 ATS in a row??? Flyers play tomorrow....
          short odds implies low risk.
          Last edited by liqidzen; 11-19-16, 06:42 AM.
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          • danhimal
            SBR Sharp
            • 04-02-12
            • 376

            #5605
            Wallco NHL GOLD
            2016-17 System to Date: 34-1
            A(fin.series)
            System
            lProfit/Loss: +2.44 unit(s)A(fin.series)
            Current Open Series: 1
            A(-2.70 units)


            (11/18/16):
            #36LColumbus (+1½)Lv1l(A)L- Win

            v1 Fades
            (A) 17-10
            (B) 4-6
            (C) 6-0
            Losses: None

            v2 Plays
            (A) 6-3
            (B) 1-2
            (C) 1-1
            Losses:
            BUF (-31.56u)

            Games for (11/19/16):
            #35LEdmonton (+1½) @ DallasLv2l(B)L(7:05 pm EST)
            #37LTampa Bay @ Philadelphia (M/L)Lv1l(A)L(1:05 pm EST)
            #38LPittsburgh @ Buffalo (+1½)Lv2l(A)L(7:05 pm EST)

            ** Denotes lines not available at time of post.


            Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

            Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite.
            The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L on M/L favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait till closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line(+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com final lines.

            System rules and back test can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
            Last edited by danhimal; 11-19-16, 12:49 PM.
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            • danhimal
              SBR Sharp
              • 04-02-12
              • 376

              #5606
              Wallco NHL GOLD
              2016-17 System to Date: 36-1
              A(fin.series)
              System
              lProfit/Loss: +4.44 unit(s)A(fin.series)
              Current Open Series: 1
              A(-1.17 units)


              (11/19/16):
              #35LEdmonton (+1½)Lv2l(B)L- Win
              #37LPhiladelphia (M/L)Lv1l(A)L- Loss
              #38LBuffalo (+1½)Lv2l(A)L- Win

              v1 Fades
              (A) 17-11
              (B) 4-6
              (C) 6-0
              Losses: None

              v2 Plays
              (A) 7-3
              (B) 2-2
              (C) 1-1
              Losses:
              BUF (-31.56u)

              Games for (11/20/16):
              #39LColumbus @ Washington (M/L)Lv1l(A)L(12:35 pm EST)
              #40LWinnipeg (+1½) @ CarolinaLv1l(A)L(5:05 pm EST)

              ** Denotes lines not available at time of post.


              Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

              Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite.
              The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L on M/L favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait till closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line(+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com final lines.

              System rules and back test can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
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              • danhimal
                SBR Sharp
                • 04-02-12
                • 376

                #5607
                Wallco NHL GOLD
                2016-17 System to Date: 36-1
                A(fin.series)
                System
                lProfit/Loss: +4.44 unit(s)A(fin.series)
                Current Open Series: 3
                A(-5.27 units)


                (11/20/16):
                #39LWashington (M/L)Lv1l(A)L- Loss
                #40LWinnipeg (+1½)Lv1l(A)L- Loss

                v1 Fades
                (A) 17-11
                (B) 4-6
                (C) 6-0
                Losses: None

                v2 Plays
                (A) 6-4
                (B) 2-2
                (C) 1-1
                Losses:
                BUF (-31.56u)

                Games for (11/21/16):
                #37LTampa Bay @ Nashville (M/L)Lv1l(B)L(8:05 pm EST)
                #39LColorado (+1½) @ ColumbusLv1l(B)L(7:05 pm EST)
                #41LNew Jersey @ San Jose (M/L)Lv2l(A)L(10:35 pm EST)

                #40LResumes v1l(B) on 11/22/16

                ** Denotes lines not available at time of post.


                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite.
                The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L on M/L favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait till closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line(+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com final lines.

                System rules and back test can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
                Last edited by danhimal; 11-21-16, 03:22 PM.
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                • danhimal
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 04-02-12
                  • 376

                  #5608
                  Wallco NHL GOLD
                  2016-17 System to Date: 39-1
                  A(fin.series)
                  System
                  lProfit/Loss: +7.44 unit(s)A(fin.series)
                  Current Open Series: 1
                  A(-2.30 units)


                  (11/21/16):
                  #37LNashville (M/L)Lv1l(B)L- Win
                  #39LColorado (+1½)Lv1l(B)L- Win
                  #41LSan Jose (M/L)Lv2l(A)L- Win

                  v1 Fades
                  (A) 17-11
                  (B) 6-6
                  (C) 6-0
                  Losses: None

                  v2 Plays
                  (A) 7-4
                  (B) 2-2
                  (C) 1-1
                  Losses:
                  BUF (-31.56u)

                  Games for (11/22/16):
                  #40LCarolina @ Toronto (M/L)Lv1l(B)L(7:05 pm EST)
                  #42LSt. Louis @ Boston (M/L)Lv1l(A)L(7:05 pm EST)


                  ** Denotes lines not available at time of post.


                  Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                  Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite.
                  The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L on M/L favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait till closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line(+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com final lines.

                  System rules and back test can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
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                  • danhimal
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 04-02-12
                    • 376

                    #5609
                    Wallco NHL GOLD
                    2016-17 System to Date: 39-1
                    A(fin.series)
                    System
                    lProfit/Loss: +7.44 unit(s)A(fin.series)
                    Current Open Series: 2
                    A(-7.97 units)


                    (11/22/16):
                    #40LToronto (M/L)Lv1l(B)L- Loss
                    #42LBoston (M/L)Lv1l(A)L- Loss

                    v1 Fades
                    (A) 17-14
                    (B) 6-7
                    (C) 6-0
                    Losses: None

                    v2 Plays
                    (A) 7-4
                    (B) 2-2
                    (C) 1-1
                    Losses:
                    BUF (-31.56u)

                    Games for (11/23/16):
                    #42LSt. Louis @ Washington (M/L)Lv1l(B)L(7:05 pm EST)
                    #43LWinnipeg (+1½) @ MinnesotaLv2l(A)L(7:05 pm EST)
                    #44LN.Y. Islanders (+1½) @ Los AngelesLv1l(A)L(10:35 pm EST)

                    #40LResumes v1l(C) on 11/24/16

                    ** Denotes lines not available at time of post.


                    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite.
                    The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L on M/L favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait till closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line(+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com final lines.

                    System rules and back test can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
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                    • Wallco99
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-01-11
                      • 7261

                      #5610
                      Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
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                      • TechnicalTrader
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-09-16
                        • 1434

                        #5611
                        Originally posted by Wallco99
                        Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
                        Thanks Wallco.

                        Just attempting to be helpful here, not trolling like that other guy....

                        Have you ever thought about only playing the B and C games, while chasing only once? The reason why I ask is because I have been very successful doing exactly that with your basic system, used on the ATP. I wait for a B game and only chase once. By doing so, I can risk more and chase less, obviously. Let me know if I messed this up but here are the results I found and how this system would've done had you only played the B and C game:

                        By playing only two games, rather than three, the revised target profit would be 3.5 units, rather than 1 unit.

                        As you can see, the average odds we get is around -154 (to make things easier in excel, I use decimal odds 1.65 = -154). By betting to earn 3.5 units, our A bet would be 5.40 units and C bet 13.7 units (total risk 19.1).

                        Risk Odds (Dec.) Profit Total Risk
                        B Bet 5.39 1.65 3.50
                        C Bet 13.70 1.65 8.89 19.10
                        So assuming we played only the B and C games, this would've been our results from 2006-2011 (I'd need to dig up the other seasons stats but the results are pretty much the same throughout each season):


                        Record Units W/L Total Profit Total Profit Wallco
                        2010-11 W 89 311.5 191.5 115.37
                        L 6 120
                        2009-10 W 77 269.5 169.5 144.75
                        L 5 100
                        2008-09 W 71 248.5 88.5 80.37
                        L 8 160
                        2007-08 W 82 287 27 -8.36
                        L 13 260
                        2006-07 W 82 287 167 132.47
                        L 6 120
                        2005-06 W 76 266 146 -11.33
                        L 6 120
                        789.5 453.27
                        Again, I'm not trying to troll or be a dick like that other douche, just want to help out here...
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                        • thekoreanmang
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-17-14
                          • 1422

                          #5612
                          Wow. Great stuff, TT.
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                          • TechnicalTrader
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-09-16
                            • 1434

                            #5613
                            Thanks Mang, taking things one step further:

                            Exponential growth at 3.5% profit per chase over 89 bets would be 21.36X original BR
                            Exponential growth at 1% profit per chase over over 242 bets would be 11.11X original BR

                            These numbers do not tell the truth though, because you will never win 89 or 242 series in a row. Lets look at a series of 10 wins:

                            With exponential growth at 3.5% profit per chase over 10 bets, your RoI would be +40%
                            With exponential growth at 1% profit per chase over 10 bets, your RoI would be +11.5%

                            Do the math, it really isn't that difficult...

                            I understand that certain people need/want daily action and a three game chase is great for that, but if you wan't to maximize your profits, I really recommend to wait for the B bet and chase only once.

                            One more thing, adjusting your unit size daily is the way to go. Betting a set unit size throughout the entire season is not very professional.
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                            • sedwards86
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 10-25-16
                              • 451

                              #5614
                              Your strategy is a very good one, TechnicalTrader. The one disadvantage I see is that you will miss out on all of the A bets that win or cover.
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                              • TechnicalTrader
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-09-16
                                • 1434

                                #5615
                                Yes, but in the long run you will make more money.

                                You play a lot less bets but your profit and risk is much much higher.

                                Let's assume you are single... Would you rather have sex with 6 dimes over a span of four weeks and have a very low risk of getting an STD, or would you rather have sex with 30 average girls over four weeks with a much higher risk of catching an STD?

                                Sure, you'll get a lot more action, but you'll have way more fun with the dime pieces, along with a much lower risk of having a deformed d!ck...
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                                • sedwards86
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 10-25-16
                                  • 451

                                  #5616
                                  Lol great analogy
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                                  • JKEGS81
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 05-29-15
                                    • 27

                                    #5617
                                    TT, I've noticed you and thekoreanmang for the last few months and really appreciate both your helpful input and efforts on this forum, you're both a lot like me in the way you think and and come from the perspective of greatest returns, and always operate with professionalism. Anyway I've also been following Wallco99 for years and he and a few others on here are great - this system here obviously rocks the way it is and yet I've been playing it with only the B and C games the last two years just like you describe above and I can share from experience it has worked outstanding! Best wishes to all this year, and Happy Turkey Day!
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                                    • thekoreanmang
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-17-14
                                      • 1422

                                      #5618
                                      Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                      Yes, but in the long run you will make more money.

                                      You play a lot less bets but your profit and risk is much much higher.

                                      Let's assume you are single... Would you rather have sex with 6 dimes over a span of four weeks and have a very low risk of getting an STD, or would you rather have sex with 30 average girls over four weeks with a much higher risk of catching an STD?

                                      Sure, you'll get a lot more action, but you'll have way more fun with the dime pieces, along with a much lower risk of having a deformed d!ck...
                                      Amazing strategy. Amazing analogy. 6 dimes in 4 wks is actually a lot. I think 6 dimes in a year is a lot for even the above avg dude.
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                                      • TechnicalTrader
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-09-16
                                        • 1434

                                        #5619
                                        Thanks guys!

                                        Jkeg, please help us all out and share your wisdom/experience.

                                        This place can be a pretty cold, wicked gathering for some class act jerkoffs... We need more people like Mang, Wallco or DoubleDimes in here. This place would be so much better and way more productive if we could just focus on being great at what we love. I love sports, I love numbers... Let's make some money!!


                                        Mang, if this is done correctly, you could literally land 6 dimes in 4 weeks! Ha, you walked in to that one. What a set up!!!
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                                        • thekoreanmang
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-17-14
                                          • 1422

                                          #5620
                                          Do 10 dimes equate to a Susan B. Anthony then?

                                          Sorry, I've been a dad for a year now so I've been perfecting my dad jokes like nobody's business.
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                                          • thekoreanmang
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-17-14
                                            • 1422

                                            #5621
                                            Originally posted by JKEGS81
                                            TT, I've noticed you and thekoreanmang for the last few months and really appreciate both your helpful input and efforts on this forum, you're both a lot like me in the way you think and and come from the perspective of greatest returns, and always operate with professionalism. Anyway I've also been following Wallco99 for years and he and a few others on here are great - this system here obviously rocks the way it is and yet I've been playing it with only the B and C games the last two years just like you describe above and I can share from experience it has worked outstanding! Best wishes to all this year, and Happy Turkey Day!
                                            Dang! Nice to know that at least someone else has been testing this strat out to some degree. There certainly have been times where I have missed A bets and have just bet heavier on the B bets to similar success. I still have been betting the As but with TT's backtesting I certainly feel a lot more confident to go in that direction on a more regular basis.

                                            Thank you for the kind words. I think it's important for all of us to try and reclaim the positivity and collaboration in this forum in an effort to produce results for all involved.

                                            I've come and gone on this forum a bit but in the past year I would say TechnicalTrader, doubledime and Wallco99 (and those who have been updating in his stead) have been wonderful contributors.

                                            I've always though CBB was a big money suck, but I've ventured over into that SBR forum and have seen that these threads have gotten the most hits:



                                            Talk NCAA basketball handicapping, picks, matchups, basketball odds and teams in the NCAAB betting forum.
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                                            • TechnicalTrader
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-09-16
                                              • 1434

                                              #5622
                                              Originally posted by thekoreanmang
                                              Do 10 dimes equate to a Susan B. Anthony then?

                                              Sorry, I've been a dad for a year now so I've been perfecting my dad jokes like nobody's business.
                                              Congrats my man! Nothing better than having a kid! I might have to leave work early today. Thanks for reminding me about how great it is to be a parent!!
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                                              • oilcountry99
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-29-10
                                                • 707

                                                #5623
                                                Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                Thanks Wallco.

                                                Just attempting to be helpful here, not trolling like that other guy....

                                                By playing only two games, rather than three, the revised target profit would be 3.5 units, rather than 1 unit.

                                                As you can see, the average odds we get is around -154 (to make things easier in excel, I use decimal odds 1.65 = -154). By betting to earn 3.5 units, our A bet would be 5.40 units and C bet 13.7 units (total risk 19.1).

                                                Risk Odds (Dec.) Profit Total Risk
                                                B Bet 5.39 1.65 3.50
                                                C Bet 13.70 1.65 8.89 19.10
                                                TT, appreciate your contribution's to the forum, always an interesting read. I was just curious how you arrived at average odds of -154? I'm also wondering if you had a 'worst case scenario' in terms of odds. Sometimes buying the +1.5 PL can come at hefty odds as well as big favs. Based on your research and averages used this appears to be a nice formula.

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                                                • TechnicalTrader
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-09-16
                                                  • 1434

                                                  #5624
                                                  Originally posted by oilcountry99
                                                  TT, appreciate your contribution's to the forum, always an interesting read. I was just curious how you arrived at average odds of -154? I'm also wondering if you had a 'worst case scenario' in terms of odds. Sometimes buying the +1.5 PL can come at hefty odds as well as big favs. Based on your research and averages used this appears to be a nice formula.

                                                  Oil, good to hear from you. I'm assuming you are the same Oil as from across the street? I love that road team parlay thread!

                                                  I simply calculated what the avg unit size was, based on the losses Wallco posted in the OP of this thread. I'd say, worst case scenario, your loss will be about 30-35 units a series. That is on a A-B-C chase, much lesson a two game chase.
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                                                  • liqidzen
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 04-07-15
                                                    • 88

                                                    #5625
                                                    Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                    One more thing, adjusting your unit size daily is the way to go. Betting a set unit size throughout the entire season is not very professional.
                                                    Technicaltrader, how would you reccomend adjusting your unit size per day? Would it be a percentage of your bankroll? What percentage do you use? I have a spreadsheet I use at the moment but have been putting off upgrading it, this might be a good time to set it up over the break.
                                                    Cheers and thanks for the input.
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                                                    • danhimal
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 04-02-12
                                                      • 376

                                                      #5626
                                                      Wallco NHL GOLD
                                                      2016-17 System to Date: 40-1
                                                      A(fin.series)
                                                      System
                                                      lProfit/Loss: +8.44 unit(s)A(fin.series)
                                                      Current Open Series: 3
                                                      A(-10.44 units)


                                                      (11/23/16):
                                                      #42LWashington (M/L)Lv1l(B)L- Win
                                                      #43LWinnipeg (+1½)Lv2l(A)L- Loss
                                                      #44LN.Y. Islanders (+1½)Lv1l(A)L- Loss

                                                      v1 Fades
                                                      (A) 17-15
                                                      (B) 7-7
                                                      (C) 6-0
                                                      Losses: None

                                                      v2 Plays
                                                      (A) 7-5
                                                      (B) 2-2
                                                      (C) 1-1
                                                      Losses:
                                                      BUF (-31.56u)

                                                      Games for (11/24/16):
                                                      #40LCarolina @ Montreal (M/L)Lv1l(C)L(7:35 pm EST)

                                                      #43LResumes v2l(B) on 11/25/16
                                                      #44LResumes v1l(B) on 11/26/16

                                                      ** Denotes lines not available at time of post.


                                                      Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                                      Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite.
                                                      The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L on M/L favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait till closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line(+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com final lines.

                                                      System rules and back test can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
                                                      Last edited by danhimal; 11-24-16, 04:08 PM.
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                                                      • danhimal
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 04-02-12
                                                        • 376

                                                        #5627
                                                        Finally got everything cooking! Some spare time to post and check out the action for today.

                                                        Happy Thanksgiving!
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                                                        • TechnicalTrader
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-09-16
                                                          • 1434

                                                          #5628
                                                          Originally posted by liqidzen
                                                          Technicaltrader, how would you reccomend adjusting your unit size per day? Would it be a percentage of your bankroll? What percentage do you use? I have a spreadsheet I use at the moment but have been putting off upgrading it, this might be a good time to set it up over the break.
                                                          Cheers and thanks for the input.
                                                          In this case, I'd use the above posted numbers: 5.39% and 13.70% on the C bet and adjust daily
                                                          Last edited by TechnicalTrader; 11-24-16, 04:24 PM.
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                                                          • oilcountry99
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-29-10
                                                            • 707

                                                            #5629
                                                            Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                            Oil, good to hear from you. I'm assuming you are the same Oil as from across the street? I love that road team parlay thread!

                                                            I simply calculated what the avg unit size was, based on the losses Wallco posted in the OP of this thread. I'd say, worst case scenario, your loss will be about 30-35 units a series. That is on a A-B-C chase, much lesson a two game chase.
                                                            Same old Oil, LOL! Thanks for the response. Road Parlay is great, still wish I could find a profitable way to play the opposite side (HOME DOGS).
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                                                            • TechnicalTrader
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-09-16
                                                              • 1434

                                                              #5630
                                                              Originally posted by oilcountry99
                                                              Same old Oil, LOL! Thanks for the response. Road Parlay is great, still wish I could find a profitable way to play the opposite side (HOME DOGS).
                                                              Some things are meant to be some things are not. Walk away from it if you can't find anything close towhat you are looking for. I've been there hundred of times... ;(

                                                              I honestly don't see that much value in home teams in the NHL, not even home dogs. Have you looked in to away team dogs??
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                                                              • oilcountry99
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-29-10
                                                                • 707

                                                                #5631
                                                                Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                                In this case, I'd use the above posted numbers: 5.39% and 13.70% on the C bet and adjust daily
                                                                TT, Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post.
                                                                Wouldn't it make sense to adjust your 'to win' meaning your 3.5% profit goal? So risk to win 3.5% of your daily BR.
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                                                                • Wallco99
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-01-11
                                                                  • 7261

                                                                  #5632
                                                                  Yes, I am pretty sure his loss assessment amounts are incorrect, since he used an average line instead of actual lines. I am pretty sure I ran B & C only numbers when doing my long term backtest, and came to the conclusion that the most profit was derived from playing the large amount of "A" bets. Re-run ACTUAL series with the exact lines for each game as I did originally, not an assumption of what loss amounts would be, then come to a conclusion. Your data is much too inconsistent to prematurely post in this thread as an alternative strategy for playing my system.
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                                                                  • danhimal
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 04-02-12
                                                                    • 376

                                                                    #5633
                                                                    Wallco NHL GOLD
                                                                    2016-17 System to Date: 41-1
                                                                    A(fin.series)
                                                                    System
                                                                    lProfit/Loss: +9.44 unit(s)A(fin.series)
                                                                    Current Open Series: 2
                                                                    A(-3.85 units)


                                                                    (11/24/16):
                                                                    #40LMontreal (M/L)Lv1l(C)L- Win

                                                                    v1 Fades
                                                                    (A) 17-15
                                                                    (B) 7-7
                                                                    (C) 7-0
                                                                    Losses: None

                                                                    v2 Plays
                                                                    (A) 7-5
                                                                    (B) 2-2
                                                                    (C) 1-1
                                                                    Losses:
                                                                    BUF (-31.56u)

                                                                    Games for (11/25/16):
                                                                    #43LWinnipeg (+1½) @ NashvilleLv2l(B)L(6:05 pm EST)
                                                                    #45LEdmonton @ Arizona (+1½)Lv1l(A)L(9:05 pm EST)

                                                                    #44LResumes v1l(B) on 11/26/16


                                                                    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                                                    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite.
                                                                    The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L on M/L favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait till closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line(+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com final lines.

                                                                    System rules and back test can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
                                                                    Last edited by danhimal; 11-25-16, 11:57 AM.
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                                                                    • sedwards86
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 10-25-16
                                                                      • 451

                                                                      #5634
                                                                      So today it looks like Anaheim is both a v1 and v2 A bet. Then Chicago is a v1 B bet (#44).
                                                                      Last edited by sedwards86; 11-26-16, 04:45 PM. Reason: I forgot some information
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                                                                      • danhimal
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 04-02-12
                                                                        • 376

                                                                        #5635
                                                                        Wallco NHL GOLD
                                                                        2016-17 System to Date: 42-1
                                                                        A(fin.series)
                                                                        System
                                                                        lProfit/Loss: +10.44 unit(s)A(fin.series)
                                                                        Current Open Series: 2
                                                                        A(-9.43 units)


                                                                        (11/25/16):
                                                                        #43LWinnipeg (+1½) @ NashvilleLv2l(B)L- Loss
                                                                        #45LEdmonton @ Arizona (+1½)Lv1l(A)L- Win

                                                                        v1 Fades
                                                                        (A) 18-15
                                                                        (B) 7-7
                                                                        (C) 7-0
                                                                        Losses: None

                                                                        v2 Plays
                                                                        (A) 7-5
                                                                        (B) 2-3
                                                                        (C) 1-1
                                                                        Losses:
                                                                        BUF (-31.56u)

                                                                        Games for (11/26/16):
                                                                        #44LChicago (+1½) @ Los AngelesLv1l(B)L(10:35 pm EST)
                                                                        #46LAnaheim (+1½) @ San JoseLv1l(A)L(10:35 pm EST)
                                                                        #47LAnaheim (+1½) @ San JoseLv2l(A)L(10:35 pm EST)

                                                                        #43LResumes v2l(C) on 11/26/16


                                                                        Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                                                        Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite.
                                                                        The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (M/L) instead of the (+1½). We will always play the M/L on M/L favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a M/L dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait till closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). You may need to buy the alternate line(+1½) on occasion if the M/L dog team we are betting on is the (-1½) team with your individual book. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the M/L dog team on ScoresandOdds.com final lines.

                                                                        System rules and back test can be found in posts #4197 & #4198.
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