NHL playoff Best Bets - wednesday 6/5/2008

[Illusion]

I will do a daily recap of each days action. 10 units is the max/game.

Sorry but i will not count parlays, only straight up selections.

unit size will be the risk amount

if you risk 2u on +150; gain 3u if win, down 2u if loose.
if you risk 2u on -130; gain 1.54u if win, down 2u if loose.

good luck!

please let me know for any corrections and give me a line for the game it will make calculations easier for me

[Illusion]

Penguins +105 (10 units)

[chipski]

please let me know for any corrections and give me a line for the game it will make calculations easier for me

where are the standings from yesterday ? standings for the playoffs overall ? then i could tell you if you were off in your calculations ?

i could post them myself but it is not my unit system of grading... would not want to try and take over if it is not my place to do so .
i would grade myself as much higher than the way you all grade the selections ...
whoever created this should post the results for the previous day as well as the overall standings .
is only one day left , or is it . lol

[ryanXL977]

red wings regulation -1/2 +130 x 5

[betplom]

Couldn't resist:

Regulation time
5* Detroit -0.5 +135 (Centrebet)

[xxx]

monday's results:
chipski    	4	0	46.02	4.60	71.4%
Mr Nuts    	1	0	24.50	2.45	52.2%
Illusion    	1	0	21.50	2.15	54.1%
Shumakov    	2	0	3.95	3.95	62.2%
ryanXL977    	0	1	-5.00	-1.00	58.8%
NeverEnough    	0	1	-5.00	-1.00	38.6%
icemantbi    	0	1	-7.00	-1.00	49.0%
j$        	0	2	-15.00	-2.00	57.1%
nhl playoffs top cappers:
betplom    	30	12	82.53	15.31	71.4%
chipski    	51	33	74.07	15.93	60.7%
element1286    	24	22	36.09	6.22	52.2%
lowbets    	28	17	30.24	9.63	62.2%
Wyndham    	27	43	26.13	-7.90	38.6%
xxx        	25	26	22.13	4.51	49.0%
Mr Nuts    	9	13	18.06	-1.25	40.9%
j$        	20	19	17.20	-0.19	51.3%
Marigold HD    	4	3	16.60	0.95	57.1%
mr. Leisure    	11	12	6.90	3.87	47.8%
icemantbi    	30	26	6.42	1.76	53.6%
dmiles1021    	1	0	6.00	1.00	100.0%
WestsidePete	16	12	5.45	-1.01	57.1%
Shumakov    	2	0	3.95	3.95	100.0%
Sundram    	7	8	3.94	-1.93	46.7%
EastsidaProduct	1	0	1.74	0.87	100.0%
Checkerboard	1	0	0.67	0.67	100.0%
pimike    	3	2	0.63	0.85	60.0%
pending bets:
betplom Detroit to win the Stanley Cup +137 (10 units)
icemantbi Detroit wins series 4-2, +535 (1 unit)
Pittsburgh wins series 4-3, +667 (1 unit)

[pimike]

Penguins +110 10 units

[Wilforth]

First, the date in the title of the thread should read "Wednesday 6/4/2008" and not "...6/5/2008". That confused me a bit like the Red Wings will be confused today. Now to my bets:

Penguins ML +110
Wings/Penguins Under 5 (+110)

[icemantbi]

I have Detroit to win in 6 at +535, so I'm going to roll with that tonight. What a heartbreaker last game was, with the Wings blowing it in the last 35 seconds. Hopefully the Wings get it done tonight.

[EastsidaProduct]

Let's just say the 'champagne tastes just as sweet on the road'.

Detroit (-130)
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5 units.



P.S. yo Iceman...whose the broad?

[Shumakov]

Detroit Red Wings -1
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NBA 2007-08 record: +56=2-34

[ryanXL977]

i am telling you guys,there is no freaking way pens win again
they were dominated last game by a mile
this wont happen again
det is 2x as good as pitt

[Wilforth]

i am telling you guys,there is no freaking way pens win again
they were dominated last game by a mile
this wont happen again
det is 2x as good as pitt

Wait until Pens win this series before your eyes. Wings will forever regret allowing that equalizer in the last seconds of the last game.
Pens will move up 2-3 today and are capable of a streak of 3 wins. Looks improbable but we'll see.

[ryanXL977]

the red wings are a much much better team
they have dominated
they wont blow it again
no way
maybe they lose today
but not again at home

[chipski]

i am telling you guys,there is no freaking way pens win again
they were dominated last game by a mile
this wont happen again
det is 2x as good as pitt

one factor that exists is the age factor . kinda like the spurs scenario .... old vs youngbucks .
spurs were tagged with the old team label , result = they did make it past the young hornets but were eventually bounced

results through playoffs 08 thus far :
pens swept 4 - 0 in round 1
pens won 4 - 1 in round 2
pens won 4 - 1 in round 3
total :14 games played

wings won 4 - 2 in round 1
wings swept 4 - 0 in round 2
wings won 4- 2 in round 3
total :16 games played

age factor can be a looked at both ways , could be better to have more experience over the younger team , not sure how anyone can be confident in saying either has the ad in this game 6 ..
but the factor still exists .
det worn out ? should be
pitt worn out ? i dont know

goaltender advantage ? has to be looked at as even pretty much right ..

home ice / crowd / noise in favor of pitt / mental aspect of the pitt players being more comfortable in friendly surroundings / home cooking / refs / pitt management controls the temperatue of the buliding , ice colder or ...

i am no in the lockerroom expert , just throwing some things out there . i'm sure there is more to throw out there ..
experts ?
not just ooh det is better , is a game played on ice NOT SMOOTH DRY GRASS , neither of these teams have a backfield of barry sanders and robert newhouse and a top 3 off line with the best tight end since winslow . lol

ryan , how can anyone say a team dominated the other team in said game when said so called dominant team was down 2 - 0 . when teams truly dominate said game , any game , they really are never facing a real deficit . BEING DOWN 2 - 0 IN A STANLEY CUP FINALS GAME 5 IS PRETTY FAR FROM BEING ABLE TO SAY WE DOMINATED . LMAO
i understand what you mean , but alot of what you see in what looks like domination is just the other team allowing the other team to be on offense like that ...
is not quite like rocky putting his gloves down and letting apollo expend all his energy to tire him out ... but in a way believe it or not , teams do this in alot of sports .
AND YES IT CREATES THE ILLUSION THAT A TEAM IS BEING DOMINATED . WHEN IN REALITY IT IS A LAY LOW/NOT COMPLETLY DOWN , BUT LOW AND LET THEM EXPEND THEIR ENERGY GIVING THEIR BEST PUNCH , AND THEN YES , KABOOM !
sorry so long and for the caps .

the thought is the cause of it all !!!!! home team positive free mind can be translated into good things for the home team in said game , millions upon millions of times throughout all of sports games . positive creates positive things . home is always something to consider ...

who i take is undetermined as of yet .

[ryanXL977]

detroit has domianted EXCEPT for the first period of game 3. fair enough? ha

[chipski]

dominated huh . okay .

[Illusion]

Penguins +105 (10 units)

Penguins +115 (10 units) This is by far my biggest hockey play ever. Go Pens!!!!!

[ryanXL977]

my opinion chipski
thats all it is
you can have yours too

[rain_e]

Took the Over 5 at -130 for 5 units.

[chipski]

detroit has domianted EXCEPT for the first period of game 3. fair enough? ha

how many times do we bet on a baseball team because of the high profile starter only to lose the game .
what happens sometimes is the high profile starter does his job shutting the other team down but our teams offense fails to produce . so we get nothing from the great start but a loss .
the other guys come in from the bullpen and burn our money for said game . (scenarios are endless)
who is the better pitcher for tonight in game 6 ? osgood or fleury ?

if the answer is fleury and he (does the unthinkable) shuts down det pretty much will the pens be able to tally ?
another words just because one hugh factor seems to outweigh the rest does not mean we will come out on top .

huge factor being that the majority will always look at the det redwings as the powerhouse in the nhl and anyone else that happens to be their opponent is automatically a lesser than team ...
FLEURY HAS THE ABILITY TO OFFSET EVERY THOUGHT AND PRE SERIES PREDICTION , BY HIMSELF !
he could actually have a shutout believe it or not , so can pens score 1 would be the $$ question .

how many times has peavy and oswalt pitched shutout ball only for their team to lose . is this kinda scenario maybe .
or it could be nothing like this at all , and det makes all the fav backers count their $ .
pitt is the u-dog , i thought more people liked the u-dog and tryed to root them in . not the overpriced , overtagged , overhyped sim[ple fav . LIKE THE PATRIOTS which were far more distinguised carrying an undefeated record into the big game ....

yes , you know i want to take the rwings myself tonight , but why ? because they get the fav pricetag ?
because they are a bigger hockey name ?
because why would they be listed as a fav on enemy ice if the game could so very easily go either way ?
because i have been brainwashed by the media all these years ?

i know for a fact that once the puck drops it is anyones game to win and all oddmakers ideas and #s fly right out the window . what we thought would happen will regress into the i dont believe this bs .... yeah , so who do i take tonight ?

dominated , dominating , dominates ?
no way you can ever be down and dominate . if you really dominate a game i would say you shut the other team out .
we can define that as a team dominated . it all depends on what sport or game . some teams let the other score because they know they can outscore them or give a little up because it wont matter . NHL IS NOT ONE OF THOSE SPORTS . 1 goal is like a td right . sometimes a goal is worth much more than a td .

fav vs dog . i wonder just how much we really know about this setup and how much people dont want you to know about how this all works as a whole . so i know ? u damn right i know . i cant tell you though because there are too many shades of gray and fine lines beneath the lines . too much fluctuation and the tide changing in the results for each given day to master any of it . there is no such thing as a master at picking sports games . but you can be one of the masters .
but never a true master because masters never lose . sorry long again , lets get this game over with !!!!!!!

[ryanXL977]

i think you can dominate and lose
happens n the nfl on a fluke muff or fumble or turnover
happens in soccer. and happens in baseball
fleury had the game of his life. that isnt the norm. they were DOMINATED last game

[chipski]

right , by a team dominating you mean they stay on offense more ?
with all things that exist in life there is a flip side . one of the truisms in life that made talk shows sooo successful this generation . you can flip any and everything in life . if you are or have been married i guarANTEE one of you was or is nicknamed FLIPPER .
all that to say we could say the wings falied more last game , failed is not a good word nor is it an ingredient to succeed (maybe) see you could twist the f out that . they had more shots but yet failed time after time .
so that would mean the pens succeded more time after time turning away the wings attempts to score .

life is a pancake

[ryanXL977]

amen

[chipski]

i take the wings too . lol
i think the line is just gonna get worse the closer it gets to gametime so i will go ahead and click it .
backing the wings because by all i have witnessed it seemed the wings are the more talented team , so why not end it here . the 2 forwards they have can be monsters . the goalies are the biggest factor so i guess i will just roll the dice because i like both equal . not sure if i am being influenced more by what i have digested in watching the series or the simple fav aspect . sad i know . is really a tossup so what can you say to be convinced either way .

wings -135 10 units
wings 2nd period -117 10 units
wings 3rd period -116 10 units

[Checkerboard]

Detroit Red Wings -129

[Bobby]

I agree with the Detroit backers, a Pitt win wouldn't exactly surprise me but I suspect Detroit will not allow it to get to game 7 where "anything can happen".

[greek]

red wings at home ------------for champship so pens at homes is a winner tonight

[Dashwood Clipper]

Wings havent closed out a series at home since 2002.

[ryanXL977]

Wings havent closed out a series at home since 2002.

thats right baby!

[potsie]

i am telling you guys,there is no freaking way pens win again
they were dominated last game by a mile
this wont happen again
det is 2x as good as pitt

We may not agree on the Cincy/Philly game, but we are definitely on the same page on this one!

[betplom]

i take the wings too . lol

wings -135 10 units
wings 2nd period -117 10 units
wings 3rd period -116 10 units

Interesting strategy chipper. Good luck catching up!

[chipski]

sweet job !

Interesting strategy chipper. Good luck catching up!

very nice job . congrats !

[Shumakov]

Detroit Red Wings - Stanley cup, I congratulate the fans
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NBA 2007-08 record: +57=2-34

[greek]

so do the celtics close at home ?

or at lakers

Wings havent closed out a series at home since 2002.