Rangers @ Blackhawks (-165)

BuffaloBettor · 01-16-09, 12:01 PM

I bet the over 5.5. The Black Hawks @ home can score some goals...I think it will be a 4 (maybe 5)-2 Chicago win. GL on your wager!!

ploben · 01-16-09, 01:58 PM

CHI ML moved to -170

POTVINSUX · 01-16-09, 02:12 PM

I'm all over NYR+140

ploben · 01-16-09, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by POTVINSUX

I'm all over NYR+140

Any reason why?

element1286 · 01-16-09, 02:34 PM

Good value on Chicago.

TheBud · 01-16-09, 02:38 PM

I really like Chitown on the puckline tonight... I know I know I don't ever take PL's either...

but...

CHI 24-17 ATS... NYR is 18-27 ATS...

CHI 16-4 ATS at home...

Chicago as a home fav 3.94 goals for avg. 1.67 goals against avg.... that ='s alotta 2 goal wins mang

ploben · 01-16-09, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by TheBud

I really like Chitown on the puckline tonight... I know I know I don't ever take PL's either...

but...

CHI 24-17 ATS... NYR is 18-27 ATS...

CHI 16-4 ATS at home...

Chicago as a home fav 3.94 goals for avg. 1.67 goals against avg.... that ='s alotta 2 goal wins mang

I do agree with CHI winning but NYR are 26-19 ATS this season. I don't think there is any value in the PL in this game.

rawkstarr · 01-16-09, 02:49 PM

Chicago will SMOKE the Rangers tonight at home. Not sure about the over/under 5.5 , both goalies, when tested, can be red hot. Chitown's Kane, Toewes will light the lamp tonight and prove to be too much for the Rangers D.

TheBud · 01-16-09, 02:50 PM

ATS Records

NY RANGERS Overall 18-27
Home 5-19
Away 13-8

Thats a major conflict in numbers...whats your source?

ploben · 01-16-09, 02:59 PM

Statfox.com...

Something doesn't seem right. Still like CHI ML.

What site you getting it from?

ploben · 01-16-09, 03:10 PM

I think I am getting bad data on the ATS record. 26-19-4 is their SU record.

EDIT: covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nhl/matchups/g2_atsoverall_15.html

I am clearly getting bad data on ATS records and I appologize.

NYI do have trouble covering but @ only +180 this is waaay lower than it should be. Take a look at every other NHL fav. tonight giving -1.5 and none of them are below +210.

TheBud · 01-16-09, 03:33 PM

I was just about to say that I was getting bad data from "blankets" I went back thru the sched and added the numbers for Rangers ATS quickly I came up with 15W-30L ATS

I think what I posted is the correct ATS record for NYR tho... at 18-27

BigTuna · 01-16-09, 03:36 PM

Hawks play well at home and usually score goals in bunches.... however, Duncan Keith might be out due to a concussion he suffered agains buffalo on Wed. He leads the Hawks defense in minutes and should be an all star.... but anyway... The hawks played with a lot of passion against Buffalo after hit on Keith in the 2nd Period on Wednesday. Can the defense step up again if he is out with the same passion???

BigTuna · 01-16-09, 03:41 PM

FYI, Chicago Radio just reported DUNCAN KEITH IS OUT....

ploben · 01-16-09, 03:44 PM

Keith is not expected to play tonight but I don't see this hurting CHI.

3-2 CHI. NYR will score a late 3rd period goal to pull within 1. 4-2 if CHI gets an empty netter.

TheBud · 01-16-09, 03:46 PM

Damn that hurts the Chitown D forsure, hope they step it up tonight....

Rangers 11 of 15 losses have been by more than a goal.... BUT...

Just noticed Rangers have only lost one game as a dog by more than one goal.....

ohwell hoping for Hawks to pound em tonight...

ploben · 01-16-09, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by TheBud

Damn that hurts the Chitown D forsure, hope they step it up tonight....

Rangers 11 of 15 losses have been by more than a goal.... BUT...

Just noticed Rangers have only lost one game as a dog by more than one goal.....

ohwell hoping for Hawks to pound em tonight...

You already lock in the PL?

BigTuna · 01-16-09, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by ploben

Keith is not expected to play tonight but I don't see this hurting CHI.

3-2 CHI. NYR will score a late 3rd period goal to pull within 1. 4-2 if CHI gets an empty netter.

The do have a lot of guys like Wisnewksi and Burrish to step up..... hmmmm.... Keith is the heart of defense though!

I am torn on something that was a sure bet earlier

TheBud · 01-16-09, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by ploben

You already lock in the PL?

Yes +186 7 Units... I never do PL's and am sure I'll be reminded why tonight...

I'm rather new here, been at many other sites for a while now but do not like any of their NHL Forums...

ploben · 01-16-09, 04:00 PM

I got burned by the BOS PL last night. I will almost never play them again. Just too many factors that can screw the PL.

ploben · 01-16-09, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by BigTuna

The do have a lot of guys like Wisnewksi and Burrish to step up..... hmmmm.... Keith is the heart of defense though!

I am torn on something that was a sure bet earlier

I feel like it might not be as good as a value as before. These lines makers are pros so they might have seen this coming and set the line low because of this news.

What still grabs me about this play is Vegas set the PL way to low for CHI and -170 seems like a lot of chalk for 2 good teams in the NHL. It's like the want NYR money, enticing people to play the NYR to trap them.

I think the value has deflated a bit but still is a good play. Scale of 1 to 10 this morning on value was an 8.5, now more like a 6.5. Still above avg. value.

Plus the fact I can't flip-flop on my play. That would be cowardly

POTVINSUX · 01-16-09, 04:11 PM

Ploben i like the value on NYR. Only meeting this yr. NYR won 4-2 at the Garden. The Rangers D has been great the last few games. King Henrik has picked up his game and he'll be playing at top notch tonight fellas. Although there PP has been awful i look for them to get in going. Eighteen of the players fathers will also be making this trip to Chi-town to watch there boys. Rangers win 3-2

BuffaloBettor · 01-16-09, 04:23 PM

With Duncan Keith out, my OVER 5.5 (+110) looks like a lock!!...GL everyone...

ploben · 01-16-09, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by POTVINSUX

Ploben i like the value on NYR. Only meeting this yr. NYR won 4-2 at the Garden. The Rangers D has been great the last few games. King Henrik has picked up his game and he'll be playing at top notch tonight fellas. Although there PP has been awful i look for them to get in going. Eighteen of the players fathers will also be making this trip to Chi-town to watch there boys. Rangers win 3-2

We wouldn't be a little biased would we? I checked out your SBR page

I respect your post but I just can't agree with you on the "value" of the NYR ML. I am sure you would like to see them win and they very well might win but @+155 I don't think you are getting paid enough if they do win.

I might just put a small bet on the tie @ +315

UPDATE: The line just went to CHI ML -175 while I was posting this.

POTVINSUX · 01-16-09, 04:43 PM

Iv'e watched every NYR gm past 15 yrs. Maybe missed a few. Biased? Yes, you could say so. It's not going to sway your bet as youv'e said you already placed it. On the other hand maybe you should. BOL man. In my eyes Rangers win. Thank me later.

ploben · 01-16-09, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by POTVINSUX

Iv'e watched every NYR gm past 15 yrs. Maybe missed a few. Biased? Yes, you could say so. It's not going to sway your bet as youv'e said you already placed it. On the other hand maybe you should. BOL man. In my eyes Rangers win. Thank me later.

If they win I won't be thanking you, I will be cursing your name up and down for losing the bet

lol...obviously kidding.

I wish we could both win, alas, impossible. I think this game will be closer then it was this morning...if that makes any sense.

Euphoria38 · 01-16-09, 05:05 PM

Problem with the rangers is this: they cant score, and they have one of the worst PP i have ever seen. The hawks can and will score goals. Hawks going for 3 in a row. LETS GO HAWKS!

TheBud · 01-17-09, 12:26 AM

Five 5-on-3's for the Hawks and they lose..

Unders went 5-1 tonight.. loving the overs tomorrow

Hip Hip Huet · 01-17-09, 12:51 AM

Curse Drury and his clutchness

ploben · 01-17-09, 01:52 AM

Just like BOS, they did not take advantage of their oppertunities. The Bruins happened to pull out a win but CHI could not hold on.

POTVINSUX · 01-17-09, 01:54 AM

Wow the NHL really needs to consider sitting those refs for good. Like i said 3-2 NYR win.