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  • nash13
    SBR MVP
    • 01-21-14
    • 1122

    #1
    Simple MLB system
    If the total line in the current game is lower by 0.5 or 1 than the previous one take the UNDER.
    2861-2412
    with 260 Units Profit in the last 4 years.
    if you know any filters to redefine let me know.
  • nash13
    SBR MVP
    • 01-21-14
    • 1122

    #2
    it gets even better if this is the same opponent as in the game before = SG > 1
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    • Marco30
      SBR Rookie
      • 12-05-17
      • 26

      #3
      baseball is a grind u have to stay patient with a system.....
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      • nash13
        SBR MVP
        • 01-21-14
        • 1122

        #4
        i think 5 years running is ok, but you have to play every selection to win by volume.
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        • nemisis12
          SBR High Roller
          • 08-26-09
          • 147

          #5
          What's your monthly profits running this system?
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          • Bsims
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-03-09
            • 827

            #6
            Originally posted by nash13
            If the total line in the current game is lower by 0.5 or 1 than the previous one take the UNDER.
            If different opponents from previous games, does total have to be below both previous totals?
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            • nash13
              SBR MVP
              • 01-21-14
              • 1122

              #7
              Originally posted by Bsims
              If different opponents from previous games, does total have to be below both previous totals?
              no only 1 is the condition as minimum.
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              • nash13
                SBR MVP
                • 01-21-14
                • 1122

                #8
                Originally posted by nemisis12
                What's your monthly profits running this system?
                1423 716-707 (0.02, 50.3%) -106.8 -106.6 -$2,795 -$4,290 617-746-60 (0.13, 45.3%) 8.5 -$19,935 +$7,095 season = 2009
                1367 683-684 (0.01, 50.0%) -108.4 -106.0 -$4,530 -$2,790 595-701-71 (0.31, 45.9%) 8.1 -$17,390 +$4,530 season = 2010
                1352 683-669 (0.01, 50.5%) -106.6 -105.8 -$2,117 -$4,946 640-630-82 (0.25, 50.4%) 7.8 -$5,035 -$7,455 season = 2011
                1416 701-715 (-0.05, 49.5%) -106.8 -105.8 -$5,841 -$1,257 644-710-62 (0.44, 47.6%) 7.9 -$13,065 +$360 season = 2012
                1429 734-695 (0.08, 51.4%) -106.7 -105.7 +$1,116 -$7,892 596-770-63 (0.09, 43.6%) 7.7 -$25,115 +$11,850 season = 2013
                1379 674-705 (-0.10, 48.9%) -106.1 -105.7 -$6,695 +$365 578-725-76 (0.12, 44.4%) 7.5 -$21,645 +$9,745 season = 2014
                1381 691-690 (-0.04, 50.0%) -105.3 -106.3 -$3,301 -$3,022 614-688-79 (0.35, 47.2%) 7.4 -$15,067 +$2,360 season = 2015
                1365 675-690 (-0.07, 49.5%) -105.7 -106.7 -$5,223 -$1,333 614-699-52 (0.26, 46.8%) 8.0 -$15,280 +$2,997 season = 2016
                1424 702-722 (-0.06, 49.3%) -105.9 -106.6 -$6,138 -$739 606-749-69 (0.09, 44.7%) 8.6 -$20,850 +$10,942 season = 2017
                1 loosing year out of 9.
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                • turbobets
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-13-06
                  • 999

                  #9
                  Yesterday
                  Team A vs Team B = 7.0ou
                  Team C vs Team D = 8.0ou

                  Today
                  Team A vs Team C = 7.5ou bet it?
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                  • nash13
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-21-14
                    • 1122

                    #10
                    Originally posted by turbobets
                    Yesterday
                    Team A vs Team B = 7.0ou
                    Team C vs Team D = 8.0ou

                    Today
                    Team A vs Team C = 7.5ou bet it?
                    No i only looked at the condition when both teams dropped in the Unders.
                    Last edited by nash13; 03-02-18, 02:21 AM.
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                    • nash13
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-21-14
                      • 1122

                      #11
                      0.5 <= p:total - total <= 1 and season > 2008 and SG = 1 and op:total - o:total
                      shows

                      1 0-0-1 (0.00, 0.0%) 12.0 $0 $0 op:total - o:total = -5.5
                      4 1-3-0 (-1.50, 25.0%) 10.5 -$220 +$200 op:total - o:total = -4.0
                      7 4-3-0 (1.50, 57.1%) 10.4 +$60 -$125 op:total - o:total = -3.5
                      10 7-2-1 (2.10, 77.8%) 10.3 +$475 -$560 op:total - o:total = -3.0
                      19 9-8-2 (1.18, 52.9%) 9.8 -$12 -$160 op:total - o:total = -2.5
                      43 17-21-5 (0.42, 44.7%) 9.0 -$570 +$195 op:total - o:total = -2.0
                      136 71-60-5 (0.61, 54.2%) 8.7 +$503 -$1,810 op:total - o:total = -1.5
                      317 149-153-15 (0.47, 49.3%) 8.4 -$1,782 -$1,069 op:total - o:total = -1.0
                      537 237-271-29 (0.14, 46.7%) 8.2 -$5,777 +$969 op:total - o:total = -0.5
                      809 390-389-30 (0.72, 50.1%) 8.0 -$3,227 -$3,686 op:total - o:total = 0.0
                      855 369-439-47 (0.21, 45.7%) 7.8 -$11,038 +$3,411 op:total - o:total = 0.5
                      613 257-341-15 (-0.11, 43.0%) 7.6 -$11,728 +$5,799 op:total - o:total = 1.0
                      345 162-168-15 (0.62, 49.1%) 7.5 -$2,287 -$769 op:total - o:total = 1.5
                      193 88-98-7 (0.13, 47.3%) 7.4 -$1,920 +$238 op:total - o:total = 2.0
                      76 36-36-4 (0.88, 50.0%) 7.2 -$335 -$310 op:total - o:total = 2.5
                      45 24-17-4 (1.40, 58.5%) 7.0 +$570 -$950 op:total - o:total = 3.0
                      23 10-13-0 (-0.24, 43.5%) 7.1 -$443 +$280 op:total - o:total = 3.5
                      14 3-10-1 (-0.79, 23.1%) 7.3 -$780 +$652 op:total - o:total = 4.0
                      6 3-3-0 (1.58, 50.0%) 7.1 -$45 -$20 op:total - o:total = 4.5
                      4 1-3-0 (-0.62, 25.0%) 7.1 -$250 +$205 op:total - o:total = 5.0
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                      • nash13
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-21-14
                        • 1122

                        #12
                        So this will be the query for daily results
                        H and 0.5 <= p:total - total <= 1 and 0.5 <= op:total - o:total <= 1 and season > 2008

                        566 247-295-24 (0.17, 45.6%) 8.5 -$7,600 +$2,560 season = 2009
                        530 228-273-29 (0.28, 45.5%) 8.1 -$7,115 +$2,150 season = 2010
                        535 252-251-32 (0.19, 50.1%) 7.8 -$2,385 -$2,640 season = 2011
                        560 249-287-24 (0.38, 46.5%) 7.8 -$6,440 +$1,380 season = 2012
                        569 228-316-25 (0.01, 41.9%) 7.6 -$12,030 +$6,760 season = 2013
                        541 221-287-33 (0.01, 43.5%) 7.4 -$9,380 +$4,720 season = 2014
                        546 241-275-30 (0.26, 46.7%) 7.4 -$6,571 +$1,400 season = 2015
                        548 241-286-21 (0.09, 45.7%) 8.0 -$7,348 +$2,290 season = 2016
                        572 237-306-29 (0.00, 43.6%) 8.6 -$9,562 +$5,762 season = 2017
                        2576 - 2144
                        243 Units Profit
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                        • nash13
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-21-14
                          • 1122

                          #13
                          Complementary to that there is an Over system once the total line increased by exactly 1.
                          H and p:total - total = -1.0 and op:total - o:total = -1.0 and season > 2008 and season

                          199 103-85-11 (0.67, 54.8%) 9.4 +$1,145 -$2,830 season = 2009
                          209 104-97-8 (0.59, 51.7%) 8.9 -$10 -$1,890 season = 2010
                          188 89-82-17 (0.97, 52.0%) 8.6 +$100 -$1,700 season = 2011
                          192 92-90-10 (0.57, 50.5%) 8.7 -$460 -$1,355 season = 2012
                          189 97-88-4 (0.62, 52.4%) 8.4 +$220 -$1,985 season = 2013
                          150 78-70-2 (0.30, 52.7%) 8.3 +$345 -$1,635 season = 2014
                          164 91-64-9 (1.12, 58.7%) 8.2 +$2,115 -$3,752 season = 2015
                          213 122-82-9 (1.24, 59.8%) 9.0 +$3,311 -$5,306 season = 2016
                          178 100-73-5 (1.17, 57.8%) 9.4 +$2,255 -$3,697 season = 2017
                          +176 Units in the last 3 Years
                          Both Systems togehter +176
                          1 Units in the last 3 Years. But it is a Volume Betting System with nearly 800 Picks per year.
                          Last edited by nash13; 03-02-18, 03:16 AM.
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                          • VeggieDog
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-21-09
                            • 7214

                            #14
                            [QUOTE=nash13;27625978]Complementary to that there is an Over system once the total line increased by exactly 1.
                            H and p:total - total = -1.0 and op:total - o:total = -1.0 and season > 2008 and season

                            199 103-85-11 (0.67, 54.8%) 9.4 +$1,145 -$2,830 season = 2009
                            209 104-97-8 (0.59, 51.7%) 8.9 -$10 -$1,890 season = 2010
                            188 89-82-17 (0.97, 52.0%) 8.6 +$100 -$1,700 season = 2011
                            192 92-90-10 (0.57, 50.5%) 8.7 -$460 -$1,355 season = 2012
                            189 97-88-4 (0.62, 52.4%) 8.4 +$220 -$1,985 season = 2013
                            150 78-70-2 (0.30, 52.7%) 8.3 +$345 -$1,635 season = 2014
                            164 91-64-9 (1.12, 58.7%) 8.2 +$2,115 -$3,752 season = 2015
                            213 122-82-9 (1.24, 59.8%) 9.0 +$3,311 -$5,306 season = 2016
                            178 100-73-5 (1.17, 57.8%) 9.4 +$2,255 -$3,697 season = 2017
                            +76 Units in the last 3 Years
                            Both Systems togehter +176
                            1 Units in the last 3 Years. But it is a Volume Betting System with nearly 800 Picks per year.[/QUOTE]


                            Holy crap. 2400 picks and you're only up 76 units? A dartboard would be better.
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                            • nash13
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-21-14
                              • 1122

                              #15
                              [QUOTE=VeggieDog;27625986]
                              Originally posted by nash13
                              Complementary to that there is an Over system once the total line increased by exactly 1.
                              H and p:total - total = -1.0 and op:total - o:total = -1.0 and season > 2008 and season

                              199 103-85-11 (0.67, 54.8%) 9.4 +$1,145 -$2,830 season = 2009
                              209 104-97-8 (0.59, 51.7%) 8.9 -$10 -$1,890 season = 2010
                              188 89-82-17 (0.97, 52.0%) 8.6 +$100 -$1,700 season = 2011
                              192 92-90-10 (0.57, 50.5%) 8.7 -$460 -$1,355 season = 2012
                              189 97-88-4 (0.62, 52.4%) 8.4 +$220 -$1,985 season = 2013
                              150 78-70-2 (0.30, 52.7%) 8.3 +$345 -$1,635 season = 2014
                              164 91-64-9 (1.12, 58.7%) 8.2 +$2,115 -$3,752 season = 2015
                              213 122-82-9 (1.24, 59.8%) 9.0 +$3,311 -$5,306 season = 2016
                              178 100-73-5 (1.17, 57.8%) 9.4 +$2,255 -$3,697 season = 2017
                              +76 Units in the last 3 Years
                              Both Systems togehter +176
                              1 Units in the last 3 Years. But it is a Volume Betting System with nearly 800 Picks per year.[/QUOTE]

                              Holy crap. 2400 picks and you're only up 76 units? A dartboard would be better.
                              I guess you are not reading it the right way.
                              176 Units Profit in 3 years with 7.7% Yield 2221 Picks.
                              If 7% Yield is not enough in 2000+ selections then nobody can help you.
                              I typed 76 instead of 176. but you get the numbers.
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                              • VeggieDog
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-21-09
                                • 7214

                                #16
                                Ok. Best of luck to you.
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                                • nash13
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-21-14
                                  • 1122

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by VeggieDog
                                  Ok. Best of luck to you.
                                  thanks. just shared it to know if people have other conditions to look at.
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                                  • Bsims
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-03-09
                                    • 827

                                    #18
                                    Nash13, interesting "data mining" find. I'll certainly take a look at it in a couple of weeks when I can turn my attention back to baseball. Out of curiosity, can you think of any logical explanation as to why this might be true?
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                                    • Waterstpub87
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-09-09
                                      • 4102

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Bsims
                                      Nash13, interesting "data mining" find. I'll certainly take a look at it in a couple of weeks when I can turn my attention back to baseball. Out of curiosity, can you think of any logical explanation as to why this might be true?
                                      If it is actually true, it could be latency in the lines. Consider: Yankees offense is over rated. Bookmakers continuously set the total too high. Sharp betters hit the under moving it down. It takes a while for the bookmaker to adjust. Leaving opportunities in assuming that line will be continued to be bet downwards.

                                      I find it hard to follow these things, because they don't specify opening or closing lines on the backend, as in which one is bet to generate the results.
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                                      • nash13
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-21-14
                                        • 1122

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Waterstpub87
                                        If it is actually true, it could be latency in the lines. Consider: Yankees offense is over rated. Bookmakers continuously set the total too high. Sharp betters hit the under moving it down. It takes a while for the bookmaker to adjust. Leaving opportunities in assuming that line will be continued to be bet downwards.

                                        I find it hard to follow these things, because they don't specify opening or closing lines on the backend, as in which one is bet to generate the results.
                                        that's the main problem with any system you take. if you choose to use metrics to determine winners then everything depends on timing and value of the bet. if you assume that the lines from sportsdatabase are actually playable, then it is value nevertheless.
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                                        • chilidog
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-05-09
                                          • 10305

                                          #21
                                          A 6% yield doubles your money annually. With a 7.7% yield, that's a 143.55% annual return. So, a $10,000 starting bankroll in 2018 turns into $24,355 at the end of the MLB season. End of 2019 season, you have $59,316. End of 2020 season, you've turned your $10k starting roll into $144,464.

                                          It's the power of compounding. Sports bettors see that they'd have to grind out 800 MLB bets in a year for 3 years and ONLY make 176 units. They don't see what can really happen.

                                          Problem is most sports bettors are too impatient to handle the grind, so they never grow. They keep it as recreational only, and never end up making any serious money from it.



                                          Originally posted by nash13
                                          I guess you are not reading it the right way.
                                          176 Units Profit in 3 years with 7.7% Yield 2221 Picks.
                                          If 7% Yield is not enough in 2000+ selections then nobody can help you.
                                          I typed 76 instead of 176. but you get the numbers.
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                                          • nash13
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-21-14
                                            • 1122

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by chilidog
                                            A 6% yield doubles your money annually. With a 7.7% yield, that's a 143.55% annual return. So, a $10,000 starting bankroll in 2018 turns into $24,355 at the end of the MLB season. End of 2019 season, you have $59,316. End of 2020 season, you've turned your $10k starting roll into $144,464.

                                            It's the power of compounding. Sports bettors see that they'd have to grind out 800 MLB bets in a year for 3 years and ONLY make 176 units. They don't see what can really happen.

                                            Problem is most sports bettors are too impatient to handle the grind, so they never grow. They keep it as recreational only, and never end up making any serious money from it.
                                            Very accurate point, you'll never know if the bookies wake up or the system may loose its edge. Betting psychology is another important factor, betting 1 unit which equals 100$ should be the same as betting 1 unit as 10000$, but it never is.
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                                            • Barrakuda
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 02-28-18
                                              • 786

                                              #23
                                              What does SDB say it uses for its line source? Pinnacle closers?
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                                              • nash13
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-21-14
                                                • 1122

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Barrakuda
                                                What does SDB say it uses for its line source? Pinnacle closers?

                                                in the google groups there is no clear information.
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                                                • pilebuck13
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-15-15
                                                  • 17918

                                                  #25
                                                  So just so I’m clear because I’m dumb:
                                                  Yankees Red Sox total 8 then next day Red Sox yankees 7 total take the under? And are you going by previous closing number or open number? And if say they yankees both play a different team the next day and the total is 1 under the previous game bet the under?
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                                                  • Barrakuda
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-28-18
                                                    • 786

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by nash13
                                                    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...able-sdql.html
                                                    in the google groups there is no clear information.
                                                    Thanks. Unfortunate that their data has not been validated.
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                                                    • nash13
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-21-14
                                                      • 1122

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                      So just so I’m clear because I’m dumb:
                                                      Yankees Red Sox total 8 then next day Red Sox yankees 7 total take the under? And are you going by previous closing number or open number? And if say they yankees both play a different team the next day and the total is 1 under the previous game bet the under?
                                                      The data is not mine, i am going by the numbers sportsdatabase offers. It is easy to go there pre game and check the numbers for yesterday and today. The second question:
                                                      Team A plays Team B the night before total was 8.0
                                                      Next night they play again and if the total is 7.5 or 7.0, i would take the Under.
                                                      If Team A and B go and played different teams the night before:
                                                      Team A had night before total of 8
                                                      Team B had 8.5
                                                      then they meet each other in SG 1, if the total is 7.5 i take under, because both teams line dropped by 0.5 to 1.
                                                      if the total is 8 or 7 then there is no bet for me.
                                                      The main logic assumption here is for me that bookies are overestimating a small drop in scoring.
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                                                      • nash13
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-21-14
                                                        • 1122

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Barrakuda
                                                        Thanks. Unfortunate that their data has not been validated.
                                                        i take it like it is, and i have good success with what they offer. it is not perfect, far from for me, but for free you can not find anything better to start from.
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                                                        • Barrakuda
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-28-18
                                                          • 786

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by nash13
                                                          i take it like it is, and i have good success with what they offer. it is not perfect, far from for me, but for free you can not find anything better to start from.
                                                          In general does it seem like they are using Pinny closers?
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                                                          • aljack
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 09-08-17
                                                            • 381

                                                            #30
                                                            This system obviously works best for squares in a series of games.

                                                            So if:
                                                            Game 1 (Jays/Yankees) TOT = 8.5

                                                            Game 2 TOT = 7.5
                                                            Take the under.

                                                            Game 3 TOT = 10
                                                            Stay off.

                                                            Game 4 TOT = 8.5
                                                            take the under.

                                                            Am I right here ??

                                                            I am just trying to simplify.
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                                                            • nash13
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-21-14
                                                              • 1122

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by aljack
                                                              This system obviously works best for squares in a series of games.

                                                              So if:
                                                              Game 1 (Jays/Yankees) TOT = 8.5

                                                              Game 2 TOT = 7.5
                                                              Take the under.

                                                              Game 3 TOT = 10
                                                              Stay off.

                                                              Game 4 TOT = 8.5
                                                              take the under.

                                                              Am I right here ??

                                                              I am just trying to simplify.
                                                              In fact SG = 4 has no value over time. the value increases from 1 to 2 and 3. with 3 at most.
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                                                              • aljack
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-08-17
                                                                • 381

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by nash13
                                                                In fact SG = 4 has no value over time. the value increases from 1 to 2 and 3. with 3 at most.
                                                                Okay so, the best value in this system is in game 2 and 3 of a series.

                                                                I like that concept alot. I will forsure test this out this season.
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                                                                • aljack
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 09-08-17
                                                                  • 381

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by nash13
                                                                  The data is not mine, i am going by the numbers sportsdatabase offers. It is easy to go there pre game and check the numbers for yesterday and today. The second question:
                                                                  Team A plays Team B the night before total was 8.0
                                                                  Next night they play again and if the total is 7.5 or 7.0, i would take the Under.
                                                                  If Team A and B go and played different teams the night before:
                                                                  Team A had night before total of 8
                                                                  Team B had 8.5
                                                                  then they meet each other in SG 1, if the total is 7.5 i take under, because both teams line dropped by 0.5 to 1.
                                                                  if the total is 8 or 7 then there is no bet for me.
                                                                  The main logic assumption here is for me that bookies are overestimating a small drop in scoring.
                                                                  Just to clarify

                                                                  If the logic was that the bookies are overestimating a small drop in scoring.
                                                                  Wouldn't you take the over instead ??

                                                                  I mean, I assume if you take the under - you would be counting on the bookies underestimating a large drop in scoring ??

                                                                  Just wondering. Not disagreeing.
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                                                                  • nash13
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-21-14
                                                                    • 1122

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by aljack
                                                                    Just to clarify

                                                                    If the logic was that the bookies are overestimating a small drop in scoring.
                                                                    Wouldn't you take the over instead ??

                                                                    I mean, I assume if you take the under - you would be counting on the bookies underestimating a large drop in scoring ??

                                                                    Just wondering. Not disagreeing.
                                                                    Yes for sure, it works both ways, they are underestimating the scoring drop, they expect it to drop slowly, but it drops even more.
                                                                    I had a look of the status of the game before
                                                                    if the previous total margin was under 0 so an Under game:
                                                                    2041-2473-236 (0.10, 45.2%) avg total: 7.9 over / under: -$66,382 / +$24,289 ROI: -12.7% / +4.6%
                                                                    if the previous total margin was over 0 so an Over game:
                                                                    OU:2006-2454-247 (0.15, 45.0%) avg total: 8.0 over / under: -$69,949 / +$28,536 ROI: -13.4% / +5.5%

                                                                    so it did not matter if the previous game went over or under the total, the bookies or whoever makes the lines may have their reasons to decrease the totals. why? i don't really know
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                                                                    • A4K
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-08-12
                                                                      • 5243

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Does baseball have the most volatile totals of the 4 major sports?
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