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  • danshan11
    SBR MVP
    • 07-08-17
    • 4101

    #246
    Originally posted by oilcountry99
    Yes, I'm sure you're a winning bettor just like everyone else on theses forums. LOL. 1% of bettors win and they must all be on these forums, it's such a joke. There is never anything constructive anymore.

    you read 'martingale' and you laugh....reread the post.
    yeah there is a say 1% winners out there, but what the heck do they do? I WANT TO KNOW!!!!
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    • oilcountry99
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-29-10
      • 707

      #247
      Originally posted by danshan11
      yeah there is a say 1% winners out there, but what the heck do they do? I WANT TO KNOW!!!!
      I'm sure tsty knows
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      • Alfa1234
        SBR MVP
        • 12-19-15
        • 2722

        #248
        Originally posted by danshan11
        what is a 15% win rate? I dont know that terminology
        Winning 15% of total number of bets you placed. Say you place 100 bets in a month and win 15 of those (losing 85), your win rate is 15%.

        You can still make a profit if the odds are high enough, obviously.
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        • snapperman2
          SBR MVP
          • 08-19-10
          • 2078

          #249
          I interpret 15% win rate to mean 15% ROI. In other words he wins 15% of the total amount he wagers. So if he wagers $100 then he wins $15 on average. Needless to say that is a very high win rate if true.
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          • danshan11
            SBR MVP
            • 07-08-17
            • 4101

            #250
            that would be the highest I have ever heard of not saying its not true just saying it would be the highest I ever heard of
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            • slapshot
              SBR MVP
              • 10-27-07
              • 1194

              #251
              it's not only about picking the right team...no one can pick winners consistently and frequently...money management equally important as the picks,

              flat is doubtfully the answer for anyone....the solution is rather to experiment and simulate to develop the strategy that maximizes your winnings and minimizes your losses.

              articles at pinnacle are good reads
              What does it take to be a professional bettor?
              Staking: One method to improve your betting
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              • tsty
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-27-16
                • 510

                #252
                Originally posted by oilcountry99
                Yes, I'm sure you're a winning bettor just like everyone else on theses forums. LOL. 1% of bettors win and they must all be on these forums, it's such a joke. There is never anything constructive anymore.

                you read 'martingale' and you laugh....reread the post.
                Lol martingale
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                • tsty
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 04-27-16
                  • 510

                  #253
                  Originally posted by snapperman2
                  I interpret 15% win rate to mean 15% ROI. In other words he wins 15% of the total amount he wagers. So if he wagers $100 then he wins $15 on average. Needless to say that is a very high win rate if true.
                  That is not what he means
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                  • danshan11
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-08-17
                    • 4101

                    #254
                    Originally posted by tsty
                    That is not what he means
                    What does he mean?
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                    • tsty
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-27-16
                      • 510

                      #255
                      Originally posted by danshan11
                      What does he mean?
                      alfa already posted the answer
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                      • snapperman2
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-19-10
                        • 2078

                        #256
                        So he makes money by betting big underdogs at +600 and up. Interesting.
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                        • tsty
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 04-27-16
                          • 510

                          #257
                          Originally posted by snapperman2
                          So he makes money by betting big underdogs at +600 and up. Interesting.
                          it was an example
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                          • oilcountry99
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 08-29-10
                            • 707

                            #258
                            Originally posted by tsty
                            Lol martingale
                            That was actually funny! good one
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                            • tsty
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 04-27-16
                              • 510

                              #259
                              Originally posted by oilcountry99
                              That was actually funny! good one
                              Whats really funny is people like you not realising that each bet is independant from each other

                              Making martingale strategies based around the same team is a joke that has been disproven a long time ago

                              If you are going to chase then edge is irrelevant in the first place buy hey you do you man
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                              • snapperman2
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-19-10
                                • 2078

                                #260
                                It has been proven that if you don't have an edge on each single bet, then no betting strategy will give you an advantage. All that martingale strategy does is force you to bet more when you are losing and thus guarantee that sooner or later you will encounter a disastrous series of losses that will wipe out your bankroll entirely.
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                                • peacebyinches
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-13-10
                                  • 1112

                                  #261
                                  Originally posted by snapperman2
                                  It has been proven that if you don't have an edge on each single bet, then no betting strategy will give you an advantage. All that martingale strategy does is force you to bet more when you are losing and thus guarantee that sooner or later you will encounter a disastrous series of losses that will wipe out your bankroll entirely.
                                  Yup. How is this even being discussed as a viable strategy on here?? I thought think tank was better than that..
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                                  • oilcountry99
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-29-10
                                    • 707

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by tsty
                                    Whats really funny is people like you not realising that each bet is independant from each other

                                    Making martingale strategies based around the same team is a joke that has been disproven a long time ago

                                    If you are going to chase then edge is irrelevant in the first place buy hey you do you man
                                    I never said this.....again re-read the post.
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                                    • tsty
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 04-27-16
                                      • 510

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by snapperman2
                                      It has been proven that if you don't have an edge on each single bet, then no betting strategy will give you an advantage. All that martingale strategy does is force you to bet more when you are losing and thus guarantee that sooner or later you will encounter a disastrous series of losses that will wipe out your bankroll entirely.
                                      no shit but this clown is talking about chasing strategies

                                      if you do martingale then it's irrelevant how much edge you have

                                      i also never said the strategy works..
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                                      • oilcountry99
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-29-10
                                        • 707

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by snapperman2
                                        It has been proven that if you don't have an edge on each single bet, then no betting strategy will give you an advantage. All that martingale strategy does is force you to bet more when you are losing and thus guarantee that sooner or later you will encounter a disastrous series of losses that will wipe out your bankroll entirely.
                                        Controlled chase....the key words, you people don't read
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                                        • oilcountry99
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-29-10
                                          • 707

                                          #265
                                          I apologize for using the 'M' word and disrupting the thread and will not comment on the subject again.
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                                          • Harry N. Lloyd
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-26-08
                                            • 4810

                                            #266
                                            JJ Gold is a professional gambler and claims to be a sharp. Emulate him.
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                                            • yak merchant
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 11-04-10
                                              • 109

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by arschillig
                                              This thread blows
                                              Yup. Long slow decline since the Ganchrow days.
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