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  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63165

    #1611
    Originally posted by EmpireMaker
    Trent Grisham will need a rehab assignment before returning to the lineup, but the Padres are hopeful that their centerfielder could be back in a week or so. San Diego anticipates rehab assignments for Austin Nola and Drew Pomeranz as well, though they aren’t expected back until closer to the end of the month, per the Athletic’s Dennis Lin (via Twitter).
    Grisham’s absence, in particular, changes the dynamics of the Padres’ position player group. The Gold Glove award winner plays a strong centerfield, and in 2020, he was a multi-faceted weapon on offense: he walked at an above-average 12.3 percent clip, stole 10 bases, and provided pop with a .205 ISO. The 24-year-old has kept his foot on the gas when healthy this season, posting a 149 wRC+ in 154 plate appearances with an 11.7 percent walk rate, seven stolen bases, and a .213 ISO.
    A foot contusion landed Grisham on the injured list for the second time this season on May 24th. Jurickson Profar has seen the most playing time in Grisham’s stead, and while he’s made some impressive plays with both his arm and his glove, he does not have the same offensive potency that Grisham can provide.
    Like Grisham, Nola has a pair of stints on the injured list, but he’s missed more time in the aggregate. Nola has accounted for just 38 percent of the Padres’ playing time behind the plate this season, second behind his theoretical backup Victor Caratini. Nola brings more bat to the position with a 108 wRC+ in 59 plate appearances (versus 88 wRC+ in 138 plate appearances for Caratini).
    Pomeranz, meanwhile, is a power arm whom the Padres would like to use to supplement Tim Hill in the bullpen’s lefty cohort. With Ryan Weathers in the rotation and Pomeranz on the injured list, Hill is the sole southpaw available out of the pen right now. Before landing on the IL with lat tightness, Pomeranz had a 1.98 ERA/2.70 FIP in 13 2/3 innings over 14 appearances.
    On the whole, the Padres have been perhaps the most snake-bitten teams of the 2021 season with 842 total days accrued on the injured list, per the injury ledger from Baseball Prospectus. That mark leads the league by a fair margin – the Rays are second with 674 days missed.
    With that in mind, the Friars are sticking with a six-man rotation for the time being, per AJ Cassavell of MLB.com (via Twitter). Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, Joe Musgrove, Chris Paddack, Weathers, and Dinelson Lamet are currently all healthy and lined up to start games. As the youngest of the group, Weathers is probably the man on the bubble, though he has held his own with a 2.30 ERA/4.82 FIP in 27 1/3 innings as a starter this season.

    I like that Grisham kid
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    • d2bets
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      • 08-10-05
      • 39994

      #1612
      How about Patrick Wisdom 2 HR again today. 7 in 13 games, guy is on fire. A 29 year old rookie former first round pick.
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      • EmpireMaker
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-18-09
        • 15572

        #1613
        7:24PM: Longoria told The Athletic’s Andrew Baggarly and other reporters that he isn’t feeling pain in the shoulder itself, as his injury is specifically a dislocated SC joint. Because of the somewhat odd nature of the injury, Longoria isn’t certain about a timetable.
        1:39PM: The Giants announced that third baseman Evan Longoria has been placed on the 10-day injured list with a sprained left shoulder. He’s expected to miss four to six weeks, manager Gabe Kapler told reporters (including John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle). Utilityman Thairo Estrada has been recalled from Triple-A Sacramento in his place.
        Longoria suffered the injury when he collided with shortstop Brandon Crawford during last night’s game against the Cubs. It’s a brutal development for a Giants team holding a two-game advantage in a highly competitive NL West. Longoria has been one of the most instrumental pieces of the club’s success, putting up a .280/.376/.516 line with nine home runs over 186 plate appearances. After adjusting for pitcher-friendly Oracle Park, Longoria’s 146 wRC+ places him among the top 25 qualified hitters in the sport this season. That kind of production is reminiscent of his peak days in Tampa Bay, when Longoria was one of the game’s most valuable players.
        There’s virtually no way for the Giants to replace that kind of production, but San Francisco now seems likely to turn to some combination of Wilmer Flores, Jason Vosler and Mauricio Dubón at third base. Flores has generally been a decent hitter over the past few years. The 29-year-old is hitting a league-average .248/.328/.380 in 137 plate appearances this season.
        On the plus side, San Francisco is at least set to welcome one of their other top bats in the next few days. First baseman Brandon Belt is expected to be reinstated from the injured list during the team’s upcoming road trip, per Alex Pavlovic of NBC Sports Bay Area (Twitter link). Belt, out since May 26 with an oblique issue, has hit .228/.350/.474 over 137 trips to the plate.
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63165

          #1614
          Originally posted by EmpireMaker
          7:24PM: Longoria told The Athletic’s Andrew Baggarly and other reporters that he isn’t feeling pain in the shoulder itself, as his injury is specifically a dislocated SC joint. Because of the somewhat odd nature of the injury, Longoria isn’t certain about a timetable.
          1:39PM: The Giants announced that third baseman Evan Longoria has been placed on the 10-day injured list with a sprained left shoulder. He’s expected to miss four to six weeks, manager Gabe Kapler told reporters (including John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle). Utilityman Thairo Estrada has been recalled from Triple-A Sacramento in his place.
          Longoria suffered the injury when he collided with shortstop Brandon Crawford during last night’s game against the Cubs. It’s a brutal development for a Giants team holding a two-game advantage in a highly competitive NL West. Longoria has been one of the most instrumental pieces of the club’s success, putting up a .280/.376/.516 line with nine home runs over 186 plate appearances. After adjusting for pitcher-friendly Oracle Park, Longoria’s 146 wRC+ places him among the top 25 qualified hitters in the sport this season. That kind of production is reminiscent of his peak days in Tampa Bay, when Longoria was one of the game’s most valuable players.
          There’s virtually no way for the Giants to replace that kind of production, but San Francisco now seems likely to turn to some combination of Wilmer Flores, Jason Vosler and Mauricio Dubón at third base. Flores has generally been a decent hitter over the past few years. The 29-year-old is hitting a league-average .248/.328/.380 in 137 plate appearances this season.
          On the plus side, San Francisco is at least set to welcome one of their other top bats in the next few days. First baseman Brandon Belt is expected to be reinstated from the injured list during the team’s upcoming road trip, per Alex Pavlovic of NBC Sports Bay Area (Twitter link). Belt, out since May 26 with an oblique issue, has hit .228/.350/.474 over 137 trips to the plate.

          I don't forsee much more production out of Longoria, going forward
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
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            • 03-11-11
            • 29242

            #1615
            Originally posted by d2bets
            How about Patrick Wisdom 2 HR again today. 7 in 13 games, guy is on fire. A 29 year old rookie former first round pick.
            Maybe that will be their excuse to dump Bryant in the coming months.
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            • d2bets
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              • 08-10-05
              • 39994

              #1616
              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
              Maybe that will be their excuse to dump Bryant in the coming months.
              Dump? Wouldn't be a very good excuse. No reason you can't have both. Bryant can play anywhere on the diamond. If they decide to be serious about winning this season, obviously they can't trade Bryant.
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              • stevenash
                Moderator
                • 01-17-11
                • 65375

                #1617
                Originally posted by d2bets
                How about Patrick Wisdom 2 HR again today. 7 in 13 games, guy is on fire. A 29 year old rookie former first round pick.
                What about Boyce Cedric Mullins 5 for 5 two homer game Saturday night.
                (Brooks and Cal are the only two Orioles to have ever done that)
                Nine consecutive at bats with a base hit.

                It's Ted William's like what he's doing lately.

                Pros are saying it's remarkable, he's got perfect plate coverage, perfect eye right now taking walks, taking pitches where it's offered...
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                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                  • 03-11-11
                  • 29242

                  #1618
                  Originally posted by d2bets
                  Dump? Wouldn't be a very good excuse. No reason you can't have both. Bryant can play anywhere on the diamond. If they decide to be serious about winning this season, obviously they can't trade Bryant.
                  I predict he will get traded even if you continue to win.
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65375

                    #1619
                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                    I predict he will get traded even if you continue to win.
                    I still say the Brews are the class of that division and the White Sox are of theirs.
                    18 teams are over .500 right now, 2/3rds of all teams still have a playoff shot.
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                    • d2bets
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                      • 08-10-05
                      • 39994

                      #1620
                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                      I predict he will get traded even if you continue to win.
                      If the Cubs are in first place come mid-July, they are not going to trade Kris Bryant.
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                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                        • 03-11-11
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                        #1621
                        Originally posted by d2bets
                        If the Cubs are in first place come mid-July, they are not going to trade Kris Bryant.
                        Care to put a friendly betpoint wager on that? I say he gets traded before the season is over. Let me know if you want the other side.
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                        • stevenash
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                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65375

                          #1622
                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                          Care to put a friendly betpoint wager on that? I say he gets traded before the season is over. Let me know if you want the other side.
                          He can help an AL team more than a NL team.
                          In the AL he can DH or give you CI on defense.
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                          • d2bets
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                            • 08-10-05
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                            #1623
                            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                            Care to put a friendly betpoint wager on that? I say he gets traded before the season is over. Let me know if you want the other side.
                            Well I do think he will be traded if the Cubs fall back. So how I about this? So I'll take the bet that he won't be traded, but If he's trade while the Cubs are more than 2 games out of first then it's void. I'm just saying he won't be traded as long as the Cubs are in contention. And of course there's the July 31 deadline.
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                            • Cross
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-15-11
                              • 5777

                              #1624
                              250 points says Cubs don’t trade KB by the deadline. You want it, Peavy?
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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65375

                                #1625
                                Originally posted by Cross
                                250 points says Cubs don’t trade KB by the deadline. You want it, Peavy?
                                That's a little less than 8 weeks away.
                                50/50 he gets traded by 7/31
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                                • jrgum3
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-21-17
                                  • 7005

                                  #1626
                                  Good series starting tonight between the Cubs and the Padres. Will be interesting to see whether the Padres can turn the tables on the Cubbies after they were swept at Wrigley last week.
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                                  • Otters27
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                                    • 07-14-07
                                    • 30749

                                    #1627
                                    Originally posted by jrgum3
                                    Good series starting tonight between the Cubs and the Padres. Will be interesting to see whether the Padres can turn the tables on the Cubbies after they were swept at Wrigley last week.
                                    Watching right now. Dont trust the Cubs bats vs the padres pen
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                                    • Cross
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 04-15-11
                                      • 5777

                                      #1628
                                      Tatis looking for a golden sombrero tonight?
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                                      • stevenash
                                        Moderator
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65375

                                        #1629
                                        Originally posted by Otters27
                                        Watching right now. Dont trust the Cubs bats vs the padres pen
                                        I don’t trust many bats against that ‘pen
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                                        • EmpireMaker
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-18-09
                                          • 15572

                                          #1630
                                          Catcher Danny Jansen suffered a right hamstring strain that forced him out of Sunday’s 6-3 Blue Jays loss to the Astros. Jansen was hurt running the bases trying to beat out a fielder’s choice in the third inning, and Reese McGuire took over at catcher for the top of the fourth. Jays manager Charlie Montoyo told MLB.com’s Keegan Matheson and other reporters that Jansen would receive tests both yesterday and today to determine the extent of the strain.
                                          With Alejandro Kirk already on the 60-day injured list, losing Jansen to the IL would leave Toronto with a catching depth chart of McGuire and (in all likelihood) Riley Adams, who is hitting .250/.410/.600 over 78 plate appearances at Triple-A this season. Adams had never played at the Triple-A level prior to this season, and he doesn’t officially have any big league experience — the Blue Jays called Adams up for a three-day cup of coffee on the active roster in early May, though Adams didn’t appear in any games. While McGuire is the more experienced option, his struggles at the plate over the last two seasons would perhaps mean that McGuire and Adams would be deployed in a platoon, as the youngster’s Triple-A production certainly seems to warrant a look against Major League pitching.
                                          More from the Jays…
                                          • George Springer is making “extremely encouraging” progress in his recovery from a quad strain, GM Ross Atkins told reporters (including Matheson, TSN’s Scott Mitchell and Sportsnet’s Arden Zwelling) as part of a series of updates on injured Blue Jays players. Springer has been performing running drills over the last two days, and Atkins implied that the outfielder is “very close” to heading out on a minor league rehab assignment. This is Springer’s second quad injury of the season, and combined with those injuries and an oblique issue, the prized free agent signing has appeared in only four games in 2021.
                                          • Speaking of rehab assignments, Cavan Biggio began his assignment at Triple-A yesterday. A cervical spine ligament sprain sent Biggio to the 10-day IL on May 22, but it looks like he’ll be able to rejoin the Jays sometime this week. The injury absence has underlined an overall tough season for Biggio, who has a -0.3 fWAR through 39 games and 151 PA due to a lack of hitting (.205/.315/.315) and some defensive struggles as Toronto’s regular third baseman.
                                          • Thomas Hatch threw two scoreless innings for Triple-A Buffalo yesterday, as the right-hander resumed a rehab assignment after missing two weeks with what Atkins described as “mild tightness in his side.” Hatch is working his way back from an elbow impingement suffered during Spring Training that has kept the righty out of any Major League action this season. Hatch worked 16 of 17 games as a reliever in his 2020 rookie season, but Atkins said the team is still planning to build Hatch up as a starter.
                                          • Ryan Borucki is on the verge of beginning a throwing program, and is no longer feeling any pain in his forearm. A left flexor strain went Borucki to the injured list in mid-May, representing yet another injury setback for a southpaw who missed most of the 2019 due to elbow issues.
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                            • 03-11-11
                                            • 29242

                                            #1631
                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                            Well I do think he will be traded if the Cubs fall back. So how I about this? So I'll take the bet that he won't be traded, but If he's trade while the Cubs are more than 2 games out of first then it's void. I'm just saying he won't be traded as long as the Cubs are in contention. And of course there's the July 31 deadline.
                                            It's either a yes or no question.

                                            Originally posted by Cross
                                            250 points says Cubs don’t trade KB by the deadline. You want it, Peavy?
                                            I want the entire season, not just the trade deadline. Let me know pal.

                                            About time the Padres beat the Cubs!
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                                            • d2bets
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                                              • 08-10-05
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                                              #1632
                                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                              It's either a yes or no question.



                                              I want the entire season, not just the trade deadline. Let me know pal.

                                              About time the Padres beat the Cubs!
                                              Huh? Maybe I'm ill-informed, but I don't think he can be traded after the trade deadline. That's why it's called the trade deadline. And then he's a free agent after the season. I believe July 30 is the last day the Cubs can trade Kris Bryant. Full stop.

                                              Anyway, I'll pass because I do agree if the Cubs fall back (starting to look that way) then he will be dealt. It all depends on where the Cubs are in the standings come mid to late July. Whether or not they wave the white flag.
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                                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                • 03-11-11
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                                                #1633
                                                Ok, d2bets is out and has no faith in his Cubs.

                                                Cross, my offer is that Bryant will not be on the Cubs roster the entire regular season...confirm if you want the 250 point wager.

                                                I wouldn't mind my Padres trying to trade for him if the price is right. Maybe you guys will give him away like you did with Darvish?
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                                                • d2bets
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                                                  • 08-10-05
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                                                  #1634
                                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                  Ok, d2bets is out and has no faith in his Cubs.

                                                  Cross, my offer is that Bryant will not be on the Cubs roster the entire regular season...confirm if you want the 250 point wager.

                                                  I wouldn't mind my Padres trying to trade for him if the price is right. Maybe you guys will give him away like you did with Darvish?
                                                  I have more than zero faith but less than a lot of faith that the Cubs will be serious contenders come July 30.
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                                                  • d2bets
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                                                    • 08-10-05
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                                                    #1635
                                                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                    Ok, d2bets is out and has no faith in his Cubs.

                                                    Cross, my offer is that Bryant will not be on the Cubs roster the entire regular season...confirm if you want the 250 point wager.

                                                    I wouldn't mind my Padres trying to trade for him if the price is right. Maybe you guys will give him away like you did with Darvish?
                                                    Sneaky. If he gets hurt and goes on the injured list he would not be on the roster. That seems to be additional to your statement that he'd be traded. Did you change the terms for a reason? Just looking out for Mr. Cross.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65375

                                                      #1636
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                      Sneaky. If he gets hurt and goes on the injured list he would not be on the roster. That seems to be additional to your statement that he'd be traded. Did you change the terms for a reason? Just looking out for Mr. Cross.
                                                      That's why I haven't made bets like that in 20 years.
                                                      *Not a dig at Cross* Point being I won't make bets like that unless all terms are specified up front.
                                                      "If he doesn't get hurt", "has to have this many at bats", and so forth

                                                      If one wants to bet me in March that Trout will hit more than 40 homers but the bet is alive only if Trout has 400 or more plate appearances, that's fine, that's one thing, but when a bet has four or eight different terms, well I don't want any part of that.
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                                                      • d2bets
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                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 39994

                                                        #1637
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        That's why I haven't made bets like that in 20 years.
                                                        *Not a dig at Cross* Point being I won't make bets like that unless all terms are specified up front.
                                                        "If he doesn't get hurt", "has to have this many at bats", and so forth

                                                        If one wants to bet me in March that Trout will hit more than 40 homers but the bet is alive only if Trout has 400 or more plate appearances, that's fine, that's one thing, but when a bet has four or eight different terms, well I don't want any part of that.
                                                        I get that. Althought whether or not he's trade by the deadline is pretty clear. He can't be traded after the deadline, so I still don't get what angle jake is driving at here. Roster stuff is tricky. Is bereavement leave part of the roster? And plus I believe there is active and inactive roster 26 man and 40 man. I'd never go near that. But trade or no trade is clear, even if it's conditioned by a certain record on a certain date. Not too complex.
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                                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                          • 03-11-11
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                                                          #1638
                                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                                          I get that. Althought whether or not he's trade by the deadline is pretty clear. He can't be traded after the deadline, so I still don't get what angle jake is driving at here. Roster stuff is tricky. Is bereavement leave part of the roster? And plus I believe there is active and inactive roster 26 man and 40 man. I'd never go near that. But trade or no trade is clear, even if it's conditioned by a certain record on a certain date. Not too complex.
                                                          If you think I'm going to angle shoot a forum friend for 250 betpoints, you don't know me very well.

                                                          Players do get dealt after the trade deadline sometimes, if they clear waivers. It is unlikely but possible. No "angle" here, Jack.

                                                          Trade or no trade by the end of the regular season.
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65375

                                                            #1639
                                                            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                            If you think I'm going to angle shoot a forum friend for 250 betpoints, you don't know me very well.

                                                            Players do get dealt after the trade deadline sometimes, if they clear waivers. It is unlikely but possible. No "angle" here, Jack.

                                                            Trade or no trade by the end of the regular season.
                                                            I'm with JP here

                                                            Make the bet, if he's on the active roster as of 7/31.
                                                            Nothing else.
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                                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                              • 03-11-11
                                                              • 29242

                                                              #1640
                                                              I'm insulted with the angle shooting claim. Tell me a single time you have ever heard my name in a forum controversy, scam or otherwise...I'm waiting...
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65375

                                                                #1641
                                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                I'm insulted with the angle shooting claim. Tell me a single time you have ever heard my name in a forum controversy, scam or otherwise...I'm waiting...
                                                                He can't and I can't and I've been reading your posts for a decade now.
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                                                                • d2bets
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                                                                  • 08-10-05
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                                                                  #1642
                                                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                  If you think I'm going to angle shoot a forum friend for 250 betpoints, you don't know me very well.

                                                                  Players do get dealt after the trade deadline sometimes, if they clear waivers. It is unlikely but possible. No "angle" here, Jack.

                                                                  Trade or no trade by the end of the regular season.
                                                                  Nope. Not possible. MLB did away with trade waivers in 2019. If Bryant is on the Cubs on August 1, then he is not being traded by the Cubs this season. Period and full stop. I trust that you didn't intend to angle shoot, but the active roster stipulation did create an angle whereby he might not be on the roster for the full season not due to trade, but due to injury.


                                                                  Previously, teams could complete trades after the deadline through trade waivers. MLB did away with trade waivers last year, so now players can only change teams via free agency and waiver claims after the deadline. With no trade waivers, teams completed "trades" via waiver claims last year. The two sides agreed to a claim ahead of time and essentially made a salary dump trade.

                                                                  https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-contenders-can-still-add-help-after-trade-deadline-heres-how-and-10-players-who-could-be-on-the-move/
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                                                                  • d2bets
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                                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                                    • 39994

                                                                    #1643
                                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                    He can't and I can't and I've been reading your posts for a decade now.
                                                                    I can't and I won't. I don't get it into that nonsense and I'm not accusing. I believe that "angle" was accidental and not intentional. We're all human.
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                                                                    • JMobile
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-21-10
                                                                      • 19074

                                                                      #1644
                                                                      Red Sox are hot right now
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                                                                      • Cross
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 04-15-11
                                                                        • 5777

                                                                        #1645
                                                                        Peavy, I don’t think he is getting traded(Cubs fans will go nuts). 250 points sealed with a handshake. If he gets dealt this season, 250 points for you.
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