Byu vs Tcu

**bosterosoy** · 10-14-08, 05:22 PM

Can't see the angle here, i threw 7 units on them.

BOL

**freeVICK** · 10-14-08, 07:26 PM

go with tcu

**hawaii808** · 10-14-08, 08:07 PM

tcu is the play here

**masr** · 10-14-08, 10:29 PM

TCU secondary a lil suspect , I think Max Hall make the big plays... TCU will look like horned frogs jumping around after BYU Offense!
Got BYU pk here

**tab** · 10-14-08, 11:06 PM

TCU is the play here. Weather may be a factor in this game. Thursday's forecast for Fort Worth is showers in the morning, then clouds lingering in the afternoon. Winds North at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of 30% rain. If it rains and is windy, I like TCU more in this game. With this kind of weather, it may be difficult to pass.

BYU/TCU under 9.5 1st Qtr (+105)

**Dbldown11** · 10-14-08, 11:27 PM

I really dont see TCU as a play. I think it's gotta be BYU or no play. On a neutral field almost anyone (except for TCU fans) would say BYU is a much better all around team. Now this game is at TCU so they have a slight advantage, but BYU is still the better all around team. I dont know that someone playing at home is reason to take them in a PK situation over a superior team.

BYU has a very solid defense, against a TCU offense that is nothing special. And BYU has a pretty sick pass offense against a very run solid TCU defense. I think this has to be a BYU play, or no play at all

**sweetpete57@** · 10-15-08, 12:21 AM

I probably won't bet on this game and will try to enjoy it simply as a great football game, but there ONE ANGLE that nobody is talking about. BYU may be 2-0 on the road, but they BARELY beat a pretty awful Washington team and beat Utah St. in a stadium that probably had more BYU fans. I think home advantage may be the deciding factor and if I do bet, I'll take TCU.

**3ptplay** · 10-15-08, 01:33 PM

QB in, TCU. QB Out, BYU.
Under, read histories, both teams are killer on D, holding opponents to 17 or fewer 70% of the time.
Just my 2 cents, I am still a rookie.

**Jcoz** · 10-15-08, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by 3ptplay

QB in, TCU. QB Out, BYU.
Under, read histories, both teams are killer on D, holding opponents to 17 or fewer 70% of the time.
Just my 2 cents, I am still a rookie.

Where are you seeing Hall is out? I dont see that anywhere.

**hoopster42** · 10-15-08, 01:47 PM

tcu has lost 2 in a row to byu, in case anyone wasnt aware, tcu is a perennial mid-major power with triple digit wins most yrs, so to beat them twice really gets their attention

they have been waiting, and are relatively healthy, too much emotion on their side + at home at night on a weekday,

either bet tcu or stay away from the game

a bet on byu, even if it wins, is a bad bet going in

**maritime** · 10-15-08, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Dbldown11

I really dont see TCU as a play. I think it's gotta be BYU or no play. On a neutral field almost anyone (except for TCU fans) would say BYU is a much better all around team. Now this game is at TCU so they have a slight advantage, but BYU is still the better all around team. I dont know that someone playing at home is reason to take them in a PK situation over a superior team.

BYU has a very solid defense, against a TCU offense that is nothing special. And BYU has a pretty sick pass offense against a very run solid TCU defense. I think this has to be a BYU play, or no play at all

Just so you take note, "superior" teams generally aren't just a pick'em bet. Books would lose if that were the case. Also, explain to me why the line has moved against BYU. Are the books making it even easier for you to win with the "superior" team? I'll take TCU please.

TCU -1 at bookmaker now.

**Mic Lowrey** · 10-15-08, 11:33 PM

i took TCU - 1...

The line is throwing me off here...i would really think BYU should blow out TCU with their offense but the line is just not right...

so i'm going to go against the public on this one and take tcu

**Ralphie1412** · 10-16-08, 01:06 AM

jesus whats with the line swing? injuries? Wheres the kid who said hall is out? Im not seeing that anywhere

**l7ustin** · 10-16-08, 01:22 AM

I watched the second half of the TCU game, their offense couldnt score from mid field despite about 5 opportunities, I have to believe BYU has a better offense. TCU also got lucky that COl State QB cant throw more than 10 yards, I think it might be Matt Cassel's little brother.

**l7ustin** · 10-16-08, 01:24 AM

If you couldn't figure out by my sarcasm who I like, I am all over BYU- expect them to roll bet your house, bet your neighbors house, bet your momma's house. leave no jewelry left unbet, BYU rolls.

**starboots** · 10-16-08, 01:45 AM

I gotta pick TCU in this one. I've read to much positive stuff about TCU to dismiss it all. Plus, TCU is at home which is huge in this close of a game. For example, I know that OU would have beat Texas if they were playing in Norman.

**aknox** · 10-16-08, 02:42 AM

Just get on the over. It's a no brainer.

**l7ustin** · 10-16-08, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by aknox

Just get on the over. It's a no brainer.

It rained all day today and might rain tomorrow...

Both of these teams play great defense but I DO like the over.-just dont know about it being a no brainer.

I believe the "sharps" are betting on TCU here which scares me but hey they cant win all the time, lol.

I am a little scared at BYU's road performances but I still have to go with BYU. + Overs + Byu & Overs Parlay

**tab** · 10-16-08, 04:51 AM

I like first half to stay under 23. I like the over in the 2nd half and the game going over 45.

**crackerjack** · 10-16-08, 07:05 AM

FWIW, TCU should have lost to Colo State. We are talking Colorado State folks. CSU dropped two sure TD passes. TCU's offense looked anemic. I think both defenses are comparable. I love BYU in this spot and now they can even lose by a point and I still get a push. Not sure why all the money is coming in on TCU when we have the team with the longest winning streak in the NCAA playing...

**tab** · 10-16-08, 07:14 AM

TCU is a much better team at home. TCU averages over 200 yards rushing per game at home. TCU also plays much better defense at home. TCU has given up a total of 28 points in 3 games. One of the td's was a blocked punt by Stanford. San Diego St scored a touchdown after TCU fumbled at its own 1 yard line.

BYU's streak is going to end soon. TCU was toying around with Colorado St. Defensively, TCU shut down the rams every time they threatened to score. This happens when a good team is playing a bad team. Do not judge TCU based on their performance against the rams. TCU was looking ahead to this game tommorrow. Sometimes a bad team gets really motivated to play a good team and not vice versa.

**bumppinee** · 10-16-08, 09:26 AM

lets roll BYU backers

**EaglesPhan36** · 10-16-08, 09:31 AM

BYU ML at +105? I'm a TCU alum by the way and I think the Frogs are getting WAY too much respect here. They have to run the football on offense to be effective because the QB situation is still suspect at best be it Jackson or Dalton running the show. TCU's defense the one real team they played this year (OU) was shredded through the air. BYU does not have quite as prolific an aerial attack as OU, but it should be enough to put them up in this game if they don't turn the ball over and if TCU has to play from behind - I don't see why BYU doesn't win this.

**3ptplay** · 10-16-08, 10:15 AM

JCOX, sorry about the misunderstanding. I meant TCY QB Dalton, who is now probable. He was questionable earlier in the week. He popped 24 first downs against Stanford, so I was saying that if he was in, TCU wins. If he was out, BYU wins.

**LT Profits** · 10-16-08, 10:43 AM

TCU wins this game because of their defense and the reverse line move is another positive.

**Brock Landers** · 10-16-08, 11:08 AM

BYU is the play, they are the class of the mountain west and the game that will decide it all is BYU vs Utah in a little over a month, BOTH Teams will be undefeated coming into that game.

BYU ML!

**tab** · 10-16-08, 11:09 AM

BYU has had the weakest schedule so fair for a team ranked in the top ten. Its not their fault that both pac ten teams (wash & UCLA) are disappointments. New Mexico is better than wash and Ucla. TCU has played stanford (dominated them) and #2 Oklahoma. Any school in this conference would have gotten spanked worst by Oklahoma. BYU is lot like Boise St and Hawaii of 2007. Both of them never schedule a game against ranked opponents on the fear of losing a game. BYU you need to be like Fresno St and play anyone anywhere. BYU's schedule does not justify their ranking. After this game, BYU will drop so fast out of the rankings and will be replace by TCU. This game does matter to TCU just as much as it does to BYU.

**Mic Lowrey** · 10-16-08, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by starboots

I gotta pick TCU in this one. I've read to much positive stuff about TCU to dismiss it all. Plus, TCU is at home which is huge in this close of a game. For example, I know that OU would have beat Texas if they were playing in Norman.

You act as if they played in Austin. Thats exactly why they play in Dallas every year. So nobody has an advantage. And if your saying dallas is still closer to tx then your wrong cuz its not far from oklahoma either....

Plus i go to the shootout every year just to go beat up on OU FANS.

Just dont cry after we spank you this year in LUBBOCK.

Although i do have love for the mad scientist. He knows how to win me money.

**abc** · 10-16-08, 12:02 PM

I live in Dallas and the weather seems okay. Wind is pretty weak and it's cold, but there's no rain right now. I grabbed BYU back when it was -1, so we'll see. It just turned cold last night so we're all adjusting in the area. Nothing like going from the 90's to the 50's-60's in a few hours.

**Mic Lowrey** · 10-16-08, 12:11 PM

stupid cold fronts...

**abc** · 10-16-08, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Mic Lowrey

stupid cold fronts...

Yep, I have a feeling this might affect TCU a bit. We've been having our low to mid 90's up until last night, and this is the first time I've had to pull the sweater since Spring. It's been cold for awhile in Provo on the other hand, so they'll be more used it. It's supposed to get into the low 50's tonight and I can say for a fact that we are not used to it at all. I still see this going BYU's way.

**WileOut** · 10-16-08, 12:15 PM

TCU defense is allowing 19 yards per game on the ground. PER GAME. Oh and their defense as a whole is 1 in the nation in yards per game.

Oklahoma ran the ball 36 times on TCU and gained 25 yards. 0.7 yards per carry. Obviously TCU got burnt through the air though with 436 yards gained by Oklahoma.

I like the over except I hear its a wet field and windy? Not sure what I like then.

**EaglesPhan36** · 10-16-08, 12:20 PM

I live about an hour SW of Ft.Worth - it's neither wet nor windy. Weather will not be a factor at all.

**WileOut** · 10-16-08, 12:20 PM

Actual forecast for Fort Worth. Gametime low 60's, partly cloudy, 10% chance of rain, 5 MPH winds. Perfect throwing weather. Hasn't rained all day either.