SMU at Tulane

**rossta4i** · 09-22-08, 10:59 PM

All I know is that June Jones doesn't concentrate on defense...he thinks he can score on anybody which is pretty much his down fall. He's stubborn doesn't like to run the ball. He's maybe do a draw play on 3 and 15. His play calling is predictable, being from hawaii I can kinda pick up on his play calling. I've been watching him for the past nine years. I would fade SMU all season. I don't know much about Tulane tho. GL on what ever you decide.

**sweetpete57@** · 09-23-08, 12:34 AM

June Jones was winless in his first season with Hawaii, so even though this team does have some talent it's hard to say if they'll be able to function is his system this first year. With that said, I'm not sold on Tulane as such a big favorite so I'll probably make a small play on SMU and hope for the best.

**rossta4i** · 09-23-08, 04:34 AM

June Jone went 8-4 his first year at hawaii...you must be mistaken the year before hawaii went winless and the coach was fred von appen. June Jones led Hawaii to a bowl game that year vs oregon st and won.

The only problem between then and how is coaches know how to defend the RnS. Back in 1999 only a hand full of teams were running it. now every tom dick and harry is running it or some version of it.

**fiveteamer** · 09-23-08, 10:48 AM

Don't know much about SMU but Tulane is tough.

They seem to have a very good D.

**Doc JS** · 09-23-08, 06:46 PM

SMU is god-awful on defense...Now, I'm not sure Tulane can cover such a big number.

**LT Profits** · 09-25-08, 07:33 AM

My numbers say SMU but I can't bring myself to bet them. PASS

**Sushkillah** · 09-25-08, 07:44 AM

Alot of cappers are running with SMU, due to jones and that they are winless. Tulane is a good solid football team, reallly good when they are at home. Twoo weeks ago they lost to a good east carolina team 28-24, so i would venture to say Tulane wins this one big. On the other hand the spread is a bit high even if they are playing SMU

**fiveteamer** · 09-25-08, 08:21 AM

Tulane was very unlucky to not win against East Carolina.

Also in their last game, could have easily have won by more, I think they were 0-3 on 4th downs in pretty much red zone terroitory.

**JRS21386** · 09-25-08, 08:40 AM

Tulane will win this without a shadow of a doubt, i wouldnt touch this game...

**bumppinee** · 09-25-08, 08:45 AM

too late for me already betted on tulane to cover! Thought that # was a lil to high, and still made the bet.

**Crayzee** · 09-25-08, 10:07 AM

i dont usually bet favorites-lett alone 18 pt favorites
but tulane has played really good against really good teams
smu has been pathetic
thinking of buying the line down to -17
oh wait-then i look at the life and death struggle the giants had with cinci last week and think-maybe not such a good idea?

**TPowell** · 09-25-08, 10:33 AM

On Tulane (-17.5) as well. SMU shouldnt be bet at all this year IMO

**LT Profits** · 09-25-08, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

On Tulane (-17.5) as well. SMU shouldnt be bet at all this year IMO

Which is exactly why I passed despite my numbers favoring SMU at +17.5 or more

**xyzky** · 09-25-08, 11:00 AM

What really sucks is the fact that there are two games to bet on tonight and I cannot pull the trigger on either one!

**$$POOLCRAZY$$$$** · 09-25-08, 11:02 AM

I need Tulane -7 1/2..for 1st of my 3team teaser....how you doin!!

leaning towards oreg st.+25

**Mr Handicapable** · 09-25-08, 11:36 AM

I'm tempted by SMU team total of Over 14.5! Surely, June Jones can put up a measly 16-17 pts on Tulane! SMU was held to 7 by TCU & Texas Tech but maybe Tulane's D would be an easier nut to crack? How hard is it to score 16-17 when you throw it every play and your defense is horrible enough to make half the game garbage time! Feedback is appreciated!

**teaserpleaser** · 09-25-08, 11:55 AM

its worth a shot how a june jones offense could be held to 7 points two games in a row i have no idea. I expect some points to be put up.

**sweetpete57@** · 09-25-08, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by rossta4i

June Jone went 8-4 his first year at hawaii...you must be mistaken the year before hawaii went winless and the coach was fred von appen. June Jones led Hawaii to a bowl game that year vs oregon st and won.

The only problem between then and how is coaches know how to defend the RnS. Back in 1999 only a hand full of teams were running it. now every tom dick and harry is running it or some version of it.

I stand corrected about Jones--thanks for clearing that up. That makes Jones' '99 campaign even more remarkable! So now there's no excuse for SMU sucking so bad. I'm probably playing both 'dogs tonight for no other reason than my original instinct was to bet on Tulane and USC, and I'm fading myself on thursday games now.

**big joe 1212** · 09-25-08, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by $$POOLCRAZY$$$$

I need Tulane -7 1/2..for 1st of my 3team teaser....how you doin!!

leaning towards oreg st.+25

Thats a dumb teaser bet in my opinion. Why would you tease down to 7.5? They win by a TD and you lose!

I tease down to 6.5, 2.5, or up to 3.5, 7.5!

**teaserpleaser** · 09-25-08, 12:49 PM

Anybody else leaning towards the over 49 here??

**St.Aquinas** · 09-25-08, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by tab

SMU +17
SMU +9 (h)
SMU +4 (q)

Leaning towards SMU in thursday game at TUlane. I do not know much about either team. Does anyone know about these schools.

Tulane won big for my last week. Now, I'm on SMU this week with the points +18.5!

**wanabet** · 09-25-08, 12:59 PM

Take the dogs tonight and roll money to the bank in the morning.

**Masu485** · 09-25-08, 01:35 PM

I've got SMU +17.5. My only play of the day! Trying to keep my little streak going.

**Beat up the book** · 09-25-08, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by teaserpleaser

Anybody else leaning towards the over 49 here??

I am.Tulane should'nt have any trouble putting up points on what SMU calls defense.I think if Smu gets two or more touchdowns Tulane will get the rest of the points we need.
GL.

**crackerjack** · 09-25-08, 02:39 PM

Tulane has the ability to shut out SMU. I think this game is a pass...

**manofmyth** · 09-25-08, 02:42 PM

I'm with the over as well. Like Rossta41, I'm in Hawaii as well. SMU has a freshman QB. And watching Junes here in Hawaii his playbook is thicker than the yellowpages. The kid QB cannot process all that info and put that on the field week in and week out. Jones didn't open up the playbook for Brennan until halfway through his second year in 2006. Georgia exploited Jones's system. Set your D-line in wide splits and rush the DE's hard upfield to collapse the pocket. He has no playmakers, he acquired the old squad and doesn't have the recruits yet. ECU beat Tulane narrowly because that was a letdown game for ECU. 2 wins against shady ranked opponents, flying high with a ranking, that was definetly a letdown game for them. Then they were brought back to reality with the loss at NC ST.

One thing to remember about Jones. His games drag on forever!! Thus making the over the better bet, gives more time for both offenses, well in this case Tulane, to have more time on the clock when they get the ball. I mean c'mon, if SMU were to throw on all 3 downs and have incomplete passes each time, that only takes no more than 2 minutes off the clock. Punt, time stops after change of possesion. See where I'm going with this. Even if Tulane runs the ball down SMU's throat, they'll stll be stopping the clock to move the chains. SMU's defense gives up 530 ypg, 223 of that on the ground, and the offense only averages a little over 22pts a game?! While they're averaging 45pts against. That's an average of 67+ pts anytime SMU walks onto the field.

Leave the USC/Ore St game alone and take the over for a cushion this weekend.

3 units on the over for me. BOL all

**Beat up the book** · 09-25-08, 02:52 PM

Yup, all that throwing and Tulane could get some tasty picks,some good feild poss. and points off of turnovers also.

**artie81** · 09-25-08, 03:52 PM

Tulane is the way to go they will hold Smu under 14 pts and put up at least 40 points on SMU.

**JRS21386** · 09-25-08, 03:53 PM

So basically stay away from the over, and go spread with Tulane?

**hoopster42** · 09-25-08, 03:54 PM

betting on smu is like betting on a cockroach, they are absolutely horrible this yr

**artie81** · 09-25-08, 04:01 PM

SMU has awful defense and offense, while Tulane has above avg defense and decent offense, I would lean toward Tulane rather than over.
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**artie81** · 09-25-08, 04:01 PM

darn that didnt come out way i wanted sorry guys

**artie81** · 09-25-08, 04:07 PM

SMU defense giving up 531 yards a game while Tulane only 223 yards. Tulane offense avg 362 yards a game. Tulane has played against ECarolina and Alabama. This game has the making of a 28pt blowout

**teaserpleaser** · 09-25-08, 04:09 PM

Im on the over i didnt realize that Tulane has good special teams and have had some special teams TD's I expect Smu to get around 21 points this week. Tulane might score 40 though. SMU has the worst defense i've seen in some time. Tulanes d should set up some short fields for their offense