Ex Pro & Bookie Friday

[LocksmithSports]

Up 2 dimes. 1-0.

At least 1 play for Friday. Stay tuned.

1 dime - Rutgers +1

Iowa State had trouble scoring in the Big 12 and were a turnover machine. Wait till they play this Rutgers D in NY.

-Locksmith

[LocksmithSports]

2 dimes - Wake Forest +7 (bought the 0.5 point)

SEC Teams are 1-5 straight up in bowl games before New Year's last 2 years. Tanner Price can sling it and Jim Grobe is a good coach. Watch for moneyline.

[Serbone]

You used to be a bookie and a pro?

[LocksmithSports]

Part of a betting syndicate in Vegas that sold plays to tourists that wanted good advice on what to play while they were visiting. Did that for about 3 years and then booked bets for 4, and still take a few from some of the guys I became close with

[Ch Br]

2 dimes - Wake Forest +7 (bought the 0.5 point)

SEC Teams are 1-5 straight up in bowl games before New Year's last 2 years. Tanner Price can sling it and Jim Grobe is a good coach. Watch for moneyline.

so basically your whole argument is predicated upon past years and teams????

[Joe_Shabadoo]

With you here. I have this as a 3-pt. win for MSU, but I like WF to win straight up.

What do you think of Iowa doing the same for Norm Parker tonight? I have it at 17 for OU, but I'm going with my gut here. I've been reading a lot about acrimony within the OU program, and I just don't see where the motivation is for this overrated Sooner defense.

I might just go small with a greedy parlay:

- Wake Forest (+230)
- Iowa (+400)
- Overeem (-150)

[balls2wall]

I have this as a 3-pt. win for MSU, but I like WF to win straight up.

[Joe_Shabadoo]

A 3-pt. spread, that is. What I mean is that I'm going against my own calculated number.

[LocksmithSports]

so basically your whole argument is predicated upon past years and teams????

No, just what I decided to write. I could break the game down for days like all of the games I wager on. A few other quick notes:

Instability at QB position of Miss State, and underrated QB Tanner Price, Miss State didn't see many good QBs, Wake Forest fundamentally sound defense/well coached will be disciplined vs the spread, Miss State struggles to throw the ball. Bla bla bla.

[dfish]

No, just what I decided to write. I could break the game down for days like all of the games I wager on. A few other quick notes:

Instability at QB position of Miss State, and underrated QB Tanner Price, Miss State didn't see many good QBs, Wake Forest fundamentally sound defense/well coached will be disciplined vs the spread, Miss State struggles to throw the ball. Bla bla bla.

Quick ?
How many SEC teams would Price start for ?
Half ?

[dfish]

Part of a betting syndicate in Vegas that sold plays to tourists that wanted good advice on what to play while they were visiting. Did that for about 3 years and then booked bets for 4, and still take a few from some of the guys I became close with

OK so guys in Hawian shirts show up @ Ceasers and pay for picks ?
Or did you walk them to the loose machines ?

[Joe_Shabadoo]

..... Wake Forest fundamentally sound defense/well coached will be disciplined vs the spread, Miss State struggles to throw the ball. Bla bla bla.

The past performances against Navy and Georgia Tech since '07 have impressed me with respect to how Wake handles veer concepts. Dan Mullen's take on the spread is more similar to Paul Johnson/Irvin Jasper iterations than one would expect even though it's almost entirely out of the 'gun, with zero-to-nill pistol concepts to speak of as well.

[dfish]

The past performances against Navy and Georgia Tech since '07 have impressed me with respect to how Wake handles veer concepts. Dan Mullen's take on the spread is more similar to Paul Johnson/Irvin Jasper iterations than one would expect even though it's almost entirely out of the 'gun, with zero-to-nill pistol concepts to speak of as well.

Good Stuff
However Miss State O is not even close to PJs option

[LocksmithSports]

Nickel - Oklahoma -13.5

Iowa can't keep up as their defense is not the same as year's past and the suspension to Coker is a dagger in a game where they need to control the clock. Landry struggled down the stretch without Broyles, but will fare much better with some time off to adjust and will have a lead to play with vs an Iowa D that hasn't been tested yet by an O like this. Oklahoma has had 3 weeks to sit around and listen to how bad they are after their blowout loss to OKST. Will be pumped to silence the critics.

[LocksmithSports]

Quick ?
How many SEC teams would Price start for ?
Half ?

Hard to say because he wouldn't fit a lot of spread option systems or systems that like running QBs like Miss St, Ole Miss, etc.

[LocksmithSports]

OK so guys in Hawian shirts show up @ Ceasers and pay for picks ?
Or did you walk them to the loose machines ?

We had a lot of marketing, under the table tips for referrals, in with a few travel agencies, web presence, but the biggest was word of mouth.

[dfish]

So you are giving out picks on internet forums now ?
You know Wake is a loser right?

[Joe_Shabadoo]

Good Stuff
However Miss State O is not even close to PJs option

The veer concepts are damn-near close to it as the quarterback looks for the 'if-then', 'go to 4-on-3' contingency that one sees with the interior game of the flexbone. It's just out of the shotgun when Mullen runs his inside game.

[Joe_Shabadoo]

Nickel - Oklahoma -13.5

Iowa can't keep up as their defense is not the same as year's past and the suspension to Coker is a dagger in a game where they need to control the clock. Landry struggled down the stretch without Broyles, but will fare much better with some time off to adjust and will have a lead to play with vs an Iowa D that hasn't been tested yet by an O like this. Oklahoma has had 3 weeks to sit around and listen to how bad they are after their blowout loss to OKST. Will be pumped to silence the critics.

Totally agree with you, but I'm going with a baseless gut call here, presupposing that Iowa is just going to want this game more.

I think that VanDenBerg is going to be allowed to go no-huddle in this game, and I hope that he'll perform like he's done in the small sample size that I've seen of him in that situation. Coker is good, but I think that the IU backfield will go as their O-line does. That seems like a truism, but, yeah, Coker wasn't the whole team.

I don't know if Roy Finch will be playing tonight, and I'll be fading 'Lance' Jones as well as a defense that Venables appears to have lost recently with his bullshit.

Good luck with your play.

[dfish]

The veer concepts are damn-near close to it as the quarterback looks for the 'if-then', 'go to 4-on-3' contingency that one sees with the interior game of the flexbone. It's just out of the shotgun when Mullen runs his inside game.

No doubt the read is the same
What i am saying is Johnson has it down.
Dude I remember when he was @Navy that offense was incredible.
Game has changed so much but that was good footbal.

[Joe_Shabadoo]

No doubt the read is the same
What i am saying is Johnson has it down.
Dude I remember when he was @Navy that offense was incredible.
Game has changed so much but that was good footbal.

The problem with CPJ right now is that he trying too hard to stick with Tevin Washington IMO. That kid is always putting the offense off schedule. Kaipo and Nesbitt always made those 'special' 3-5 yd. plays that kept the offense humming.

I thought that he would've taken the redshirt off of Vad Lee, but I guess I'm not going to question his decision.

[ron8698]

Let`s get this one Locksmith
Box`s spirit will inspire Sooners
Happy New Year

[dfish]

The problem with CPJ right now is that he trying too hard to stick with Tevin Washington IMO. That kid is always putting the offense off schedule. Kaipo and Nesbitt always made those 'special' 3-5 yd. plays that kept the offense humming.

I thought that he would've taken the redshirt off of Vad Lee, but I guess I'm not going to question his decision.

Kaipo was the one .
Thing about Nesbit he thougt he was a a passing QB in the wrong offense.
With him third and long was bring on the punt team.

[Joe_Shabadoo]

Kaipo was the one .
Thing about Nesbit he thougt he was a a passing QB in the wrong offense.
With him third and long was bring on the punt team.

Or it was a 40-yarder to Demaryius Thomas.....

I was talking about those plays where the QB really needed to be the point guard out there and make huge decisions on 3rd-&-6 to 4th-&-3. Nesbitt was a good soldier and put a licking on some defenders that probably weren't expecting it. He took what he should have and moved the chains.

Washington is just too timid for my taste, and that's why I'll be on Utah tomorrow.

[dfish]

Or it was a 40-yarder to Demaryius Thomas.....

I was talking about those plays where the QB really needed to be the point guard out there and make huge decisions on 3rd-&-6 to 4th-&-3. Nesbitt was a good soldier and put a licking on some defenders that probably weren't expecting it. He took what he should have and moved the chains.

Washington is just too timid for my taste, and that's why I'll be on Utah tomorrow.

Good stuff
No play for me
GL

[In2WinCubbies]

Good Bet Locksmith.....Not gonna to touch the line on this Iowa game, waiting for second half to see how these Offenses play without some of their top players.

[LocksmithSports]

So you are giving out picks on internet forums now ?
You know Wake is a loser right?

Yes, I enjoy interacting and talking football still so I share my plays on internet forums now instead of smokey casinos.

I was unaware Wake was a loser, my account says Winner?

I would imagine that on the internet the savvy is the same in real life. You don't walk up to a man and tell him his bet is a loser in a casino while the game is being played, and I'm sure that applies to message boards, too.

[Dogball]

Yes, I enjoy interacting and talking football still so I share my plays on internet forums now instead of smokey casinos.



Bingo
I was unaware Wake was a loser, my account says Winner?

I would imagine that on the internet the savvy is the same in real life. You don't walk up to a man and tell him his bet is a loser in a casino while the game is being played, and I'm sure that applies to message boards, too.

Bingo. Great work

[ron8698]

Amazing

[visualrealism]

You are a generous man. Please ignore that dfish hater.

[19th Hole]

What the hell....
A bolt of lightning just hit
SBR and the lights are still on
but I'm not sure if anyone's home....

[Ch Br]

I would imagine that on the internet the savvy is the same in real life. You don't walk up to a man and tell him his bet is a loser in a casino while the game is being played, and I'm sure that applies to message boards, too.

Yes, that is pretty much the standard.

But 'chance has it' that people on the internet seem to either A) forget they are talking to other people or B) Use the internet to assert the power they lack in real life, thus not exercising much of decency that i can, almost 95% of the time, predict they would be too pussy to do if it were real life

[figue]

[Pin Fish]

Yes, I enjoy interacting and talking football still so I share my plays on internet forums now instead of smokey casinos.

I was unaware Wake was a loser, my account says Winner?

I would imagine that on the internet the savvy is the same in real life. You don't walk up to a man and tell him his bet is a loser in a casino while the game is being played, and I'm sure that applies to message boards, too.

Realize that you are dealing with many High School kids and punks just wiping their butt's in college............so the word man/adult does not often apply here........

[polo_u]

Hey locksmith, congrats on your plays. I was already on MSU so I lost that one but won OU.
Had a little on the under too.
Good Luck today.