Oklahoma/Oklahoma State -3 1/2

[Ambition]

Oklahoma State is favored in this one by -3 1/2 and a little surprised. Anyone see Oklahoma taking this one? I think Oklahoma is the better team even though they have lost twice. Thoughts?

[HumanCentipede]

I think Oklahoma is going to get spanked. OSU is coming off a bye, at home, after a tough loss. Also, they have more to play for than Oklahoma as they have an outside shot of still making the BCS Championship game against LSU if they torch Oklahoma. The safest play is the over but OK State -3.5 is very attractive as well.

[Big Bear]

Oklahoma's best player Broyles is out for this game.

[Scuba Gooding Jr]

Oklahoma's best player Broyles is out for this game.

He's missed the last two and was ruled out for the season during the second half on the TXAM game, where ya been ?

[sandman0713]

I think Oklahoma is going to get spanked. OSU is coming off a bye, at home, after a tough loss. Also, they have more to play for than Oklahoma as they have an outside shot of still making the BCS Championship game against LSU if they torch Oklahoma. The safest play is the over but OK State -3.5 is very attractive as well.

the over is safe? see i heard 80% chance of rain\freezing rain and kind of windy. not saying the over can't hit...but you need to know it will be ugly.

[suicidekings]

Even if the weather isn't rainy for the game itself, it will be cold. The loss of Broyles has a huge impact on how the Oklahoma offense operates, and facing such an opportunistic defense without your best WR probably means more controlled passing and more running the ball. I feel like this is the kind of game that could start out with both teams trying to control the ball and dictate pace, but as soon as the first big play happens, it will be on.

I think I like Oklahoma here, on the ML.

[Big Bear]

He's missed the last two and was ruled out for the season during the second half on the TXAM game, where ya been ?

i'm just saying without Broyles Oklahoma is nothing.

[sandman0713]

i'm just saying without Broyles Oklahoma is nothing.

i don't think i would quite put it like that man...lol. loss of broyles and whaley and lewis mean a lot to this team when added together tho. also a qb that is bad on the road against a d that somehow manages to take the ball away so often. the oklahoma o hasn't looked the same since whaley went out to be honest. i think the loss of broyles hurts in the sense that now d's gameplan to take stills out, and now ou is counting on their 3rd and 4th best wrs to make the big plays. weather throws a new spin on it if it comes in the way people are thinking it will...and i honestly can't call it. under for me.

[soonerfan]

OU's secondary is horrible. Weeden's gonna torch them.

[Big Bear]

Justin Blackmon will be the difference

[Gmanpoke]

I don't think Blackmon will be the difference. This game comes down to how well Oklahoma State's offensive line protects Weeden. I don't think the weather will effect Oklahoma State's offense. The passing game is short crossing routes, swing passes to the running back, screens, and fade routes to Blackmon. They really don't throw the ball deep. Much easier to be effective in poor weather conditions with their style of passing game.

Oklahoma State already demonstrated they could be effective in high winds when they played Texas Tech. They were less effective against K-State and Iowa State because these teams put more pressure on Weeden. He is a pocket passer and does not do well when he has to move.

Oklahoma will turn up the pressure. If the offensive line can hold them off, there will be many opportunities. And, this could get out of hand.

Oklahoma will score, but they seem to struggle in the red zone. More effective within the 5 yard line with Bell at quarter back. However, Oklahoma State's defense seems to be more effective defending the red zone. If Oklahoma State can hold Oklahoma to a few field goals and If the offensive line can protect Weeden, Oklahoma State may have a real advantage.

On the way home tonight, the local radio sports channel said one of Oklahoma's starting D-lineman was hurt (shoulder). If this is true, Oklahoma may have to blitz more, which could create more opportunities.

[sandman0713]

I don't think Blackmon will be the difference. This game comes down to how well Oklahoma State's offensive line protects Weeden. I don't think the weather will effect Oklahoma State's offense. The passing game is short crossing routes, swing passes to the running back, screens, and fade routes to Blackmon. They really don't throw the ball deep. Much easier to be effective in poor weather conditions with their style of passing game.

Oklahoma State already demonstrated they could be effective in high winds when they played Texas Tech. They were less effective against K-State and Iowa State because these teams put more pressure on Weeden. He is a pocket passer and does not do well when he has to move.

Oklahoma will turn up the pressure. If the offensive line can hold them off, there will be many opportunities. And, this could get out of hand.

Oklahoma will score, but they seem to struggle in the red zone. More effective within the 5 yard line with Bell at quarter back. However, Oklahoma State's defense seems to be more effective defending the red zone. If Oklahoma State can hold Oklahoma to a few field goals and If the offensive line can protect Weeden, Oklahoma State may have a real advantage.

On the way home tonight, the local radio sports channel said one of Oklahoma's starting D-lineman was hurt (shoulder). If this is true, Oklahoma may have to blitz more, which could create more opportunities.

you don't think 30mph winds and possible freezing rain will slow us down? also our field is one of the few in the nation east\west. really messed up playing there when it is windy, and i know because i played there...tho only in high school. ball control game, whether if by running or short passes. the only way it goes over 74 is if the d's just totally fall apart. the ou deep secondary has been the huge problem...we won't be exploiting that in rain and 30mph winds. both d's should be more than capable of swarming the short stuff without the threat of the deep ball. i am wrong in big 12 sometimes...but the under looks easy unless the forecast changes. 28-24 type game tops. no way either running game is good enough right now to hold off a d not worried about the deep ball imo. look at the iowa state game last week to see what these conditions will do to the oklahoma o...tho this will be worse conditions. anyways...gl with whatever guys. under for me.

[nj1035]

I like Oklahoma in this game. They're the better team even with the injuries. Also they have a huge psychological edge over OSU because they beat them so much. I know it sounds silly but sometimes it's tough to overcome that kind of thing.

[Gmanpoke]

you don't think 30mph winds and possible freezing rain will slow us down? also our field is one of the few in the nation east\west. really messed up playing there when it is windy, and i know because i played there...tho only in high school. ball control game, whether if by running or short passes. the only way it goes over 74 is if the d's just totally fall apart. the ou deep secondary has been the huge problem...we won't be exploiting that in rain and 30mph winds. both d's should be more than capable of swarming the short stuff without the threat of the deep ball. i am wrong in big 12 sometimes...but the under looks easy unless the forecast changes. 28-24 type game tops. no way either running game is good enough right now to hold off a d not worried about the deep ball imo. look at the iowa state game last week to see what these conditions will do to the oklahoma o...tho this will be worse conditions. anyways...gl with whatever guys. under for me.

I'm not saying the over is the play or not. I was talking about where I though the difference in the game was. If you are sold on the under, place your bet. You don't need to convince anyone but yourself. Why do people need to have others tag along to feel good about a bet. If its as poor of weather conditions as some are suggesting, the under maybe a good bet. But, if you have lived in Oklahoma as long as I have (all my life and I'm an old man), then you know weathermen get it wrong more than they get right. At least I would not bet on the weathermen.

As far as 30mph winds, OSU has already proven their passing game can be effective in high winds. Weeden will be accurate with 5 to 8 yard passes even in 30mph winds. If you are only throwing a short distance, high winds really doesn't effect accuracy. Rain could have an effect, but I believe concentration or the lack thereof has more to do with dropped balls than the weather. Weeden will not have problems gripping a wet ball and throwing it 5 to 8 yards.

I really don't think OSU will be exploiting OU's safeties deep even if its sunny and 70. That's not what they do. Why would someone build an offense to perform a certain way, be highly effective with it, and then change in the last regular season game. Especially when the last game is for the conference title. Now, if OSU is down 21 late in the 3rd, yea probable throwing deep. But, they are not very good at that. Go back a look at previous games. Most of OSU's long passes are really underneath throws with great down field blocking.

[sandman0713]

I'm not saying the over is the play or not. I was talking about where I though the difference in the game was. If you are sold on the under, place your bet. You don't need to convince anyone but yourself. Why do people need to have others tag along to feel good about a bet. If its as poor of weather conditions as some are suggesting, the under maybe a good bet. But, if you have lived in Oklahoma as long as I have (all my life and I'm an old man), then you know weathermen get it wrong more than they get right. At least I would not bet on the weathermen.

As far as 30mph winds, OSU has already proven their passing game can be effective in high winds. Weeden will be accurate with 5 to 8 yard passes even in 30mph winds. If you are only throwing a short distance, high winds really doesn't effect accuracy. Rain could have an effect, but I believe concentration or the lack thereof has more to do with dropped balls than the weather. Weeden will not have problems gripping a wet ball and throwing it 5 to 8 yards.

I really don't think OSU will be exploiting OU's safeties deep even if its sunny and 70. That's not what they do. Why would someone build an offense to perform a certain way, be highly effective with it, and then change in the last regular season game. Especially when the last game is for the conference title. Now, if OSU is down 21 late in the 3rd, yea probable throwing deep. But, they are not very good at that. Go back a look at previous games. Most of OSU's long passes are really underneath throws with great down field blocking.

what are you doing?...pumping the ostate spread as the correct play, right? it is a forum dedicated to gambling, and i believe a lot of us are here to either give info we feel is important to placing a bet, or find info from others who may know more about a certain matchup than we do. wasn't calling you a liar...just asking you a ******* question. the thread was created i believe to generate talk and debate about the bedlam game, and what people feel is the correct bet.

[repski]

oklshoma has struggled horribly against good passing teams....ie TT,Baylor and I think state is better than both those. Throw in an extra week to prepare. Weather not withstanding OK State by 10

[robinhood]

Landry loves to throw interceptions. OSU loves to create turnovers.