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  • jameski999
    SBR MVP
    • 10-17-11
    • 1540

    #176
    That's what I thought at first but wasn't sure. John wanted the link so I just posted it for him
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    • John Ryan
      SBR MVP
      • 11-20-10
      • 2428

      #177
      Hey folks.. Take the UNDER for a 5* play.
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      • John Ryan
        SBR MVP
        • 11-20-10
        • 2428

        #178
        Just heard that K-State has additional issues/injuries/dings/sprains on the defensive front, which means that Arkansas will run the ball far more than their season average. Good Luck!

        Will be back at Half-time for another play.
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        • John Ryan
          SBR MVP
          • 11-20-10
          • 2428

          #179
          BoDog had it listed still at 67 -105... most though are 65 1/2 and 65.. We'll use 65 1/2 as the line for this play to fair to all. BUT 67 is an awesome number in my opinion.
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          • jameski999
            SBR MVP
            • 10-17-11
            • 1540

            #180
            Sick call on Ark coming out running the ball don't think anybody saw that coming
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            • John Ryan
              SBR MVP
              • 11-20-10
              • 2428

              #181
              Originally posted by jameski999
              Sick call on Ark coming out running the ball don't think anybody saw that coming
              Thank you.. not all that sick.. just information is the most powerful commodity in this world.
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              • jameski999
                SBR MVP
                • 10-17-11
                • 1540

                #182
                U like anything today in this Pitt game John?
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                • John Ryan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-20-10
                  • 2428

                  #183
                  Nothing today at ll in the SMU/Pitt game.. Perhaps a slight lean on SMU, but nothing serious. Thanks again for all your support this season. The big one comes up Monday and you already have the link for the 20* Titan play on Alabama and 5* 'over' play.

                  Let's start discussing the BCS Championship game.
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                  • Looking4Winners
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-21-11
                    • 1198

                    #184
                    Originally posted by John Ryan
                    Nothing today at ll in the SMU/Pitt game.. Perhaps a slight lean on SMU, but nothing serious. Thanks again for all your support this season. The big one comes up Monday and you already have the link for the 20* Titan play on Alabama and 5* 'over' play.

                    Let's start discussing the BCS Championship game.
                    fyi...

                    John's write-ups: http://www.sbrforum.com/college-foot...total-a-22740/

                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
                    Last edited by Looking4Winners; 01-07-12, 01:31 PM.
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                    • rory borealis
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 07-30-06
                      • 122

                      #185
                      Originally posted by Jasper11
                      I came late to this whole thing. The first one I took was Cal-Texas under which was a winner. Just want to thank John for doing this. It is hardly an exact science,and no one is forced to follow John,so I don't get the sharp criticism. If you think you can do better create a thread. Thanks again John. I can see you have lots of people following you so don't disappear.

                      I totally agree.

                      The late Mort Olshan of The Gold Sheet stated back in the late 1980s that perhaps 50% of all NFL and NCAA FB games were decided by factors outside the realm of "handicapping skill".

                      late interception
                      muffed punt

                      So out of 100 games, Olshan pointed out that the handicapper would be forced to start off at 25 wins - 25 losses

                      So to hit 57% overall, the handicapping expertise must be able to hit 67% on the remaining 50 games



                      We just witnessed a huge turnaround in one of the bowl games where a fumble at the two-yard line resulted in the defense returning it 98 yards for a touchdown... prior to that we had a 68-yard run for a touchdown.

                      Game-time events superimposed themselves on any handicapping expertise that may have existed prior to the game's start.

                      The question for following/tailing any handicapper is:

                      1) Are they better than 52.4% proficient overall at picking winners?
                      2) If "yes"... then how do sound money management principles come into play which affect bet/wager size as a percentage of bankroll.

                      Be safe... I'd figure that John may be 53.5 % proficient so I'm going to wager 53.5 - (46.5/.91) = 2.4% of my bankroll on his plays (divide your bankroll into 42 equal "wagering" portions)

                      Now John Ryan's proficiency may currently be better than 53.5%...

                      ...he might be UNLUCKY and be actually better than what his current % proficiency is...

                      ..or he may be LUCKY and we can expect a "reversion to the mean".

                      So some of those who are following his picks may wish to chime on on how proficient they've observed him to be...

                      I note that John sometimes posts his database's record ATS so maybe some who have followed him could give us an idea as to what that translates to as his advantage.

                      ...but what should be first & foremost in all of our minds, is that he is committing to the "energy expense" and use of his available free time to help the less capable handicappers here enjoy some measure of handicapping success....

                      Thank you, John

                      ...and thanks to any informed posters who might want to suggest whether I should slightly raise or lower my bet size based upon your observations and the formula above
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                      • stone cold locks
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 11-19-11
                        • 181

                        #186
                        waiting on the *20 graded play for tonights game!!
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                        • jbizzle
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-22-09
                          • 226

                          #187
                          Thank you John for all your hard work and time spent on your picks. Your perspective and insight with handicapping is educational and enjoyable to have! What percentage of a bankroll would you recommend using for your 5* unit plays?
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                          • jjaycuny
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-01-11
                            • 1617

                            #188
                            Originally posted by stone cold locks
                            waiting on the *20 graded play for tonights game!!
                            Didn't he already release it? Alabama ATS?
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                            • RAK
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 11-29-10
                              • 237

                              #189
                              Originally posted by jjaycuny
                              Didn't he already release it? Alabama ATS?
                              Originally Posted by John Ryan
                              Nothing today at ll in the SMU/Pitt game.. Perhaps a slight lean on SMU, but nothing serious. Thanks again for all your support this season. The big one comes up Monday and you already have the link for the 20* Titan play on Alabama and 5* 'over' play.

                              Let's start discussing the BCS Championship game.

                              Yeah, in the post above he says "20* Titan play on Alabama and 5* 'over' play"
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                              • soonerstud7804
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 10-17-10
                                • 446

                                #190
                                i don't see that post
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                                • fecgp40
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-01-11
                                  • 5750

                                  #191
                                  I don't think he posted it here. I think it's on the front page of the SBR picks section.
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                                  • fecgp40
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-01-11
                                    • 5750

                                    #192
                                    John's article on the total states it's a 10* play, but here and in his article picking Alabama ATS he says it's a 5* play. Can you clarify John? Thanks.
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                                    • mikea33
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-14-11
                                      • 2149

                                      #193
                                      John let us know your pick. I'm interested. I dont understand how this is a 20* play in an absolute crapshoot of a game, but hey....i'd love to hear your insight.
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                                      • jjaycuny
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-01-11
                                        • 1617

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by fecgp40
                                        John's article on the total states it's a 10* play, but here and in his article picking Alabama ATS he says it's a 5* play. Can you clarify John? Thanks.
                                        No he has it listed as a 20*

                                        "John Ryan has a 20 * graded play on Alabama as they take on LSU in the BCS Championship game. He has also recorded a podcast for the game and thank you message to all those that contributed to his thread and analysis."

                                        Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                        • mikea33
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-14-11
                                          • 2149

                                          #195
                                          Sorry but I understand how someone can be on Alabama, I was early on.......but a 20* play on this game beats me.
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                                          • balls2wall
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-20-09
                                            • 2642

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by soonerstud7804
                                            i don't see that post


                                            It's post #183 a few up on this page
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                                            • Sacdaddy05
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-06-11
                                              • 189

                                              #197
                                              how do u put a 20* play out for 2 teams so equal?
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                                              • 06Ech0
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 11-27-11
                                                • 161

                                                #198
                                                Fade Time
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                                                • fecgp40
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-01-11
                                                  • 5750

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by jjaycuny
                                                  No he has it listed as a 20* "John Ryan has a 20 * graded play on Alabama as they take on LSU in the BCS Championship game. He has also recorded a podcast for the game and thank you message to all those that contributed to his thread and analysis." http://www.sbrforum.com/college-foot...abama-a-22813/
                                                  Sorry, I guess I wasn't very clear the way I wrote my statement. John's pick ATS is definitely a 20* play. I understand that. Where I'm confused is his pick on the total. In the article itself he writes his pick is a 10* play, but in one post on this thread and in the article he wrote for the ATS pick, he states it is a 5* play. Just wondering which one is correct.
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                                                  • mikea33
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-14-11
                                                    • 2149

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by 06Ech0
                                                    Fade Time
                                                    Originally posted by Sacdaddy05
                                                    how do u put a 20* play out for 2 teams so equal?
                                                    Agree here guys. Sorry John.
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                                                    • fecgp40
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-01-11
                                                      • 5750

                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by mikea33
                                                      Agree here guys. Sorry John.
                                                      I guess we'll see. I think a lot of high rollers are on Bama... I'll side with them.
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                                                      • John Ryan
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-20-10
                                                        • 2428

                                                        #202
                                                        yes, just to clarify since the articles have been out for about a week. 20* Alabama... and 5* 'Over' Alabama line has steadily risen, but BoDog still has it it pick -120.. I will lay the wood. The 'over' is getting support as well late.. I was able to 40 personally, but is currentty at 41 1/2 -110.
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                                                        • mikea33
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-14-11
                                                          • 2149

                                                          #203
                                                          John I know your all over Bama. but i dont see this teaser losing.

                                                          LSU +9.5
                                                          Baltimore ravens -1
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                                                          • justwinthisone
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-27-10
                                                            • 1604

                                                            #204
                                                            John do u like over 2nd half after watching 1st half? It's a bargain if u liked 40 for game
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                                                            • rnoutlaw21
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-09-11
                                                              • 107

                                                              #205
                                                              Great pick John, thanks!
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                                                              • 06Ech0
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 11-27-11
                                                                • 161

                                                                #206
                                                                we're not worthy. I suck, I suck.
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                                                                • ireland1946
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 01-20-10
                                                                  • 633

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by mikea33
                                                                  John I know your all over Bama. but i dont see this teaser losing.

                                                                  LSU +9.5
                                                                  Baltimore ravens -1

                                                                  What a loser you are, why do you read and post in
                                                                  this Thread when you second guess Johns Picks
                                                                  your bet on the Teaser was also a pile of Shit
                                                                  Goos Luck with your next Picks, you might consider
                                                                  Picking your Nose probatly much easer and better
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