Houston -3...no brainer?

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  • Copegreen23
    SBR Rookie
    • 11-21-11
    • 32

    #1
    Houston -3...no brainer?
    Hey y'all, I'm new to this, but I've been doing pretty well. I'm looking at the lines and I'm really surprised at Houston -3. I'm all over it. Just wanted to bring it to yalls attention. Best of luck and happy thanksgiving.


    Ps. I'm going in on this without any research, just purely based on how Houston has performed this season
  • CBASS
    SBR MVP
    • 01-22-10
    • 2613

    #2
    Tulsa wins
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    • Copegreen23
      SBR Rookie
      • 11-21-11
      • 32

      #3
      Is that a gut call or you actually have some good analysis?
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      • aman86
        SBR MVP
        • 08-29-09
        • 3115

        #4
        i really agree with your expert analysis, not to be a dick, but ******* give some explaination you pansi
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        • PAULYPOKER
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-06-08
          • 36581

          #5
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          • oiler
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-06-09
            • 6585

            #6
            guess its his opinion probably doesnt have any stats to back it up
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            • KnowingNothing
              SBR Sharp
              • 04-11-11
              • 402

              #7
              Followed Houston all season, it does seem like a no brainer but Tulsa have a better team overall, home ground advantage and has been up against tougher oppositions. Tough one to call.
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              • Pin Fish
                SBR MVP
                • 11-28-08
                • 1295

                #8
                uhh tulsa has 107th pass defense.....how are they better team???
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                • robinhood
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 09-12-09
                  • 916

                  #9
                  The correct angle to look at in this matchup is the $$ angle. I'm assuming the ref's will be conference USA, and if that's the case, Houston should get all the calls.
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                  • MARVEL
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 10-02-11
                    • 186

                    #10
                    With line opening up at Houston -3, it worried me a bit. especially with Hawaii throwing games this year. This morning it was Houston -1.5. So something is going on. Probably the most proficient passing attack in the last decade and they going up against of one worst pass defenses in the country. I think it will be Houston by at least a TD.
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                    • M.W.
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-07-08
                      • 1668

                      #11
                      One of the worst pass defenses in the country? Are you kidding? Tulsa's pass D is not great, but probably a little above average.
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                      • ThingsFallApart
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 12-24-10
                        • 880

                        #12
                        A road favorite under 4, anyone want to tell the audience how this one ends?
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                        • sweethook
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-21-07
                          • 12667

                          #13
                          well your on the right side on this one , gl
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                          • MARVEL
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 10-02-11
                            • 186

                            #14
                            Originally posted by M.W.
                            One of the worst pass defenses in the country? Are you kidding? Tulsa's pass D is not great, but probably a little above average.
                            How is being ranked 107th in pass defense a little above average? That is below average and I'm sure everyone else agrees. Houston runs 3-4 wr sets on almost every play. Houston has the number 1 passing attack in the country, yes we all know that neither team is facing an SEC defense every week, but they are hard to stop. Tulsa can only beat Houston if its a shootout and hope to get some turnovers.
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                            • Wrestler31
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 09-26-11
                              • 136

                              #15
                              Houston all day. Bet the house on this one.
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                              • thebestthereis
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-01-09
                                • 11459

                                #16
                                Houston sucker bet, may win by 65, but it is going down IMO. If the spread isn't telling you this then read it again until u get it.
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                                • KnowingNothing
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 04-11-11
                                  • 402

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Pin Fish
                                  uhh tulsa has 107th pass defense.....how are they better team???
                                  Is that your basis on determining the quality of a team?

                                  Houston are number 1 in passing so technically they will pass more than any more team...no.

                                  Houston is the play still.
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                                  • moses millsap
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-25-05
                                    • 8289

                                    #18
                                    Just take the under.
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                                    • tylerguy02
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-29-09
                                      • 1987

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                      Houston sucker bet, may win by 65, but it is going down IMO. If the spread isn't telling you this then read it again until u get it.
                                      GB was a "sucker bet" today. Keenum will want to go undefeated...
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                                      • The DiB
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-22-09
                                        • 510

                                        #20
                                        Tulsa turns the ball over a ton. I know they have an average +/- ratio, but it's because their defense forces a lot of turnovers. Houston does an excellent job of not turning the ball over. I think Houston will win the turnover battle, which will be the deciding factor.

                                        Houston ML for me.
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                                        • suicidekings
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-23-09
                                          • 9962

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by M.W.
                                          One of the worst pass defenses in the country? Are you kidding? Tulsa's pass D is not great, but probably a little above average.
                                          Opponents averaging 23 completions (109th) on 38 attempts (111th) for 278 passing yards per game (107th). That makes them one of the worst pass defenses in the country. They also have a below average pass rush (81st in sacks), while Houston is 16th in pass protection so it stands to reason that Keenum will likely have a pretty good amount of time to operate in the pocket. The only element of pass defense in which Tulsa has performed fairly well is interceptions, but Keenum has a 38-3 TD-Int ratio, so I'm not sure that Tulsa backers can rely on much of an impact from their secondary.
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                                          • PAULYPOKER
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 12-06-08
                                            • 36581

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by tylerguy02
                                            GB was a "sucker bet" today. Keenum will want to go undefeated...
                                            Wrong, Dallas was.
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                                            • KnowingNothing
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 04-11-11
                                              • 402

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by suicidekings
                                              Opponents averaging 23 completions (109th) on 38 attempts (111th) for 278 passing yards per game (107th). That makes them one of the worst pass defenses in the country. They also have a below average pass rush (81st in sacks), while Houston is 16th in pass protection so it stands to reason that Keenum will likely have a pretty good amount of time to operate in the pocket. The only element of pass defense in which Tulsa has performed fairly well is interceptions, but Keenum has a 38-3 TD-Int ratio, so I'm not sure that Tulsa backers can rely on much of an impact from their secondary.
                                              Good stuff. About time someone could build a logical argument.
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                                              • SimonSayz
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-17-09
                                                • 859

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                Wrong, Dallas was.
                                                Pauly....i see this game like the GB game.....line dropped in favor of detroit and everyone was asking why even though gb was the play. I see the same thing with the houston game....there is so much $$ on houston that the books are trying to get even money by creating a mirage with line movement.

                                                Houston.
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                                                • M.W.
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-07-08
                                                  • 1668

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                  Opponents averaging 23 completions (109th) on 38 attempts (111th) for 278 passing yards per game (107th). That makes them one of the worst pass defenses in the country.
                                                  No, it doesn't. They've played extremely good passing teams, and teams that play fast and extend the game. You need to look at stats like yards per pass play and factor in the quality of the passing oeffenses Tulsa faced.
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                                                  • MTek
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-18-08
                                                    • 1381

                                                    #26
                                                    1st possession Houston - Punt
                                                    1st possession Tulsa - TD

                                                    The over 154.5 looks good too !!
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                                                    • M.W.
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-07-08
                                                      • 1668

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MARVEL
                                                      How is being ranked 107th in pass defense a little above average? That is below average and I'm sure everyone else agrees.
                                                      Tulsa isn't ranked 107th in pass defense.
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                                                      • FaM0us Skins
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 10-08-11
                                                        • 38

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by M.W.
                                                        Tulsa isn't ranked 107th in pass defense.
                                                        Their ranked 103rd in pass defense
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                                                        • MARVEL
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 10-02-11
                                                          • 186

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by FaM0us Skins
                                                          Their ranked 103th in pass defense
                                                          I looked at the info on bodog...guess it was not up to date. 103 or 107, either way it is bad. Houston was money in the bank!
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