Why Are So Many People Predicting Oregon to Win This Week??

[brahmabull117]

on paper, Stanford clearly looks like the better team across the board (better defensively and a more efficient offense), yet everybody is either predicting Oregon to win (and if they're picking Stanford, it's by just a few points)




why is this?? I actually think Stanford wins this by about 10 points (something like 41-31). They're playing at home and they will come out with a ferocious effort knowing that this is their only chance to even contend for a BCS title game. What am I missing here?

[Big Bear]

How can u say stanford looks better on paper ? Stanford and oregon both havent beaten any good teams yet. oregon gave LSU a good game for awhilez. I think oregon is faster and more athletic and also i dont think stanford has a real homefield advantage

[brahmabull117]

How can u say stanford looks better on paper ? Stanford and oregon both havent beaten any good teams yet. oregon gave LSU a good game for awhilez. I think oregon is faster and more athletic and also i dont think stanford has a real homefield advantage

Oregon is also fairly undersized. Stanford will pound the rock on them all day I think

[sandman0713]

on paper, Stanford clearly looks like the better team across the board (better defensively and a more efficient offense), yet everybody is either predicting Oregon to win (and if they're picking Stanford, it's by just a few points)




why is this?? I actually think Stanford wins this by about 10 points (something like 41-31). They're playing at home and they will come out with a ferocious effort knowing that this is their only chance to even contend for a BCS title game. What am I missing here?

ducks are in the top 10 as well man, and have a chance to knock a team in front of them out head to head...so it's not like they have nothing to play for here. i can't really say for certain what will happen in this game...just couldn't get a hold on it when i was looking it over, so i left it alone. should be a great game, and really interesting to those of us who study matchups and such...but kind of a coinflip i feel as far as betting. so many good lines out there that i am thinking about adding a few more...so there is no way i would waste more than maybe a 1 unit play here just for fun.

[letsgo]

Stanford's defense does not match up well with Oregon, that is why I see it going into the 70's.

[Balco10]

Speed kills! I like Oregon by 10.

[Dkid]

Speed kills! I like Oregon by 10.

this. although Stanford has bigger stronger team and probably will have some success with the run, there is no way Stanford will keep up with Oregon's speed. Oregon blows it open in the 4th. i like Oregon by 10+. i think Oregon can have more success with Bennett so i hope they play him in this game.

[5mike5]

im taking the ducks ML as well

[brahmabull117]

this. although Stanford has bigger stronger team and probably will have some success with the run, there is no way Stanford will keep up with Oregon's speed. Oregon blows it open in the 4th. i like Oregon by 10+. i think Oregon can have more success with Bennett so i hope they play him in this game.

Oregon's not gonna win by 10+ on the road against a top 5 team looking to win a BCS title. Do you not see how outrageous that is??



Even If Oregon does win, it will be an up and down shootout where Oregon scores late and takes it like 49-46

[Mac4Lyfe]

I like Oregon by 10+ as well. I think Stanford and Luck are getting waaaay too much press for their skillset. USC really should have beaten them and USC is fairly average to be honest. Oregon's defense will make a few more stops than Stanford's defense.

[brahmabull117]

I like Oregon by 10+ as well. I think Stanford and Luck are getting waaaay too much press for their skillset. USC really should have beaten them and USC is fairly average to be honest. Oregon's defense will make a few more stops than Stanford's defense.

Oregon's defense is small and undersized. They will get pounded with the power run game in this one



Offensively, I think they will have some success but Stanford is built to stop the run. Eventually they will pull away

[Dkid]

Oregon's defense is small and undersized. They will get pounded with the power run game in this one



Offensively, I think they will have some success but Stanford is built to stop the run. Eventually they will pay away

they're gonna have to run all game. i think luck will have to much pressure on him to throw down field & Stanford doesn't have Owusu. Oregon is just the better team. We will see tomorrow though.

[DJ Dana]

I see this being another shootout (obviously) like last year's game was. I do give a slight edge to Oregon here, not sure how to bet it yet.

[brahmabull117]

they're gonna have to run all game. i think luck will have to much pressure on him to throw down field & Stanford doesn't have Owusu. Oregon is just the better team. We will see tomorrow though.

with guys like Luck and Kellen Moore - it doesn't really matter who their receivers are as long as they're competent athletes



hell Moore went from having 2 NFL caliber receivers last year to a bunch of scrubs this year and his numbers have stayed about the same

[Dkid]

with guys like Luck and Kellen Moore - it doesn't really matter who their receivers are as long as they're competent athletes



hell Moore went from having 2 NFL caliber receivers last year to a bunch of scrubs this year and his numbers have stayed about the same

you cant compare Moore and luck. Moore plays against teams like new mexico st. and unlv so of course it doesn't matter which receivers he has. Oregon has a good fast d that not just any "competent athlete" can have success against.

[brahmabull117]

you cant compare Moore and luck. Moore plays against teams like new mexico st. and unlv so of course it doesn't matter which receivers he has. Oregon has a good fast d that not just any "competent athlete" can have success against.

Georgia's defense is ranked higher than Oregon's and Moore sliced and diced thru that defense (even with a non existant run game)



I'm telling you, it makes no difference if Owusu is out. Luck will have plenty of success with Griff Whalen, Montgomery and whichever TE is healthy enough to play

[Dkid]

Georgia's defense is ranked higher than Oregon's and Moore sliced and diced thru that defense (even with a non existant run game)



I'm telling you, it makes no difference if Owusu is out. Luck will have plenty of success with Griff Whalen, Montgomery and whichever TE is healthy enough to play

your talking about a week 1 Georgia team buddy.

Stanford should focus on running it tomorrow if they wanna win. that's all i'm saying.

[brahmabull117]

your talking about a week 1 Georgia team buddy.

so what?? Their pass defense is still awesome. I'll take UGA's secondary over Oregon's secondary in a heartbeat

Stanford should focus on running it tomorrow if they wanna win. that's all i'm saying.

they'll take whatever Oregon gives them but I fully expect Luck to have a huge game

[Koldazzice]

scary game --- when I 1st looked at the line I figured no brainer stanford by 6-7 here and saw 3!!! Not only that stanford has cashed how many tickets in a row now? Granted they should of lost ATS vs usc but bottom line is stanford has killed vegas and they only made this game 3 to open / 3.5 now.
So my 1st thought Stanford here has to be the play... but then thinking it over why in the world would vegas open this line up around 3 with stanford at home...
I live in norcal and have gone to a few stanford games in the past 10 years and never really heard to much as far as a "home field" advantage (nothing like Boise / penn st / bama etc)
They are growing the grass like crazy to try and slow oregon down. If you watched last years game once oregon got outside and used their speed in the 2nd half it was over!
so here are my thoughts if you do take stanford and they are up in the 1st half def look to hedge taking oregon in the 2nd half.
personally I got stanford early and got -3 -115. my hope was public would bet this up for a middle opportunity. (take oregon +5-6) so far no real moves have happened but most bets will happen saturday.

Gonna be honest I dont love my stanford play unless I can middle / may just have to eat the juice cause the line is just scary considering stanford has cashed so many tickets in a row but yet still stanford gets no respect here.

[Dkid]

They are growing the grass like crazy to try and slow oregon down..

lol you serious?

[Stompin_Tom]

stanfords defense wont be able to keep up with oregon. if oregon wins it will be because they can score quicker points than the pro style stanford offense. stanfords defense isnt dominant

[zsr]

Oregon will score at will, dont think stanford can keep up with them. Hope they do but done see it

[brahmabull117]

Oregon will score at will, dont think stanford can keep up with them. Hope they do but done see it

Oregon couldn't score at will last week against an atrocious Washington defense, yet they're supposedly gonna put up 40+ points against the best team they've faced since week 1??

[zsr]

Obviously last week was a look ahead. Your smarter than that.

[zsr]

Stanford hasnt beat anybody either btw, remember how oregon destroyed them last year. Stanford took 3 overtimes to beat USC, you dont think oregon is significantly better than USC?

[Dkid]

i've stopped arguing with him because he is convince Stanford is the best thing since sliced bread.

[zsr]

i've stopped arguing with him because he is convince Stanford is the best thing since sliced bread.

Yea good call..He'll see tomorrow lol.

[BigDeem5]

Oregon will win this game by 10+. Too many athletes. USC exposed Stanford's defense. Oregon will be able to score at will. And will get enough pressure on Luck to win

[brahmabull117]

Stanford hasnt beat anybody either btw, remember how oregon destroyed them last year. Stanford took 3 overtimes to beat USC, you dont think oregon is significantly better than USC?

transitive property doesn't work like that. USC was red hot entering that game and played a very inspired game in their homebuilding. For god's sake, Kentucky almost beat Auburn last year (lost by 3).


I just think you guys are really overrating Oregon. This is not the same team as the 2010 Ducks. Their offense is not as explosive (check out their scoring avg compared to last year) and their defense is not nearly as experienced. Maybe they win this game in a wild shootout (Oregon will not slow down the Stanford offense) but there's no reason that anybody should expect them to win.



This is not the same situation as Oklahoma - Oklahoma State. OU is better than OSU at nearly every position outside of maybe WR... Stanford is better than than Oregon at nearly every position outside of maybe RB

[BigDofBA]

After reading this thread, I might go huge on Stanford. People continue to be high on Oregon for some reason. They are overrated. Do I really need to find the Oregon/LSU thread again? People were saying Oregon would score at will and win by double digits. I tried to tell you guys you would all lose your ass taking Oregon in that game regardless if Jefferson played or not.

When Oregon plays teams that are physical, they lose. Just look at some of their losses in recent years.

- Boise State not once but twice! Yet we discredit Boise and give Oregon props all the time!
- Ohio State in the Rose Bowl
- Auburn in the Championship game
- LSU this season

Stanford is a physical team. I feel like Stanford is a lot better this year and I feel like Oregon is worse. Give me Stanford. They're going to gash that Oregon defense and Luck will hit timely throws in the passing game. Oregon will not score at will. It might be like 34-27.

Stanford is going to run the table. Oklahoma State will lose to Oklahoma. Stanford will play LSU in the title game. The media will hype Luck vs the LSU defense leading up to the game. Just watch.

[jakeloftin2186]

Oregons defense causes turnovers

[brahmabull117]

After reading this thread, I might go huge on Stanford. People continue to be high on Oregon for some reason. They are overrated. Do I really need to find the Oregon/LSU thread again? People were saying Oregon would score at will and win by double digits. I tried to tell you guys you would all lose your ass taking Oregon in that game regardless if Jefferson played or not.

When Oregon plays teams that are physical, they lose. Just look at some of their losses in recent years.

- Boise State not once but twice! Yet we discredit Boise and give Oregon props all the time!
- Ohio State in the Rose Bowl
- Auburn in the Championship game
- LSU this season

Stanford is a physical team. I feel like Stanford is a lot better this year and I feel like Oregon is worse. Give me Stanford. They're going to gash that Oregon defense and Luck will hit timely throws in the passing game. Oregon will not score at will. It might be like 34-27.

Stanford is going to run the table. Oklahoma State will lose to Oklahoma. Stanford will play LSU in the title game. The media will hype Luck vs the LSU defense leading up to the game. Just watch.

Oregon's an overrated team - no doubt about it


look at their margin of difference last year in games compared to 2011. Oregon was a team that used to routinely win by 30+ points last year

[BigDofBA]

Oregons defense causes turnovers

Every team cause turnovers. Posts like this are another reason why I am starting to like Stanford more and more. Public perception of Oregon is skewed.

Stanford is 13th in the nation in turnover margin. Oregon is 42. You people on this board should really do more research instead of just going off of what you hear.

http://statistics.ncaafootball.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=ncaa-football&page=cfoot/stat/ncaa-team-turnovers.htm

[BigDofBA]

Statistically Stanford's defense is ranked 11th. Oregon's is ranked 26th.

Stanford has the better defense in this game. Stanford has the better QB in this game. Stanford is at home in this game. I'll take Stanford all day long.

What's really ironic is that fact that I bet the general public are going to love Oregon getting points tomorrow.

[brahmabull117]

Statistically Stanford's defense is ranked 11th. Oregon's is ranked 26th. Stanford has the better defense in this game. Stanford has the better QB in this game. Stanford is at home in this game. I'll take Stanford all day long.

the only thing that scares you in the game is Stanford's team defensive speed is not that great so their defensive lineman have gotta dominate and play on Oregon's side of scrimmage the whole game. That's how you kill Oregon's explosive run game before it even gets going



The other side of the field, I just don't think Oregon will slow down Stanford at all in this game. The run game should go for 200 yards setting up Luck for 300+ and 3 scores




To me, the Stanford defense will determine the margin of difference in this game - if they play a very inspired and disciplined game - I'll take Stanford something like 48-28...If they struggle against Oregon's team speed, then I could see them losing like 49-46