USC rewind: video of how they got hosed TWICE last week vs Stanford

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  • Machine Choice
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-08
    • 3997

    #1
    USC rewind: video of how they got hosed TWICE last week vs Stanford
    Since USC is on tonight, thought I'd remind the forum of how USC should be 7-1 right now, with Stanford also at 7-1.

    This hit occurred in the 4Q with Stanford facing 3rd down. They would have had to punt or attempt a long 4th down play to stay alive. No matter, refs delivered the gift. No way should this have been called a "hit on a defenseless player" ... this is called a textbook POP to prevent the WR from catching a deflected ball. For all the defender knew, the ball could have come back down from the air and into the receiver's hands. His job is to make sure that doesn't happen! Notice he led with the shoulder, not helmet. Result: Stanford uses the automatic 1st Down to score 7 plays later, sending the game to OT.



    Then, as time was expiring, USC has a shot at a last-second field goal as the USC WR was clearly down with 1 second remaining. Kiffin had discussed with the officials prior to the play that he wanted a TO if the receiver was ruled down in bounds. Ref told KIffin he would get it if it happened. Well, we know how this ended. After Kiffin rightfully expressed his outrage after the game, he was fined $10K. So much for First Ammendment. Can't criticize the holier-than-thou crooked-ass officials.

  • DerekMadden
    SBR MVP
    • 01-14-11
    • 1361

    #2
    At full speed, there is no way he is supposed to know that the Stanford guy is going to drop the ball.

    what is he supposed to do?
    that call made absolutely no sense, this penalty should be reviewable!

    and as for the 1 sec, it's tough to tell I've seen so many games where the clock runs for an extra 2 or 3 seconds and nobody catches it because it is mid-game..
    I for one, thought the clock should have been stopped and I was simply a viewer of football with no action
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    • Machine Choice
      SBR MVP
      • 12-12-08
      • 3997

      #3
      I lost $392 on this madess, and if I could see these officials in person I'd get every dime back in either cash or blood.
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      • Machine Choice
        SBR MVP
        • 12-12-08
        • 3997

        #4
        Derek, it used to be that if you made a ferocious, clean hit you were praised by the commentators and the media. No longer. If you hit a player HARD, even if it's legal, you will get penalized, suspended, fined, etc....

        It's the same now in the NFL. Can't hit anybody hard anymore due to the concern over concussions. Well, we may as well go all the way and just put flags on the players and turn it into flag football.

        Football is evolving, don't doubt it! It is no longer the same sport I remeber as a kid in the 1980's
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        • Machine Choice
          SBR MVP
          • 12-12-08
          • 3997

          #5
          I pray that Stanford loses another game. They do not deserve to be undefeated. The more I watch these videos, the madder I get.

          I may back USC tonite just on general principle. Let me go look at the numbers.
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          • DerekMadden
            SBR MVP
            • 01-14-11
            • 1361

            #6
            haha I totally agree!
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            • fatty mcgoo
              SBR High Roller
              • 04-23-10
              • 205

              #7
              I was at the game this past sat. First thing I want to sat was that was a HIT. But in no way should it have been a penalty, that was gaame decisive penalt
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              • M.W.
                SBR MVP
                • 09-07-08
                • 1668

                #8
                The receiver dropped his head, but the problem is that the defender wasn't looking at the offensive player, so it was a good call.
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                • M.W.
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-07-08
                  • 1668

                  #9
                  And about the clock thing, yeah, he was down with a second left, but there's no way to get a timeout called in a half second before the clock hits zero, so that's another good call.
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                  • MTek
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-18-08
                    • 1381

                    #10
                    Couldn't agree more, saw a very similar play called the same way in a game 2 weeks ago Bowling Green - Temple.
                    If the defender doesnt hit the reciever when the ball gets there, he makes a catch ... how are you supposed to defend that, let the receiver catch it clean?
                    Unbelievable
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                    • Machine Choice
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-12-08
                      • 3997

                      #11
                      Originally posted by M.W.
                      The receiver dropped his head, but the problem is that the defender wasn't looking at the offensive player, so it was a good call.
                      The reason he wasn't looking at the receiver is because he was stuffing his shoulder right where it was supposed to be! He's trained to dislodge the ball.
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                      • Machine Choice
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                        • 12-12-08
                        • 3997

                        #12
                        Originally posted by M.W.
                        And about the clock thing, yeah, he was down with a second left, but there's no way to get a timeout called in a half second before the clock hits zero, so that's another good call.
                        Kiffin had pre-arranged the TO (which coaches do all the time) with the croked-ass refs. Meaning that the TO is supposed to be effective the instant the whistle blows. But that's not what happened.
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                        • artist
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-30-09
                          • 673

                          #13
                          Stanford still perfect covering ats thank you ref
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                          • aimgator
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-12-11
                            • 206

                            #14
                            #1. The USC receiver made the mistake of running sideways.. he was tackled in bounds as 1 sec expired. You have to give the official time to whistle the play..and time for the official to see Kiffin and call time out. No way that happens in less than 1 sec.. Look where Kiffins TRYS to run to the offical calling the timeout.. he should have been standing next to the official before the play...

                            #2. The hit while it sucks,was called correctly..
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                            • aimgator
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 09-12-11
                              • 206

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Machine Choice
                              Kiffin had pre-arranged the TO (which coaches do all the time) with the croked-ass refs. Meaning that the TO is supposed to be effective the instant the whistle blows. But that's not what happened.
                              Kiffin did not pre arrange the timeout. Watch his sprint from like 20 yards away to the sideline ref asking for the timeout. If it was prearranged, he wouldnt have had to do that. Kiffin should have been standing next to the ref...but he didnt..probably because he didnt expect his WR to waste 9 secs running sideways..
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                              • TheBetBuysDanK
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                                • 10-15-09
                                • 1998

                                #16
                                With more and more concussion issues for current and ex-players, the game is changing. no longer can DBs hit high (head region), even if he leads with the shoulder, on an exposed wideout.

                                I agree that is was a tough, physical play from a DB whose mission was to break up a catch. BUT, he left his feet and came in just a tad too high.

                                In today's football climate, with all the focus on protecting the athletes, this one is going to get called 8 out of 10 times. That it happened at such a pivotal moment is a shame, but I DO NOT think it was an incorrect call.
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                                • Mr. Doughnut
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-16-11
                                  • 690

                                  #17
                                  Are people really still complaining about this? Move on, everyone has bad beats every once in a while. With all of this bitching lately **, you're beginning to look like a fool.
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                                  • jgray
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-06-09
                                    • 3599

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mr. Doughnut
                                    Are people really still complaining about this? Move on, everyone has bad beats every once in a while. With all of this bitching lately **, you're beginning to look like a fool.
                                    Agree. My list of bad beats is long and storied.

                                    On to the next one.
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                                    • Machine Choice
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-12-08
                                      • 3997

                                      #19
                                      Not trying to whine about it still (...well, yeah I am) but I do think this is relevant for people betting on tonite's game and tryng to decipher USC's mental state. That's why I posted it.

                                      I'm staying away from the game, taking Kent State -1.5
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                                      • jgray
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-06-09
                                        • 3599

                                        #20
                                        I agree the outcome may have an impact on USC tonight. That's why I'm staying away even though Colorado is simply awful.

                                        If last week's loss keeps you from playing USC tonight and they lose, tell yourself you got last week's money back so you are even....
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