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  • Romocide
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    • 09-14-11
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    #36
    Baylor not gonna cover in this one. One of the best teams in the country at protecting the ball before this game, but not today. Game could easily be 14-14 right now, but it's not Baylor's day. Too many mistakes. Only gonna get worse from here. Good game Ok. St.
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    • jonathon1995
      SBR High Roller
      • 10-27-11
      • 245

      #37
      Ive been riding the cowboys all year, again today, first half and game. Will probably do 2nd half on a cheap parlay.
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      • Romocide
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        • 09-14-11
        • 1404

        #38
        Originally posted by brahmabull117
        I really really hope we don't see OSU or Clemson in the title game


        neither one of thoser teams have a chance to beat Alabama or LSU - the only 2 teams that have a chance to beat the SEC powerhouses would be Stanford and Boise (who have the toughness and defenses to hang with the SEC teams)
        If Ok. St. is good enough to run the table with their schedule, they're good enough to hang with LSU or Bama.
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        • suicidekings
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          #39
          Originally posted by brahmabull117
          I really really hope we don't see OSU or Clemson in the title game. neither one of thoser teams have a chance to beat Alabama or LSU - the only 2 teams that have a chance to beat the SEC powerhouses would be Stanford and Boise (who have the toughness and defenses to hang with the SEC teams)
          Clemson has zero chance. They will lose at least one if not two of their last games.

          Boise and Stanford are way less likely to make it to the game than OSU. Boise is too far out now and doesn't face anyone of significance from now on except TCU and even that game should be a relatively easy win. Even big wins won't close the gap. Even if they made it, I think you're seriously overvaluing their chances against LSU/Alabama. The 2010 Broncos team was the one built to win it all. This year's is not.

          Stanford is going to look a lot less impressive in the next few weeks than they have so far and if they manage to go 12-0 it could still not be enough. I still think Oregon beats them. We'll see which direction they're heading after tonight's game with USC.

          OK State has tough opponents but 3 of their last 5 (including today) at home, and I think the chances of them being 11-0 going into that last week are pretty high. From that point on, it's just a preparation issue against an OU team that is very good, but not as elite as they appeared earlier in the year.

          I played them this week at 10.25-1, and given their schedule and current rank, it seemed like a solid value bet. All I need is for the winner of LSU/Alabama to punctuate the game with a late TD to win by double digits and it could be a real live option.
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          • nj1035
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-19-09
            • 902

            #40
            Baylor had a chance, but not anymore. However, they play this game 10 times I think Baylor wins 2 or 3.
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            • brahmabull117
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              • 11-08-10
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              #41
              Originally posted by nj1035
              Baylor had a chance, but not anymore. However, they play this game 10 times I think Baylor wins 2 or 3.

              3 out of 10 times to win straight up??


              Does Baylor even have a win in their team history against a top 5 team on the road??
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              • brahmabull117
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                • 11-08-10
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                #42
                Originally posted by suicidekings
                Clemson has zero chance. They will lose at least one if not two of their last games.

                Boise and Stanford are way less likely to make it to the game than OSU. Boise is too far out now and doesn't face anyone of significance from now on except TCU and even that game should be a relatively easy win. Even big wins won't close the gap. Even if they made it, I think you're seriously overvaluing their chances against LSU/Alabama. The 2010 Broncos team was the one built to win it all. This year's is not.

                Stanford is going to look a lot less impressive in the next few weeks than they have so far and if they manage to go 12-0 it could still not be enough. I still think Oregon beats them. We'll see which direction they're heading after tonight's game with USC.

                OK State has tough opponents but 3 of their last 5 (including today) at home, and I think the chances of them being 11-0 going into that last week are pretty high. From that point on, it's just a preparation issue against an OU team that is very good, but not as elite as they appeared earlier in the year.

                I played them this week at 10.25-1, and given their schedule and current rank, it seemed like a solid value bet. All I need is for the winner of LSU/Alabama to punctuate the game with a late TD to win by double digits and it could be a real live option.

                OKST better chance than Stanford to make it all the way??



                no way - OSU still has to go on the road to play Oklahoma - a very tough matchup that they have struggled in recent history


                Stanford's toughest game is at home against an Oregon team that is not as good as 2010 Oregon team - they will win that for sure
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                • veeds1690
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 10-06-11
                  • 178

                  #43
                  Originally posted by brahmabull117
                  OKST better chance than Stanford to make it all the way??



                  no way - OSU still has to go on the road to play Oklahoma - a very tough matchup that they have struggled in recent history


                  Stanford's toughest game is at home against an Oregon team that is not as good as 2010 Oregon team - they will win that for sure
                  OSU is home against Oklahoma
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                  • bosoxbruce
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 09-21-11
                    • 75

                    #44
                    Dude get ur facts straight the ou game is in stilly!
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                    • Brett
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                      • 01-17-10
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by brahmabull117


                      OKST better chance than Stanford to make it all the way??



                      no way - OSU still has to go on the road to play Oklahoma - a very tough matchup that they have struggled in recent history


                      Stanford's toughest game is at home against an Oregon team that is not as good as 2010 Oregon team - they will win that for sure
                      You are probably wrong more often than any other poster
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                      • bosoxbruce
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 75

                        #46
                        Where is that loser vin vermillion? This is becoming a ritual, he calls osu the most overrated team in the country, he picks against them, he looses and does not show his face! It might be time to rethink ur strategy after 7 straight losses! But what do I know!
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                        • suicidekings
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                          • 03-23-09
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by brahmabull117
                          OKST better chance than Stanford to make it all the way?? no way - OSU still has to go on the road to play Oklahoma - a very tough matchup that they have struggled in recent history. Stanford's toughest game is at home against an Oregon team that is not as good as 2010 Oregon team - they will win that for sure
                          Look at the BCS rankings right now. Despite ranking 3rd/4th in the two opinion polls, Stanford manages only 6th place in the BCS rankings because the computer element rates them significantly lower than the polls. Regardless of whether or not you agree with that, the fact remains that they have an uphill battle that they MIGHT overcome if they run the table, but if you think they can't lose to USC or Oregon, you're not looking at the team clearly.

                          They are VERY weak against good QBs, ranked near the bottom in the country in passing yards allowed and completions allowed. An average team gives up about 60% of total offense in passing. Stanford allows over 75% of total yards through the air.

                          Tonight will be very revealing.
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                          • brahmabull117
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                            • 11-08-10
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by suicidekings
                            Look at the BCS rankings right now. Despite ranking 3rd/4th in the two opinion polls, Stanford manages only 6th place in the BCS rankings because the computer element rates them significantly lower than the polls. Regardless of whether or not you agree with that, the fact remains that they have an uphill battle that they MIGHT overcome if they run the table, but if you think they can't lose to USC or Oregon, you're not looking at the team clearly. They are VERY weak against good QBs, ranked near the bottom in the country in passing yards allowed, completions allowed, and passing first downs allowed. An average team gives up about 60% of total offense in passing. Stanford allows over 75% of total yards through the air. Tonight will be very revealing.


                            Oregon is a running team though and Stanford has a great run defense - Oregon is also a different team away from home (hell they nearly lost at Cal last year). Oregon's defense this year has also looked soft at times and Stanford is a legitimate top 5 top 10 offense in the country


                            if they beat USC tonight, I think Stanford is a near lock to go undefeated - I give you about a 66% chance of seeing Stanford in the BCS title game and about 33% chance of seeing OSU in the title game. OSU will have a much tougher time against an Oklahoma team that is more talented than they are than Stanford will against Oregon


                            OU is more talented than OSU at nearly every position outside of maybe WR
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                            • suicidekings
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by brahmabull117
                              Oregon is a running team though and Stanford has a great run defense - Oregon is also a different team away from home (hell they nearly lost at Cal last year). Oregon's defense this year has also looked soft at times and Stanford is a legitimate top 5 top 10 offense in the country

                              if they beat USC tonight, I think Stanford is a near lock to go undefeated - I give you about a 66% chance of seeing Stanford in the BCS title game and about 33% chance of seeing OSU in the title game. OSU will have a much tougher time against an Oklahoma team that is more talented than they are than Stanford will against Oregon

                              OU is more talented than OSU at nearly every position outside of maybe WR
                              But... Stanford is still ranked too low. I don't think the pollsters could be any further up Andrew Luck's ass, so it's really going to come down to margin of victory against their remaining tougher opponents for the computer element to increase their value. Winning will not be enough if OSU continues to roll. Again, let's see what happens tonight against a legit QB.

                              And Oregon might be a run-first offense, but they still throw for 220 yards and 3 passing TDs a game (21-3 TD-Int ratio).
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                              • brahmabull117
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                                • 11-08-10
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by suicidekings
                                But... Stanford is still ranked too low. I don't think the pollsters could be any further up Andrew Luck's ass, so it's really going to come down to margin of victory against their remaining tougher opponents for the computer element to increase their value. Winning will not be enough if OSU continues to roll. Again, let's see what happens tonight against a legit QB. And Oregon might be a run-first offense, but they still throw for 220 yards and 3 passing TDs a game (21-3 TD-Int ratio).


                                Stanford's only low in the BCS polls because they haven't played anybody yet


                                if they are the only other team to go undefeated (along with one of the SEC powerhouses), then it's a lock to see them in the BCS title game



                                I just think you're severely underrating Oklahoma as an opponent for OSU. Oklahoma is more talented than OSU at every position - that's a game that OU will win if they play to full potential
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                                • sandman0713
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                                  • 09-10-11
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                  Stanford's only low in the BCS polls because they haven't played anybody yet


                                  if they are the only other team to go undefeated (along with one of the SEC powerhouses), then it's a lock to see them in the BCS title game



                                  I just think you're severely underrating Oklahoma as an opponent for OSU. Oklahoma is more talented than OSU at every position - that's a game that OU will win if they play to full potential

                                  u can put away your stanford panties man...they are not going undefeated.
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                                  • suicidekings
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                                    • 03-23-09
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                    Stanford's only low in the BCS polls because they haven't played anybody yet. if they are the only other team to go undefeated (along with one of the SEC powerhouses), then it's a lock to see them in the BCS title game. I just think you're severely underrating Oklahoma as an opponent for OSU. Oklahoma is more talented than OSU at every position - that's a game that OU will win if they play to full potential
                                    The teams are close enough that there will likely be a small spread in the game and the (+1025) wager gives enough flexibility that I can partially hedge on OU and either take a small profit on an OU win or carry forward a live future on OSU if they squeeze in.

                                    If OSU and Stanford both go undefeated, there's absolutely no question who played the tougher schedule. Stanford is not in control of their own future with respect to a spot in the BCS title game.
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                                    • Romocide
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                                      • 09-14-11
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                                      #53
                                      Stanford is not going undefeated this season.
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                                      • brahmabull117
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                                        • 11-08-10
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by suicidekings
                                        The teams are close enough that there will likely be a small spread in the game and the (+1025) wager gives enough flexibility that I can partially hedge on OU and either take a small profit on an OU win or carry forward a live future on OSU if they squeeze in. If OSU and Stanford both go undefeated, there's absolutely no question who played the tougher schedule. Stanford is not in control of their own future with respect to a spot in the BCS title game.


                                        If OSU does make it all the way, it's gonna absolutely suck because we're gonna see another relatively easy win for the SEC in the BCS Title game. There's no way in hell that OSU can beat an LSU or an Alabama team with their soft defense. Either one of those SEC teams would likely win by about 14-17 points. Same thing with Clemson too - Clemson would get assraped in the BCS title game



                                        You should be rooting for Stanford or Boise to make it all the way because they have the toughness required to play a decent game against the SEC powerhouses
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                                        • brahmabull117
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by sandman0713
                                          u can put away your stanford panties man...they are not going undefeated.
                                          Originally posted by Romocide
                                          Stanford is not going undefeated this season.




                                          look at their schedule and tell me what game they're gonna lose


                                          a home against an inferior and banged up Oregon team that has a very average defense this year???
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                                          • HoulihansTX
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                                            • 02-12-09
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                            Baylor does not play enough defense to upset anyone, except their own coach.
                                            Cash it.
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                                            • suicidekings
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                              If OSU does make it all the way, it's gonna absolutely suck because we're gonna see another relatively easy win for the SEC in the BCS Title game. There's no way in hell that OSU can beat an LSU or an Alabama team with their soft defense. Either one of those SEC teams would likely win by about 14-17 points. Same thing with Clemson too - Clemson would get assraped in the BCS title game. You should be rooting for Stanford or Boise to make it all the way because they have the toughness required to play a decent game against the SEC powerhouses
                                              This is a gambling forum. I'm talking about future bets made on OSU. Why would I ever root for Stanford/Boise?
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                                              • brahmabull117
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                This is a gambling forum. I'm talking about future bets made on OSU. Why would I ever root for Stanford/Boise?

                                                u don't want to see a competitive matchup in the BCS championship game??
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                                                • suicidekings
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                  u don't want to see a competitive matchup in the BCS championship game??
                                                  I disagree that OSU would not be competitive. And that's really not relevant to my interest in this. Stanford is overvalued this season and I suspect they would get raped by either Alabama or LSU.
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                                                  • Romocide
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                                                    • 09-14-11
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by brahmabull117



                                                    look at their schedule and tell me what game they're gonna lose


                                                    a home against an inferior and banged up Oregon team that has a very average defense this year???

                                                    They might very well lose tonight to USC. If not, then they can count on getting mauled by Oregon.
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                                                    • brahmabull117
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Romocide
                                                      They might very well lose tonight to USC. If not, then they can count on getting mauled by Oregon.
                                                      Oregon winning in Stanford?? No chance
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