BYU@TCU history is the key to this match up

[PAULYPOKER]

Tcu is BYU's Achilles heel the past 3 seasons

2010 TCU came into the match up 6-0 ranked #4 in the country while BYU was 2-4 unranked @TCU.
The spread was TCU-30 and Ov/Un 51,the halftime score was TCU 17 BYU 0,, final score was TCU 31-BYU 3

2009 TCU came into the match up 6-0 ranked #8 in the country while BYU was 5-1 ranked #16 in the country VS TCU.
The spread was TCU-2.5 and Ov/Un 51,the halftime score was TCU 21 BYU 7,, final score was TCU 38-BYU 7

2008 TCU came into the match up 6-1 ranked #14 in the country while BYU was 6-0 ranked #9 in the country VS TCU.
The spread was opened BYU -1.5 and closed TCU-1.5 and Ov/Un 47,the halftime score was TCU 24 BYU 0,, final score was TCU 32-BYU 7


Tonight's matchup at Cowboys Stadium TCU comes into the match up 5-2 unranked while BYU is 6-2 unranked.
The spread is TCU-13 and Ov/Un 56.5

Going by history TCU has beaten BYU by an average 28 points per game while holding BYU to 7 or lower per game and all 3 games were well under the total.

The only sensible way to play this is take TCU-13 and Under 56.5....

[ck021]

I'm with u on tcu!!!

[nocturnal012]

I'm also with you Pauly. Won't watch the game though because I've a test tomorrow but BOL to all TCU backers

[smokeman42]

going with history here isnt a bad look at all as it has shown that byu actually play well first half and then fall off second so if thats any help mabye a first half play byu then hit Tcu second.

[ctguy]

Great write up. And for any people who are saying well dalton was there don't forget about a Byu beast that was there max hall. Both teams lost there star qb's and now new ones are there

[ExposingLines247]

going with history here isnt a bad look at all as it has shown that byu actually play well first half and then fall off second so if thats any help mabye a first half play byu then hit Tcu second.

what are you talking about man all of those scores tcu would cover the first half easy tonight

[hangtime]

on it. tcu-13.5. lets get this.gl

[Jay2k1civic]

Just like Virgina was suppose to lose to Miami last night, just like Syracuse was suppose to lose to West Virgina last friday night....just like Oklahoma was favored 29 points and LOST straight up..... Its 2011 history does not always repeat itself....if that was the case the spread should be over 21

[PAULYPOKER]

Other good plays/props in this game>
Team Total Points BYU Under 22 for game
1st Half TCU -9 +130
1st Quarter TCU -3½ +100
1st Half Total Points u28½ -115
Teaser - ties reduce - football 6½ pts>TCU -6½ u63½ @-110

[takzilla]

Pachall is no Dalton sir. remember that

[PAULYPOKER]

Just like Virgina was suppose to lose to Miami last night, just like Syracuse was suppose to lose to West Virgina last friday night....just like Oklahoma was favored 29 points and LOST straight up..... Its 2011 history does not always repeat itself....if that was the case the spread should be over 21

Not quite,I had Virginia matching up very well against Miami going by this years schedule, which was my play.........

[Jay2k1civic]

so explain Syracuse and OKLAHOMA? oh and lets not forget the RAVENS..... More than enough upsets in one week if you ask me....

[Jay2k1civic]

Its just funny On any Given SUNDAY a football team can beat just about anybody, In college the odds of a Ranked number 1 or 2 losing to NOBODIES are like impossible.....Well look what happened to good ole number 3

[BernardMadoff]

History has nothing to do with tonight.

[hangtime]

History has nothing to do with tonight.

history will repeat itself tonight..

[WinningIsKeY]

History has nothing to do with tonight.

[Jay2k1civic]

Also worth NOTING..... TCU first game on TURF this season.... BYU scored 38 and had 499 TOTAL YARDS 2 weeks ago 38-28 win

[Demonata]

so explain Syracuse and OKLAHOMA? oh and lets not forget the RAVENS..... More than enough upsets in one week if you ask me....

Well anything is possible smart one...
The odds are though of BYU losing tonight. That's the best pick in my opinion and I'm a BYU fan.

[Jay2k1civic]

Im not arguing the fact but when people want to sit here and say BLOW out, or its a lock...nothing is ever a lock..... The line opened at 11 and moved what two points?... vegas making a mistake here is possible but dont rule it out by saying its a lock...why JINX IT is all im saying!

[PAULYPOKER]

I never said this was guaranteed or a lock,I am just simply saying that if one is taking BYU tonight they are definitely going against the grain because I can not find any supporting case whatsoever that favors BYU in this situation except for the obvious of a unlikely upset.
Can any of you??

[Jay2k1civic]

im not saying you but to say A BLOW OUT ....you might as well call it a lock....just using different words..... Well based on averages the last 3 games or even 5 games it states that BYU will cover......But hey those are just numbers and of course that goes 50/50

[PAULYPOKER]

I never said blowout either....

[Jay2k1civic]

i didnt say you.....i know you didnt....someone else posting in another thread did...and has posted on this one....

[Jay2k1civic]

do you take any consideration to turf over grass?

[ttwarrior1]

using history is not the way to go with new players

[Demonata]

Im not arguing the fact but when people want to sit here and say BLOW out, or its a lock...nothing is ever a lock..... The line opened at 11 and moved what two points?... vegas making a mistake here is possible but dont rule it out by saying its a lock...why JINX IT is all im saying!

We have no affect on what happens in a game. So there is no such thing as "Jinxing"

[PAULYPOKER]

BYU's FBS RANKINGS

PASSING YARDS
232.8 59th Overall

RUSHING YARDS
158.5 58th Overall

POINTS FOR
26.8 72nd Overall

POINTS AGAINST
21.5 30th Overall

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TCU's FBS RANKINGS

PASSING YARDS
234.6 56th Overall

RUSHING YARDS
217.4 18th Overall

POINTS FOR
43.6 8th Overall

POINTS AGAINST
21.9 33rd Overall

[diveoregon]

What I know about history and this game is that the TCU's lockdown defense was in the past! I would be VERY hesitant in playing the under here. TCU is going to put points on the board tonight, and how well or poor their defense plays will determine both the o/u and whether or not they cover. I'm staying away from this game and saving my bankroll for the multitude of great games tomorrow!

[bachngocduong]

Teaser - ties reduce - football 6½ pts>TCU -6½ u63½ @-110[/quote]
why don't you go tie lost pay more the tie reduce
-6.5 and 63.5

[chrisharvard01]

good info

[antifoil]

those stats are meaningless because they have both played different opponents. to make those of some value you need to normalize the stats to remove strength of schedule.

also the first post is not predictive going forward.

[illriseupxnhx]

if this were a conference game id feel much stronger about TCU after looking at the numbers....even so, tcu plays retty mistake free footbal with a responsible qb, whereas byu can get loose...both can stop the run, both cant defend the pass terribly well, difference being tcu secondary is on an upswing....byu hasnt beaten a team over .500....best bet for me is tcu 1H, with FG at -13.5 being a play as well...gl

[FreakyD]

The only sensible way to play this is take TCU-13 and Under 56.5....

Have to disagree with this. This is not the TCU D of the past few years. Go with the OVER and cash it at the Bank. GL on all TCU Backers, I do believe they will cover BIG in Texas.

[KiDBaZkiT]

TCU has played NOBODY. That being said, I still kind of like TCU because Riley Stevens is not a good pocket passer, and what a joke Jake Heaps lost his starting job cause of Doman's atrocious play calling but thats another story for another thread.

[PAULYPOKER]

Other good plays/props in this game>
Team Total Points BYU Under 22 for game pending
1st Half TCU -9 +130
1st Quarter TCU -3½ +100
1st Half Total Points u28½ -115
Teaser - ties reduce - football 6½ pts>TCU -6½ u63½ @-110 pending

Added live play> under 70 for game