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  • guy Fawkes
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    • 09-21-11
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    #1
    BYU @ TCU - Fawkes Write Up
    Season Record 8-7-0 +14.8u

    Hey SBR Forums! I took a week off from my write ups and I am really glad I did. I took some risks last week I probably wouldn't have otherwise. I have to give a big thanks to a buddy of mine that challenged me to put my money where my mouth was after drinks and talking how I thought Texas Tech had a chance. I admit it wasn't my best decision, but it is definitely my best not-good decision I've ever made. Bankroll looked like it was going to top my personal high after UAB, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State when I lost a good deal on Wisconsin and Virginia. Still one bad week, one good week and I'm back in the saddle again! You'll also notice a change in my layout, just trying something different if it's more confusing than helpful I'll go back to paragraph form. Alright, without further feel good stories, let's move on to:

    BYU @ TCU

    BYU
    is rolling right now on a 5 game winning streak in a 6-2 season. This win streak has come against Idaho State, Oregon State, San Jose State, Utah State and UCF; teams under-performing this season. Dropping Idaho State out of the equation, each team has been one-dimensional in its offense against BYU, scoring double digits in the run game with the exception of Utah State who only passed for 122 yards. The only times BYU has faced a dual-threat offense was in a slaughter against Utah that ended up 54-10.

    TCU has performed under the radar most of this year losing to SMU in overtime and against Baylor in week 1 50-48. BYU has been a different story for TCU over their last three meetings where TCU has outscored the Cougars by an average of 28 points and held BYU to 7 points or less and holding them to an average of 247.3 yards per game. Additionally over this same span, TCU has been the benefactor of 8 turnovers while only giving up 1.

    Stats Clash
    • Team--------------------------------BYU---------TCU
    • -
    • Yards per Play------------------------5.0----------6.2
    • -
    • Points per Play-----------------------0.309-------0.573
    • -
    • 3rd Down Conversion-----------------48.0%-------56.9%
    • -
    • Starting QB Completion---------------61.8%-------69.7%
    • -
    • Passer Rating------------------------174.5--------165.2
    • -
    • TD to INT ratio----------------------11:3----------17:4
    • -
    • Passing Yards per game--------------198.8---------223.7
    • -
    • Rushing Yards per game--------------158.5---------217.4
    • -
    • Rushing Yards per Attempt-----------4.37----------5.3
    • -
    • Rushing Yards Allowed per Attempt---3.96----------3.6
    • -
    • Sacks per Game----------------------0.9-----------2.0
    • -
    • Opponent Red Zone TDs--------------70.8%--------61.9%
    • -
    • Points per Game----------------------26.8----------43.6
    • -
    • Points Against per Game--------------21.5----------21.9


    Personal Notes

    It's hard to get a good feel for Riley Nelson (BYU QB jr.) as he has only started for the last 4 games. Earlier in the season it was Jake Heaps (BYU QB so.) under center, but he seems to have fallen out of favor after the Utah State game. If he is the backup at this point his stats from earlier in the year are abysmal (55% completions, rating of 98.6, 3 TDs and 6 INTs).

    An interesting stat for this one (not sure how much weight I give it) if a fumble occurs whether on offense or defense TCU has a 61.9% recovery rate compared to BYU's 40.9%.

    TCU has a devastating offense that can gain large chunks of ground in a variety of ways and has been the model of consistency. Casey Pachall (TCU QB so.) has thrown for at least 1 touchdown in every game this year and Matthew Tucker (TCU RB jr.) is averaging a rushing touchdown per game and 5.0 yards per carry.

    TCU has not been held under 400 yards yet this season.

    My Picks

    TCU -13 @ 2u

    I will likely be taking the TCU TT Over as well

    Thank you for reading and as always please feel free to post anything and everything. I read all comments and continue to check picks against any new data presented here. This is a write-up and contains some of the information I use, but not all for the sake of time. I hope this information is useful, despite which way the information is used. Again, Thank you for reading!
  • CollegeOverUnder
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    • 10-20-10
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    #2
    Dude I looked at the first half line at -7 what do you think about that I'm so leary of this game though but I'm gonna be on it because I don't have work Friday night.
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    • guy Fawkes
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      • 09-21-11
      • 333

      #3
      TCU scores 50.9% of their points in the first half, 55.3% of their points in the first half in games they win and 50.8% of their points in the first half against FBS opponents.

      Conversely, BYU is a bit random having gone scoreless in the first half against Ole Miss then getting 14 in the second half and getting 3 of their 24 points against UCF in the first half. BUT, between those games they got all 10 of their points against Utah in the first half and 13 of their 16 against Texas. Each of those games was under Jake Heaps though. If we are looking at Riley Nelson the numbers are a bit more consistent with BYU scoring 56.6% of their points in the first half.

      Long story made short I wouldn't take the half with BYU being such a wildcard. I wouldn't be at all surprised if TCU led by 7 at the half, but I'd personally feel more confident in the entirety of the game.

      Thanks for reading
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      • LP™
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        • 09-26-11
        • 173

        #4
        You don't think going ML on TCU is a better choice or they should easily cover by 2 TD's or more iyo?
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        • guy Fawkes
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          • 09-21-11
          • 333

          #5
          I will only do write ups about ATS or dog plays. Of course I think the TCU ML is safer than -13, but I can pick ML favorites all day long. If you are risk averse or just feel like watching the game and rooting for a small side I think the TCU ML is a great bet.

          I do believe TCU should cover the 13 points though.
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          • ck021
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            • 09-07-11
            • 160

            #6
            I've got this myself love tcu flying under the radar a mismatch a team who can't score against a team who doesn't stop scoring
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            • JGetty
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              • 10-22-11
              • 70

              #7
              My Prediction: 34-20 TCU wins by 14+
              Over/Under is 56: Under (but not too sure about this one)
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              • Urbanwildlife
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                • 09-06-11
                • 5958

                #8
                I believe that TCU will blow them out big time. No way will BYU compete with the offense of TCU. It is just not going to happen. I will probably put a dime or better on TCU, and enjoy my sweet walk to the pay window!
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                • ck021
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                  • 09-07-11
                  • 160

                  #9
                  This is similar to the tcu air force mismatch byu will score around 10-24 the most tcu will score 40+
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                  • Urbanwildlife
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                    • 09-06-11
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                    #10
                    You are a smart man ck021!
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                    • CBASS
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                      • 01-22-10
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                      #11
                      Nice write-up G Fawkes. GL to you sir
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                      • guy Fawkes
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 333

                        #12
                        Adding:

                        TCU TT O 34.5 @ 3u

                        Thanks for the kind words all, good luck out there tomorrow!
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                        • thfootball
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                          • 01-16-11
                          • 1771

                          #13
                          how is the new QB at TCU, that's what i want to know. I haven't seen the team play, are they good, so so, or bad.
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                          • DerekMadden
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                            • 01-14-11
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                            #14
                            are there any diehard cougar and horny frog fans in here?

                            I'd like to get an emotional take on the game too
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                            • sfniner415
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                              • 10-28-11
                              • 7

                              #15
                              @ guy fawkes....i know byu is not great, i saw them play early this year with heaps at qb, but it seems that since nelson has been at qb BYUs offense has been significantly better, and TCUs defense hasnt really been tested either..do you really think they can cover with momentum BYUs side?? what is it a 5 game winning streak...line is at -13.5
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                              • BernardMadoff
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                                • 12-12-09
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by sfniner415
                                @ guy fawkes....i know byu is not great, i saw them play early this year with heaps at qb, but it seems that since nelson has been at qb BYUs offense has been significantly better, and TCUs defense hasnt really been tested either..do you really think they can cover with momentum BYUs side?? what is it a 5 game winning streak...line is at -13.5
                                Tcu defense was tested in the first game when they gave up half a hundred, people seem to forget about that game. First of season but still.
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                                • SmackdownV
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                                  • 04-14-09
                                  • 5918

                                  #17
                                  Funny how you bolded only TCU in GREEN and when the BYU stats were better you left as is.

                                  That's why people lose on this ******* site.

                                  Blindly follow someone who OBVIOUSLY has a bias towards TCU.

                                  BYU moneyline is the play tonight fellas.

                                  Look at his initial post and ask yourself if he is INTENTIONALLY trying to sway you to TCU.

                                  Fucker.
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                                  • DrStale
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                                    • 12-07-08
                                    • 9692

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BernardMadoff
                                    Tcu defense was tested in the first game when they gave up half a hundred, people seem to forget about that game. First of season but still.
                                    They also gave that up to one of the best offense in college football...
                                    Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                    • Demonata
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                                      • 07-12-11
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DerekMadden
                                      are there any diehard cougar and horny frog fans in here? I'd like to get an emotional take on the game too
                                      I'm a die hard BYU fan.
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                                      • Demonata
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                                        #20
                                        BYU sucks and are not on TCUs level. Will get blown out tonight. I watch every BYU game and they suck.Have beaten teams way worse than TCU in my opinion by barely any points. That spread is a gift and I see BYU losing by more than 14 points. The QB is only good at rushing and sucks at passing and throws the ball up for grabs more often than not. I see at least 2 ints for BYUs QB tonight too.Also it's in TCU. Game has murder written all over it.
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                                        • Jay2k1civic
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                                          • 11-07-10
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                                          #21
                                          SMH... Virgina(14pt underdog), Syracuse (13(roughly) point underdog), and Oklahoma (29pt fav) BYU knowing whats happened in the past just might come out strong tonight..... NO SUCH thing as a LOCKED pick....the spread is where its at for a reason....It should easily be -24 at least but its not... AND lets not forget what happened to the RAVENS monday night.....
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                                          • Demonata
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Jay2k1civic
                                            SMH... Virgina(14pt underdog), Syracuse (13(roughly) point underdog), and Oklahoma (29pt fav) BYU knowing whats happened in the past just might come out strong tonight..... NO SUCH thing as a LOCKED pick....the spread is where its at for a reason....It should easily be -24 at least but its not... AND lets not forget what happened to the RAVENS monday night.....
                                            Name one college or season where there was no upsets? You sir are a moron.You are saying BYU did not come out strong all the other times they played TCU? Of course there is no such thing as a locked pick. Why do you even bother talking?
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                                            • Gundog
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                                              • 12-15-07
                                              • 833

                                              #23
                                              nice write up. and some very good info from the posts.
                                              good luck either way. ive yet to side with a team. But im leaning twords the over on this one. nothing big one unit for a ben franklin
                                              The Good Lord" Gave you a Body that can stand Almost Anything. It's your mind you have to convince.

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                                              • Jay2k1civic
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                                                • 11-07-10
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                                                #24
                                                That was a huge upset....ranked number 3.....ANYONE that picked the money line on that game was +1000 ..... Dont come on your lil computer talking shit....calling people names because growing up thats how you were treated.....I understand man not everyone can be as cool as you right now
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                                                • Jay2k1civic
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Demonata
                                                  BYU sucks and are not on TCUs level. Will get blown out tonight. I watch every BYU game and they suck.Have beaten teams way worse than TCU in my opinion by barely any points. That spread is a gift and I see BYU losing by more than 14 points. The QB is only good at rushing and sucks at passing and throws the ball up for grabs more often than not. I see at least 2 ints for BYUs QB tonight too.Also it's in TCU. Game has murder written all over it.



                                                  NO SUCH THING AS A LOCKED PICK BUT CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG "WILL GET BLOWN OUT TONIGHT" im just saying
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                                                  • PAULYPOKER
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Demonata
                                                    BYU sucks and are not on TCUs level. Will get blown out tonight. I watch every BYU game and they suck.Have beaten teams way worse than TCU in my opinion by barely any points. That spread is a gift and I see BYU losing by more than 14 points. The QB is only good at rushing and sucks at passing and throws the ball up for grabs more often than not. I see at least 2 ints for BYUs QB tonight too.Also it's in TCU. Game has murder written all over it.
                                                    No one knows a team better then a diehard fan...............
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                                                    • Jay2k1civic
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                                                      • 11-07-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      really? IM a DIE HARD YANKEE FAN.....DID I SEE THEM LOSING TO THE TIGERS? HELLL NOOOO.....well that 1% considering they dominated the yankees throughout season play
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                                                      • Demonata
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Jay2k1civic
                                                        That was a huge upset....ranked number 3.....ANYONE that picked the money line on that game was +1000 ..... Dont come on your lil computer talking shit....calling people names because growing up thats how you were treated.....I understand man not everyone can be as cool as you right now
                                                        So Upsets never happen in college football or the NFL? I was not talking any "shit" just stating that to base this game off those makes no sense. If you wont act like a moron I wont call you a moron. Deal?
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                                                        • Jay2k1civic
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                                                          • 11-07-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          all of RED SOX NATION thought the playoffs were a LOCK......and we all know those are DIE HARD FANS......SO DIE HARD FANS ARE JUST AS CLUELESS
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                                                          • Jay2k1civic
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                                                            #30
                                                            i was only stating that huge upset....always upsets.....shit who thought the cardinals would of made it this far August 15th......NOBODY!.... always upsets.....But you said blow out......and i feel like you'd be jinxing it....thats all.....
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                                                            • Demonata
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Jay2k1civic
                                                              all of RED SOX NATION thought the playoffs were a LOCK......and we all know those are DIE HARD FANS......SO DIE HARD FANS ARE JUST AS CLUELESS
                                                              Well I'm a die hard fan that predicts my team(BYU) losing tonight.
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                                                              • Demonata
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                                                                #32
                                                                There is no such thing as jinxing it. Just think other BYU fans are probably saying they will win but are they jinxing it? Jinxing does not exist.
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                                                                • Jay2k1civic
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  So when the announcer said that josh Hamilton has not hit a home run this world series and the next pitch gone. That's not jinxing? School me real quick expert
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                                                                  • Demonata
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Jay2k1civic
                                                                    So when the announcer said that josh Hamilton has not hit a home run this world series and the next pitch gone. That's not jinxing? School me real quick expert
                                                                    So he affected the game? It had nothing to do with Josh Hamilton hitting it on his own? Jinxing does not exist. Theres always people saying the opposites of every game so how can there be jinxing if people cheer for both?
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                                                                    • Jusscallmez
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                                                                      • 10-02-11
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Over is the play here
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