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  • Vin_vermillion
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    • 01-24-11
    • 1537

    #36
    Originally posted by Pickma$ter
    Was hoping for more than that as Im still open on this game. Anyone can score on Nebraska as they are near(3rd from last) dead last in total defense in the big 10. Im just really concerned with the line play of michigan state and Denard will make plays trust me Michigan State already knows that. All the numbers are skewed due to lack of competion on both teams cant trust them on this game.

    I doubt Michigan scores 20 pts in this game. You're basing your decision more on offense, (Michigan good, MSU bad) and I am basing it more on defense (MSU good Michigan way suspect - check the yardage they gave up against the likes of W Michigan, Nwestern, and SDSU - three not very good teams).

    AS I said, I dont do write ups...sorry I didnt give you more....
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    • travismcilrath
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-20-07
      • 536

      #37
      texas will get there buts kicked
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      • Pickma$ter
        SBR High Roller
        • 11-15-10
        • 240

        #38
        Originally posted by No coincidences
        Denard made plays on MSU last year, too. Problem was, when it came down to making a big one, he mucked it up almost every time. I can't wait to see what Gholston does in this game. That guy's a star in the making.
        Very True he did cost them the game last year as I was actually at that game lol.
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        • Vin_vermillion
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          • 01-24-11
          • 1537

          #39
          tell me something guys - If D robinson throws three INT in the first half like he did last week....do you think Michigan will be in this game? No way.
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          • Pickma$ter
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-15-10
            • 240

            #40
            Very true michigan does give up yardage. But have you not noticed they will shut down drives eliminating the opposing team to score by great defensive coaching.
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            • Vin_vermillion
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              • 01-24-11
              • 1537

              #41
              pick master? Are you a Michigan fan? I am thinking so, and I think you want someone to talk you into thinking you are correct on the Wolverines pick.

              LOL

              Not trying to be a jerk - just asking.

              That said, I am A ND fan who follows ND, Michigan and OSU very carefully, and usually can guess their sides correctly....

              I have nothing personally against Michigan, but I am not sold on your team....they'll get there under Hoke, but they arent there yet IMO.
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              • Pickma$ter
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-15-10
                • 240

                #42
                Originally posted by Vin_vermillion
                tell me something guys - If D robinson throws three INT in the first half like he did last week....do you think Michigan will be in this game? No way.
                If MSU has 3 turnovers in the first half will they win? serously provide something better.
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                • Pickma$ter
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 11-15-10
                  • 240

                  #43
                  Im a fan of $ not a team, but can never turn down free tickets to ann arbor!!!
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                  • Pickma$ter
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 11-15-10
                    • 240

                    #44
                    Not sold on Michigan either as they are not a top 10 team but they are getting better each week and MSU isn't much of an juggernot.
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                    • dume walker
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-08-10
                      • 971

                      #45
                      I haven't made up my mind on whether to go with MI against MSU or not, but here are some interesting facts to consider...

                      Michigan has allowed just 21 second-half points in six games and has forced nine second-half turnovers.

                      Northwestern had the ball for just 2 minutes, 32 seconds during the third quarter.

                      The Wolverines entered the game allowing just 10.2 points per game, second in the nation and down from 35.2 last season.

                      Robinson was jacked in the first half, overthrew his receivers for 3 INT's. His teammates got him to settle down at halftime. He came back and had a solid second half in which MI outscored NW 28-0.

                      Oh, and BTW, I went to Purdue and Ohio State, so I am anything but a Michigan homer.
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                      • Scuba Gooding Jr
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-18-11
                        • 173

                        #46
                        To me this game come's down to weather or not MSU can run the ball against UM. Since 2010 MSU has ran for an average of 174 ypg in their wins and only 38 ypg in their losses. Meanwhile UM has given up an average of 134 ypg on the ground this year and 142 against their top three opponents Notre Dame, Northwestern and SDSU. I think that Michigan State will be able to get Bell and Baker going early and often and keep Robinson off the field while pounding UM's defense. Im taking Michigan State -3 in this one.
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                        • vagolf
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                          • 09-26-11
                          • 26

                          #47
                          If MSU shuts down the run game/scrambling of Robinson and forces him into more passing situations then MSU can certainly pull this off. But the line is probably spot on and could go either way especially if Michigan can get a few big plays.
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                          • LockPickMaster
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-15-09
                            • 1943

                            #48
                            MSU -1.5 now on 5dimes
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                            • Vin_vermillion
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                              • 01-24-11
                              • 1537

                              #49
                              Originally posted by LockPickMaster
                              MSU -1.5 now on 5dimes

                              That's awesome. Easy money.
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                              • cranzter
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 04-07-11
                                • 174

                                #50
                                the last couple of years, I have gone big with msu, but this year im going to go ML on UofM
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                                • The Bet Master
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-29-10
                                  • 2665

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by vagolf
                                  If MSU shuts down the run game/scrambling of Robinson and forces him into more passing situations then MSU can certainly pull this off. But the line is probably spot on and could go either way especially if Michigan can get a few big plays.
                                  Honestly if any team can do this they win.
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                                  • ram1502
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-26-08
                                    • 822

                                    #52
                                    I've loved this game since I saw it on the schedule and was hoping Mich St would open as favs. However, I hate the fact that everybody and their uncle will be coming out of the woodwork to take the #11 as an underdog to the #23 team. This will be a highly public Joe schmoe play and the linesmakers knew that when they released the line. I see Michigan rolling but it has to be a pass to me unless those percentages at least begin to swing...I also expect to see late "smart money" pour in on Mich St sat morning.
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                                    • Brutus84
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-08-11
                                      • 5188

                                      #53
                                      Michigan State rolls. I live here but not a fan of either, Michigan is the same talent wise but better coaching. Michigan State is better talent wise but I think injuries to Oline and just not putting it all together has hurt them. They will not lose in their new jerseys. Get outta here!
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                                      • GoBlue23
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-04-10
                                        • 1302

                                        #54
                                        Michigan State's offense is anemic. That game they played against Ohio St. looked like pre WWII football. While Ohio st's D is decent and deserves some credit...the INTs by Cousins were awful. They should've beat Ohio St. by 3 scores with that defensive performance.

                                        If you take MSU, your basically betting that the D limits Michigan to scoring somewhere in the low-20s...which is absolutely possibly. I know UM's defense is no prize, but they are improved, and more importantly have a top 3 D coordinator who knows how to call plays, use personnel, and MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. MSU wins if the hold down UM's offense. If Michigan scores over 24, the Spartans are in big trouble.

                                        Just my 2 cents...BOL
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                                        • Brutus84
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-08-11
                                          • 5188

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by GoBlue23
                                          Michigan State's offense is anemic. That game they played against Ohio St. looked like pre WWII football. While Ohio st's D is decent and deserves some credit...the INTs by Cousins were awful. They should've beat Ohio St. by 3 scores with that defensive performance.

                                          If you take MSU, your basically betting that the D limits Michigan to scoring somewhere in the low-20s...which is absolutely possibly. I know UM's defense is no prize, but they are improved, and more importantly have a top 3 D coordinator who knows how to call plays, use personnel, and MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. MSU wins if the hold down UM's offense. If Michigan scores over 24, the Spartans are in big trouble.

                                          Just my 2 cents...BOL
                                          Yea you guys know how to make adjustments congrats. You shouldn't have to make adjustments to teams like E. Michigan, W. Michigan, and Northwestern. Michigan fans are the worst and I am ashamed people think I am a Michigan fan.
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                                          • GoBlue23
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-04-10
                                            • 1302

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Brutus84
                                            Yea you guys know how to make adjustments congrats. You shouldn't have to make adjustments to teams like E. Michigan, W. Michigan, and Northwestern. Michigan fans are the worst and I am ashamed people think I am a Michigan fan.
                                            Geez, cool story/personal attack bro. No where in my post did I say that Michigan was a juggarnaut or to bet them here. Nor did I attack any team or fan. I simply provided my input...which was Michigan State has struggled and will continue to struggle to score. Guess that makes me a terrible fan

                                            Sorry I offended you. Hope your teams starts playing better/winning if that will make you less bitter.
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                                            • bspring
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 09-27-11
                                              • 180

                                              #57
                                              gonna be a HEAVY dose of Baker, Bell and Caper spelling... mattison will load the box up and cousins (who everyone has forgotten about, and thrown his ass under the bus) can and will hit the suspect Michigan Secondary over the top.

                                              Key to this game will be TO's plain and simply IMO... Adjustments can be made by the greatest coach/OC/DC of all time but as we see in the college game adjustments cant account for momentum...
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                                              • GoBlue23
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-04-10
                                                • 1302

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by bspring
                                                gonna be a HEAVY dose of Baker, Bell and Caper spelling... mattison will load the box up and cousins (who everyone has forgotten about, and thrown his ass under the bus) can and will hit the suspect Michigan Secondary over the top.

                                                Key to this game will be TO's plain and simply IMO... Adjustments can be made by the greatest coach/OC/DC of all time but as we see in the college game adjustments cant account for momentum...
                                                Agreed. TOs are the key to any football game. That's what made Jim Tressel such a great coach at Ohio St. and YSU. His teams always won the TO battle, had solid special teams play, and rarely committed stupid penalties. People like to bag on him now cause of the trouble...but only because of how good he was.

                                                Also with you with MSU's RBs and Cousins. The question is will MSU's O-line be able to give any of them any help? They have been wretched this year and the injuries have obviously not helped.

                                                I thought before the season began that Cousins would be the best QB in the B1G...and that includes Russel Wilson. Hasn't come close to expectations so far, whether that be his o-line or what idk. The talent and recievers are there...he just looks off so far. Him having a great game wouldn't surprise me at all.
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                                                • Sunde91
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                  • 8325

                                                  #59
                                                  pk at BM now what the hell
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                                                  • No coincidences
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                    • 76300

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Sunde91
                                                    pk at BM now what the hell


                                                    Wow. I figured a dip to -2.5 or even -2, but didn't see this coming.
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                                                    • orangeheaven
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 02-28-10
                                                      • 451

                                                      #61
                                                      MSU 1st half is the play.
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                                                      • Vin_vermillion
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                                                        • 01-24-11
                                                        • 1537

                                                        #62
                                                        MSU
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