Horns ML

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Bondite
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-21-09
    • 164

    #1
    Horns ML
    Let me start by saying that yes I am a HUGE Longhorn fan, as Im sure I will be bashed for after this write up. However, lets think about this...this is a big game for both times, contrary to last year when Texas knew there season was probably not going anywhere after and early loss to UCLA, yet it was still a close game. OU was far and away the stronger team last year, and on paper this year as well for that matter. Last year UT rolled out there arguably the worst QB in school history in Gilbert, absolutely no running game, and a team and coaching staff who at that point had already had the air sucked out of them. Once again, all that being said it was a close game. This year UT has 2 very capable quarterbacks, not only capable but very different in what they can do for an offense and a team. Case Mccoy is a gamer, period. Ash is a stud and will eventually become a great QB in college and has all the tools to excel in the NFL as well. Not only does Texas have the revenge factor working for them, but they are playing against a coach who lets face it has a reputation for slipping up when his team has its highest expectations, which begs the question who the hell coined the phrase "Big game Stoops", must of been sarcasm. OU has dropped from 1 to 3 without losing a game, pretty tough to do but face it they really have not done anything special at all. Sure LSU didnt help the cause by going on the road and dismantling ranked opponents, but what has OU shown us. They have an overated QB, and there big win was a 10 point game against an FSU team that has proven to be way way way OVERRATED. AND FSU didnt even have their starting QB in the clutch. Malcolm Brown and Whittaker will provide a solid enough ground attack to provide some holes in play action and better believe Mack and new Offensive Coordinator have some tricks up their sleeves, Mack might want this game just as bad as he wanted the Rose Bowl. 10 points is an absolute joke. Dont get me wrong ill have a big play on the spread, but why not take a ml huge value pick in a Rivalry game with essentially 2 top 10 teams and bcs implications on the line. Nothing like the red river shootout, 2 great programs who happen to have a TON on the line when they play this year. A UT win will catapult them to a big 12 championship, and the bcs title game. Hookem!
  • zuluhead1``1
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-07-10
    • 733

    #2
    Well you had me until the end there bro.
    Comment
    • Bondite
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-21-09
      • 164

      #3
      HAH, might have gone a little overboard there at the end, might lose my username on this site if OU wins by 30
      Comment
      • zuluhead1``1
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-07-10
        • 733

        #4
        Also, Roll Tide.
        Comment
        • nj1035
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-19-09
          • 902

          #5
          Originally posted by zuluhead1``1
          Also, Roll Tide.
          If Colt had played..... =)
          Comment
          • zuluhead1``1
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-07-10
            • 733

            #6
            Originally posted by nj1035
            If Colt had played..... =)
            Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at nigh

            Daddy McCoy was worried about that NFL paycheck.
            Comment
            • Bondite
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-21-09
              • 164

              #7
              I was actually referring to the "VY" bowl that UT won, Speaking of Gilbert he is officially transferring, sad story for a kid to have to go through that, maybe his talent will shine through in a different color
              Comment
              • csknight3
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-19-10
                • 629

                #8
                The only reason I could see UT maybe even having a shot would be because OU hasn't considered as Texas a threat all year long and haven't really prepared for them like Texas has for OU. Also now that they have a very new style of offense with Ash and MCcoy that could catch OU off guard. But thats a small chance. Texas has played better than expected this year yes but what have THEY DONE as well. They haven't faced a good defense. OUs defense hits hard. Idk if you saw the FSU game but FSU played bad the next week because OU hurt half of FSU's team. I think these UT players will be in for a big surprise when they start taking big hits from this scary OU D. Also the QBs will have more pressure than ever. BOL though.
                Comment
                • antifoil
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-11-09
                  • 3993

                  #9
                  the only way texas can win is to run the ball and control the game. they need the game to be low scoring because they aren't going to be about to win a shootout. they also will need to get free points via a turnover or special teams play.
                  Comment
                  • FREEMONEY
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 10-04-11
                    • 2

                    #10
                    Originally posted by zuluhead1``1

                    Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at nigh

                    Daddy McCoy was worried about that NFL paycheck.
                    I was at the Rose Bowl that night. I'm not going to use the "If Colt would have played" excuse, but I think we were all robbed out of what could have been a GREAT game if Colt would have stayed healthy.

                    Trust me, Colt sitting wasn't his dads decision. He could barely lift his arm above his shoulder and they said he couldn't even throw the ball 5 yards in the locker room. His arm was absolutely dead from the nerve damage. If Colt thought he could have helped the team out by playing he would have played.

                    Also, Texas is 7-1-1 against Bama all time, we had to let you guys win one, right?
                    Comment
                    • Bondite
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 12-21-09
                      • 164

                      #11
                      Sure wish that wasn't the one we lost....I do like the point that OU probably hasn't prepared as hard for Texas as vice versa or as they would have in the past, OU has probably been looking toward bedlam since their win at Mizzou. Either way should be a great game and is always a great atmosphere for college football in general.
                      Comment
                      • Gonz312
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-22-11
                        • 1467

                        #12
                        I woudn't buy into any nonsense about OU not preparing properly for Texas because they don't see them as a threat or they are overlooking them. First off, they are playing for a national title which means they HAVE to win every single game to even get there. Secondly, the majority of that team was born and raised in Texas and know the history and magnitude of this rivalry game within the state. Whether Texas is fielding a good team or a horrible team, they want to go out there and dominate them in front of their families and such.
                        Comment
                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          It would not surprise me at all if Texas won outright. Oklahoma has only faced one good pass defense all year in Florida State, and Noles held Sooners to season low in points and Jones to under 200 passing yards. Texas's pass defense is better than FSU's.
                          Comment
                          • Machine Choice
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-12-08
                            • 3997

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                            Texas's pass defense is better than FSU's.
                            Possibly the most absurd thing I have read on this site in three years. Burn yourself.
                            Comment
                            • brahmabull117
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-08-10
                              • 8622

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                              It would not surprise me at all if Texas won outright. Oklahoma has only faced one good pass defense all year in Florida State, and Noles held Sooners to season low in points and Jones to under 200 passing yards. Texas's pass defense is better than FSU's.

                              and OU still won by 10 pts on the road, this is a neutral matchup against a much less experienced team and you think UT has a legitimate shot to win this game outright???




                              UT has less than a 10 percent chance of winning this game
                              Comment
                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                Possibly the most absurd thing I have read on this site in three years. Burn yourself.
                                Talk to me at the end of the year. Texas is allowing 4.9 yards per pass, FSU 6.8. Take away FSU's meeting with Oklahoma, and both schedules have been equally weak. You can argue Clemson is good, but it is still an ACC team, and Big 12 > ACC. We will see in the coming weeks if the Texas D is for real, and I think they are with an experienced back seven.
                                Comment
                                • Coach Jake
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 09-24-11
                                  • 457

                                  #17
                                  I'm from Texas originally and I spend my Novembers and bowl seasons in Corpus. With that said, I think the longhors fans can be redic, lol. I'm sorry bondite, but UT don't have the juice this year. Im lovin the new coordinator Harsin, but Texas is a very young team this year. I like Case Mccoy, but how good is he really? How he bounces back from these guaranteed shots will determine the game. Considering the history of the game I dont think playing the spread is a bad idea, but I do think the moneyline is a waste of money.

                                  No matter which way you slice it, Mack Brown is still the head coach and he is a recruiter soon to be athletic director for a reason. He won't win any more national titles, and should've won 2 more with Applewhite and Sherrod Harris.

                                  We all knew it was a bad sign when Gilbert threw the National Title game and everyone listened to the Texas "he did pretty good" propoganda, lol
                                  Comment
                                  • LT Profits
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-27-06
                                    • 90963

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                    and OU still won by 10 pts on the road, this is a neutral matchup against a much less experienced team and you think UT has a legitimate shot to win this game outright???




                                    UT has less than a 10 percent chance of winning this game
                                    But Texas will score more points than Noles did.
                                    Comment
                                    • Machine Choice
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-12-08
                                      • 3997

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                      Talk to me at the end of the year. Texas is allowing 4.9 yards per pass, FSU 6.8. Take away FSU's meeting with Oklahoma, and both schedules have been equally weak. You can argue Clemson is good.
                                      Yeah, I'll argue that Clemson is good, since they are ranked 8th in the country. Don't try to compare FSU's stats to Texas...not at this point in the year. I'll see you in December.
                                      Comment
                                      • Bondite
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-21-09
                                        • 164

                                        #20
                                        Well before I respond to the most absurd thing I have heard all night, which is slightly more ridicilous than the statement that Texas has less than 10% of winning this game, I will address Coach Jake...I am going to take this with a grain of salt and assume you were kidding when you say that Gilbert threw the National Championship so that fans could hype him up for the future saying he did pretty good in the NC as a freshman. I, for one, was not very impressed with him. Sure as a freshman he threw a couple of good balls buts lets not discount the mistakes he made, big ones. Less than 10%, cmon thats a joke. And please can we all get off the FSU train, they are not good, they were overated preseason, once again. By the way, I know for almost certain that LT profits is a much better overall capper than most of the people bashing the horns in this game, I have been on this site following for awhile and I know who the good ones are. Coach Jake and Brahmabull let me quote you before you say it..."Why dont you just hop on Lt because hes the only one that agrees with you." Keep doubting the qb's who are "not durable" or too skinny to take a beating, what did colt way his senior year, 180? Big time players show up in these games, Colt did, I think and hope his brother and D Ash will as well.
                                        Comment
                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                          Yeah, I'll argue that Clemson is good, since they are ranked 8th in the country. Don't try to compare FSU's stats to Texas...not at this point in the year. I'll see you in December.
                                          Right exactly, that's why I stressed we will see if Texas defense is for real in the coming weeks. I do think ACC is weak though and wouldn't get too excited about Clemson just yet. Rankings are meaningless.
                                          Comment
                                          • nj1035
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 11-19-09
                                            • 902

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Coach Jake
                                            I'm from Texas originally and I spend my Novembers and bowl seasons in Corpus. With that said, I think the longhors fans can be redic, lol. I'm sorry bondite, but UT don't have the juice this year. Im lovin the new coordinator Harsin, but Texas is a very young team this year. I like Case Mccoy, but how good is he really? How he bounces back from these guaranteed shots will determine the game. Considering the history of the game I dont think playing the spread is a bad idea, but I do think the moneyline is a waste of money.

                                            No matter which way you slice it, Mack Brown is still the head coach and he is a recruiter soon to be athletic director for a reason. He won't win any more national titles, and should've won 2 more with Applewhite and Sherrod Harris.

                                            We all knew it was a bad sign when Gilbert threw the National Title game and everyone listened to the Texas "he did pretty good" propoganda, lol
                                            Sherrod Harris? Whaaa.....huh? Dude you kind of lost all credibility there.

                                            And just for the record - it's looking like Ash is going to be the starter within the next few games if not the OU game.
                                            Comment
                                            • LT Profits
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-27-06
                                              • 90963

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by nj1035
                                              Sherrod Harris? Whaaa.....huh? Dude you kind of lost all credibility there.

                                              And just for the record - it's looking like Ash is going to be the starter within the next few games if not the OU game.
                                              I think Mack is sticking with the 2 QB rotation, so it doesn't much matter who "starts". I hate it myself, but it is what it is and at least neither QB has been making the same mistakes Gilbert made.................................... ......................................ye t.
                                              Comment
                                              • Coach Jake
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 09-24-11
                                                • 457

                                                #24
                                                Sherrod Harris and John Chiles had both played qb as Mccoy's backups in that offense for years, but Mack the recruiter promised the #2 rated recruit the backup spot which he hardly even ever played that whole year, and then sent him out to blow that game.

                                                You see I don't blame Gilbert, but I think Mack Brown might be the worst big game coach out there. I Never forgave him for benching Applewhite in a sure title year.....Ive never heard of a coach that benches the schools leading passer for no reason.

                                                Dumb coach aside, Texas' D was gutted by the NFL draft, especially in the secondary. Lost 3 legit corners, and the best db is Blake Gideon, the dude who dropped the easiest pick ever in the Tech loss. That leaves no-one to cover Ryan Broyles. Shut down Broyles and you shut down OU. I think no matter what, OU puts up at least 30 pts....

                                                I think the realistic odds for Texas winning are from %20-%40...personally I think it's around %25
                                                Comment
                                                • Coach Jake
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 09-24-11
                                                  • 457

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by nj1035
                                                  Sherrod Harris? Whaaa.....huh? Dude you kind of lost all credibility there.

                                                  And just for the record - it's looking like Ash is going to be the starter within the next few games if not the OU game.
                                                  Not knowing Sherrod Harris doesn't give you reason to hate him. He was a much better fit in that system than Gilbert, and knew the system. There was no reason to play Gilbert other than Mack Brown promised him as a recruit.

                                                  Chiles was the true backup the year before and threw %80, so I don't see why you're trying to pick a bone about a kid you don't know anyways
                                                  Comment
                                                  • Coach Jake
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 09-24-11
                                                    • 457

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                    I think Mack is sticking with the 2 QB rotation, so it doesn't much matter who "starts". I hate it myself, but it is what it is and at least neither QB has been making the same mistakes Gilbert made.................................... ......................................ye t.

                                                    Harsin is the one making those decisions. The last offensive decision Mack made was to go back to the "downhill running attack" that got Davis' ass fired. He's feelin more like an AD every day
                                                    Comment
                                                    • nj1035
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-19-09
                                                      • 902

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Coach Jake
                                                      Not knowing Sherrod Harris doesn't give you reason to hate him. He was a much better fit in that system than Gilbert, and knew the system. There was no reason to play Gilbert other than Mack Brown promised him as a recruit.

                                                      Chiles was the true backup the year before and threw %80, so I don't see why you're trying to pick a bone about a kid you don't know anyways
                                                      I know who he is - I'm just in awe that you say he should have a won a national championship with him. What?
                                                      Comment
                                                      • nj1035
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-19-09
                                                        • 902

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                        I think Mack is sticking with the 2 QB rotation, so it doesn't much matter who "starts". I hate it myself, but it is what it is and at least neither QB has been making the same mistakes Gilbert made.................................... ......................................ye t.
                                                        Right but what I'm saying is Ash is going to be getting most of the snaps from here on out. I think McCoys time is going to dwindle.
                                                        Comment
                                                        • RenoHightower
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 09-20-11
                                                          • 225

                                                          #29
                                                          OU gonna stomp that fuking a$$ and I'll be there to watch it...OU by 17! Stop listening to Ketch with his false hopes and dreams.
                                                          Comment
                                                          • Coach Jake
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 09-24-11
                                                            • 457

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by nj1035
                                                            I know who he is - I'm just in awe that you say he should have a won a national championship with him. What?
                                                            idk if you remember, but the Texas defense made this a game. It all even came down to the last drive where Gilbert threw his 4th pick. Throwing the freshman to the sharks and leaving him in a 3 ints was one of the worst coaching decisions I've ever seen, but you can defend it all you want.

                                                            Sherrod Harris was a legit quarterback and could have won on his legs alone, go google him
                                                            Comment
                                                            • Coach Jake
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 09-24-11
                                                              • 457

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by nj1035
                                                              Right but what I'm saying is Ash is going to be getting most of the snaps from here on out. I think McCoys time is going to dwindle.
                                                              And what in the world makes you think Ash is going to start? He has a worse completion percentage with half of the passes thrown, makes no sense

                                                              Maybe you should leave Texas for the Texans, lol
                                                              Comment
                                                              • antifoil
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-11-09
                                                                • 3993

                                                                #32
                                                                what statistical model did that guy use to get less than 10 percent chance. if he has a model where he is saying the books are off by over 15 percent than why is he posting on an internet message board? with that kind of edge over a book he should have already retired.

                                                                could i get a look at that data where you are getting this less than 10 percent please?
                                                                Comment
                                                                • nj1035
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 11-19-09
                                                                  • 902

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Coach Jake
                                                                  And what in the world makes you think Ash is going to start? He has a worse completion percentage with half of the passes thrown, makes no sense

                                                                  Maybe you should leave Texas for the Texans, lol
                                                                  Because he's better. I actually like Case a lot - he's much better than Gilbert. But Ash has much more talent than either of them.. I think Case may start this game but they will probably split the snaps evenly or give more to Ash. I think he's the guy they see as their future QB.
                                                                  Comment
                                                                  Search
                                                                  Collapse
                                                                  SBR Contests
                                                                  Collapse
                                                                  Top-Rated US Sportsbooks
                                                                  Collapse
                                                                  Working...