Prepare for Cal to fake injuries to slow down the Oregon offense. Last year's game was 15-13
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brahmabull117
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#7
Oregon by at least 30 in this one
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brahmabull117
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#8
Originally posted by wilwin
Prepare for Cal to fake injuries to slow down the Oregon offense. Last year's game was 15-13
I don't put too much stock into that game, Oregon beat themselves in that game as Cal lost by almost 40 the next week to Stanford
Cal doesn't have the personell to play a close game on the road against a team like Oregon as long as Oregon plays at least close to their capacity
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paranoyd androyd
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#9
over
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Inkwell77
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02-03-11
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#10
Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
over
There's no number yet, is there? I do like the over though if it is less than 62, Cal has got to score at least 21, (but I have a feeling they will get closer to 30) and with a line of Oregon -24 that puts the total at 65 if the line is accurate.
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brahmabull117
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#11
the spread here is as close to free $ as you will see in sports gambling
Oregon, heading back to the beginning of last season, has won 8 of their last 10 home games by more than 24 points (the only 2 games they did not win by 24+ were 19 and 21 point wins against good ranked teams in stanford and arizona). They haven't played a game that was decided by less than 35 against a team of this caliber in that time period. California last season lost 3 of their 4 road games against respectable opponents last year by 21,34,28. They did play a close ugly and sloppy game against Arizona that AU would have won by 30 if they executed better
Now California played a close game last year at home to Oregon but this is a different team on the road, they are respectable at home and just horrible on the road. Oregon is also a great team to play these big spreads on because of their uptempo style tends to build monster leads that are impossible to backdoor
Oregon - 56
California - 17
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thetrinity
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01-25-11
22430
#12
the home road splits between these teams are drastic.
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alpha968
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03-20-11
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#13
Originally posted by brahmabull117
I don't put too much stock into that game, Oregon beat themselves in that game as Cal lost by almost 40 the next week to Stanford
It's not that as much as Cal was (and arguably is) much better at stopping the run, particularly upfront before the line gets tired. It didn't matter too much against Stanford the following week as Andrew Luck torched the secondary. It's just an issue of match-up, not talent.
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brahmabull117
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#14
Originally posted by alpha968
It's not that as much as Cal was (and arguably is) much better at stopping the run, particularly upfront before the line gets tired. It didn't matter too much against Stanford the following week as Andrew Luck torched the secondary. It's just an issue of match-up, not talent.
Oregon put up 56 points last year at home vs Stanford, which has a 10 times better run (and overall defense than California)
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dozer
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#15
this is oregons rebound game on national tv. listen, they lost to the best team in country opening week. that game was close until 3rd and turnovers. line is about what i expected was thinking 21. they will score 50. you think they let up 25 at home? i dont and 50 is on the low side. eugene is a tough place to play. u know they want to show the world they are still nations most prolific ofense. you know chip is a douche....hell he'll probably go for 2 like 3 or 4 times......basically getting a free FieldGoal out of the game imo. probably anything over the 50 on 4th down if it ever happens as well. i dont think he cares about embarrassing teams and this one might get like that.....whats cal have? a freakin receiver and the rest average. a wr is the easiest thing to gameplan for and stop. cal cannot and will not keep up from start toi finish.....lemichael needs to get back to heisman convo with huge night imo.
good luck with whatever you play
i am on oregon. line could go to 28 and i still would be on them.
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ebbearsfb1
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12-07-08
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#16
Cliff harris will take the reciever right out of the game
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dozer
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#17
he didnt play against lsu did he? he is return man too right?
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sandman0713
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2036
#18
Originally posted by dozer
this is oregons rebound game on national tv. listen, they lost to the best team in country opening week. that game was close until 3rd and turnovers. line is about what i expected was thinking 21. they will score 50. you think they let up 25 at home? i dont and 50 is on the low side. eugene is a tough place to play. u know they want to show the world they are still nations most prolific ofense. you know chip is a douche....hell he'll probably go for 2 like 3 or 4 times......basically getting a free FieldGoal out of the game imo. probably anything over the 50 on 4th down if it ever happens as well. i dont think he cares about embarrassing teams and this one might get like that.....whats cal have? a freakin receiver and the rest average. a wr is the easiest thing to gameplan for and stop. cal cannot and will not keep up from start toi finish.....lemichael needs to get back to heisman convo with huge night imo. good luck with whatever you play i am on oregon. line could go to 28 and i still would be on them.
i had a hard time deciding which comment above to quote...but this one will work.
"line is about what i expected was thinking 21. they will score 50. you think they let up 25 at home?"
take out sorry ass mizzou state and they "let up" 30 points per game
"u know they want to show the world they are still nations most prolific ofense."
problem with this "ofense" is that it struggles against a good run d, as someone stated earlier. they don't have the deep threat to back the d up, so the short stuff gets swarmed. cal has a very good run d.
"whats cal have? a freakin receiver and the rest average. a wr is the easiest thing to gameplan for and stop."
how about 2 of the best wrs in the pac 10. they average like 300 passing yards per game...and oregon just gave up 500 total yards to zona. they also have a pretty solid running game, which zona did not.
"lemichael needs to get back to heisman convo with huge night imo."
he will have to do it against a pretty good run d that will have 8 up front.
ok man...not trying to be an ass. i just see a lot of dumb posts above by people not even saying anything. come on back and rip me if i am wrong...but at least i have looked at both sides of the game. the linesmakers set the over at 62 btw which should tell you a little about what they think. either they think oregon has a really, really, good d...which i doubt since i just mentioned they gave up 500 last week...or they think cal keeps up and controls the tempo. i don't know what i am betting yet. i do know that if you have under 62 you will prolly be like 1 of 3 people in the country...lol. i also don't see this as "the closest thing to free money"...or whatever that brilliant quote was. playing those huge fav's no matter what starts busting you about this time in the season. good luck with whatever though...i don't even know if i am betting it. just wanted to make a case for the other side.
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brahmabull117
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#19
Originally posted by sandman0713
i had a hard time deciding which comment above to quote...but this one will work. "line is about what i expected was thinking 21. they will score 50. you think they let up 25 at home?" take out sorry ass mizzou state and they "let up" 30 points per game "u know they want to show the world they are still nations most prolific ofense." problem with this "ofense" is that it struggles against a good run d, as someone stated earlier. they don't have the deep threat to back the d up, so the short stuff gets swarmed. cal has a very good run d. "whats cal have? a freakin receiver and the rest average. a wr is the easiest thing to gameplan for and stop." how about 2 of the best wrs in the pac 10. they average like 300 passing yards per game...and oregon just gave up 500 total yards to zona. they also have a pretty solid running game, which zona did not. "lemichael needs to get back to heisman convo with huge night imo." he will have to do it against a pretty good run d that will have 8 up front. ok man...not trying to be an ass. i just see a lot of dumb posts above by people not even saying anything. come on back and rip me if i am wrong...but at least i have looked at both sides of the game. the linesmakers set the over at 62 btw which should tell you a little about what they think. either they think oregon has a really, really, good d...which i doubt since i just mentioned they gave up 500 last week...or they think cal keeps up and controls the tempo. i don't know what i am betting yet. i do know that if you have under 62 you will prolly be like 1 of 3 people in the country...lol. i also don't see this as "the closest thing to free money"...or whatever that brilliant quote was. playing those huge fav's no matter what starts busting you about this time in the season. good luck with whatever though...i don't even know if i am betting it. just wanted to make a case for the other side.
you're ridiculously overrating Cal
this is still the same team that has lost 5 straight road games with 3 of the 5 by at least 21 points
Oregon did not play well last year at Cal, but they blew em out the year before by 39 at home...which tells you the huuuuge difference with this cal team. They are very solid at home but they are one of the worst ATS road teams in the country almost every year
also people playing the under in this game are utterly retarded, the Over is 17-6 the last 23 games at home for Oregon
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sandman0713
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#20
no man...i am not doing that. i think cal is somewhere in the middle of the pac 12 overall. i just think there may be a little more going on than you think...like maybe it is a bad matchup for oregon. not every -24 and over 62 is easy money. i been at this almost 20 years now, and if it was you could bet i would have figured it out by now. always starts out with the fav's hitting and the easy overs hitting...but about this time EVERY year the dogs start barking and people start to re-up those online accounts. you may well be right on this game...and i am sure you will let me know if you are. just terms like "easy money" that you use all the time piss me off. anyways...good luck manwith whoever. i may be on it small just to play something...but nothing large. i don't really want to get into a fight about it. just posting the other side to the "easy money" theory.
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sandman0713
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2036
#21
btw...the 39 they blew them out by the year before...i think that had a lot to do with the oregon d and not so much where the game was. if i remember right i am thinking the oregon d was pretty dam good that year. dude they are not good at all this year. cal is not great, but they are more balanced and better overall on o than zona...and they do have a stout run d. oregon gave up 500 yards to zona and only won by 25 i think. just saying not everything is so easy.
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brahmabull117
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#22
Originally posted by sandman0713
not every -24 and over 62 is easy money.
no but when it's a terrible road team only getting 24 points against a team that routinely wins games by 30-40+ points, it's as close to free $ as possible
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ebbearsfb1
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12-07-08
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#23
Originally posted by dozer
he didnt play against lsu did he? he is return man too right?
not sure if he returns anymore, but they got a bunch of monsters who can return kicks... and right he didnt play against lsu
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brahmabull117
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#24
Originally posted by sandman0713
btw...the 39 they blew them out by the year before...i think that had a lot to do with the oregon d and not so much where the game was. if i remember right i am thinking the oregon d was pretty dam good that year. dude they are not good at all this year. cal is not great, but they are more balanced and better overall on o than zona...and they do have a stout run d. oregon gave up 500 yards to zona and only won by 25 i think. just saying not everything is so easy.
Oregon defense has been excellent this year, you're looking at the numbers blindly without analyzing what's really happening
They gave up 40 points mainly due to a terrible offensive effort that constantly gave LSU incredible field position. Oregon only gave up 290 yards in that game against a great LSU offensive line on the road. Take away all the turnovers and Oregon defense would have only given up about 14 - 24 points
They gave up 20 points to Nevada because they were up a million points and nearly everything nevada scored was in garbage time. If oregon cared, they would have shut them out
They gave up 31 points to Arizona after they were up 32 points early and cruised to an easy victory in the second half. That was a road game too against a much better offense than Cal (I'm sorry but Foles is a mile better than anybody on Cal)
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sandman0713
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09-10-11
2036
#25
get you a straw and suck up that easy money then man. just like the easy money boise against tulsa that wouldn't even cover a teaser...and the easy money baylor that barely hit. that teaser was supposed to be "like a trip to the atm machine" it was soooooo easy. i can't talk to you bro. if you see that much value in oregon laying 24 then suck it up man. i don't really give a shit who wins or by how much, so i will leave you to it.
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brahmabull117
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#26
Originally posted by sandman0713
get you a straw and suck up that easy money then man. just like the easy money boise against tulsa that wouldn't even cover a teaser...and the easy money baylor that barely hit. that teaser was supposed to be "like a trip to the atm machine" it was soooooo easy. i can't talk to you bro. if you see that much value in oregon laying 24 then suck it up man. i don't really give a shit who wins or by how much, so i will leave you to it.
Boise is a different team than what we have seen in the past. They used to try to win every game by 70 points and leave Moore in there to throw for a million yards
they pulled moore early in teh 3rd quarter up 34-0 against Tulsa, who could have seen that coming?? Last year's boise team would have won that game by 40 points. There's no way to 'cap that
with that being said, Oregon is a completely different team than Boise. Oregon is an uptempo team that tends to build monster leads that are impossible to backdoor because they are just so big (think about that nevada game, they were up 41-7 at half)
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sandman0713
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2036
#27
wtf do i even bother? they were 7-6 ats last year and they are 2-2 so far this year...meaning they lose ats just about 50% of the time. take that as far back as you want to go with just about any team man...50% like everything else with vegas. btw...did you let your book know that boise stopped playing in the 3rd quarter? did you get your money back? how about all those that see you with 5000 posts here and how this was equal to going to the atm...did they get a refund on whatever they unloaded? you throw those easy money terms around way too much man is all i was trying to say to you. if you f'ing lose or have to sweat out a cover then it isn't really easy money now is it? anyways...say whatever you want after this and it is cool. don't want to spend my whole week bickering over a game i don't really give a shit about.
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Inkwell77
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#28
Oregon's secondary is relatively weak (compared to the offense) and has been for the last few years with last year being a bit of an anomaly. Cliff Harris is good, but he can't guard everybody.
If you have followed Oregon for the past few years in tight games Oregon has given up passing yards. What happens is the ducks usually get up by 20 points and teams stop running the ball and Oregon can sit back and not worry about the run. Even Arizona was throwing all over the place with very little run threat. I actually think Oregon's defense is kinda weak all around this year with the d line and linebackers being a bit down compared to last year. Cal is legit, and I think they keep this game close at least through the 1st half. Maynard will get points against the Ducks. Tedford will plan a quality offensive scheme. Cal's D is a bigger question mark.
Oregon at home is a beast, and Kelly is a dick and doesn't give a fukk and wants to win every game by 70 so it is hard to bet against em....
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brahmabull117
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#29
Originally posted by Inkwell77
Oregon's secondary is relatively weak (compared to the offense) and has been for the last few years with last year being a bit of an anomaly. Cliff Harris is good, but he can't guard everybody. If you have followed Oregon for the past few years in tight games Oregon has given up passing yards. What happens is the ducks usually get up by 20 points and teams stop running the ball and Oregon can sit back and not worry about the run. Even Arizona was throwing all over the place with very little run threat. I actually think Oregon's defense is kinda weak all around this year with the d line and linebackers being a bit down compared to last year. Cal is legit, and I think they keep this game close at least through the 1st half. Maynard will get points against the Ducks. Tedford will plan a quality offensive scheme. Cal's D is a bigger question mark. Oregon at home is a beast, and Kelly is a dick and doesn't give a fukk and wants to win every game by 70 so it is hard to bet against em....
the over here is free $$$$ I think
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Brett
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01-17-10
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#30
Zona can throw on anyone, foles is a monster, not the same situation here
Oregon at home=moneys
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dozer
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#31
wash scored 32 against cal...hell fresno scored 26. if anyone doesnt think oregon is at least 2 tds better than either one of those shitboxes then i have nothing more to say, more like 4 tds better imo. oregon and over. oregon team over as well.
3 team parlay, as well as three single bets.
im done with this game...movin on.
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travismcilrath
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11-20-07
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#32
i agree
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BigDan
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04-28-11
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#33
Originally posted by dozer
this is oregons rebound game on national tv. listen, they lost to the best team in country opening week.
When did the Ducks play bama?
no opinion on gm really, im allergic to "free money thur" but certainly not trying to fade the Ducks at that place....BOL
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NYSportsGuy210
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11-07-09
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#34
I like the OVER here. Then again it could en up like 48-13....
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brahmabull117
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#35
Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
I like the OVER here. Then again it could en up like 48-13....
TT on oregon should be about 38-41, that's free money. Oregon averages about 54-58 points per game at home