MGM Grand not honoring "USC -7.5" tickets.

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  • HoulihansTX
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-12-09
    • 30566

    #1
    MGM Grand not honoring "USC -7.5" tickets.
    They have a longstanding rule that they do not honor games that are "under protest", or have had their final scores adjusted.

    MGM Grand sees the final as 17-14 USC win.
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    I have talked to two different people who tore up their USC tickets, which they bet @ other sportsbooks. They had to claim their tickets lost, which a book will pay you for. Although you have to wait 3 months B4 receiving your monies.
  • HawkEye
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-13-10
    • 237

    #2
    bodog.com has it as 23-14. my utah +8 lost, cost me $2000.
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    • chrisharvard01
      Restricted User
      • 10-24-08
      • 2943

      #3
      sharp post houlihan
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      • ehp6737
        SBR MVP
        • 12-11-08
        • 4185

        #4
        Wish all books would've taken this stance
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        • v1y
          SBR MVP
          • 05-02-11
          • 1138

          #5
          Shitty situation for everyone.
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          • ChuckyTheGoat
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 04-04-11
            • 38271

            #6
            Caesars didn't pay the -7.5. Doesn't seem right.
            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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            • balls2wall
              SBR MVP
              • 12-20-09
              • 2642

              #7
              Originally posted by HawkEye
              bodog.com has it as 23-14. my utah +8 lost, cost me $2000.

              Yeah, I had my Utah +8 racked up as a win to wake up the next day and see it lost
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              • big joe 1212
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-01-08
                • 19380

                #8
                what happened? i didnt see it.
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                • luckythansmart
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 05-19-11
                  • 117

                  #9
                  I got screwed also. Had Utah 2H w/ Sanford 2H Action Rev marked as a win then 2 hrs later changed to a lost. If I was in Vegas I would have cashed it right after the game but online screwed me. How and why the fuk Pac 12 change it 2 hrs later. I can see a few minutes after bt 2 hrs. It ridiculous.
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                  • Stumpage
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-21-05
                    • 2906

                    #10
                    Originally posted by big joe 1212
                    what happened? i didnt see it.

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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Originally posted by HawkEye
                      bodog.com has it as 23-14. my utah +8 lost, cost me $2000.
                      Online books all paid off at 23-14 since that was the official score and it is very easy for them to take back Utah winnings that were paid early. Vegas is different because Utah tickets were physically cashed before the scoring change, so I guess brick and mortar books can set their own in-house policies. There really is no right or wrong because you can make a case either way, so you just have to go with whatever your particular book's ruling is.
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                      • Santo
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-08-05
                        • 2957

                        #12
                        The MGM rule actually makes sense in Vegas; people cashed Utah tickets right when the match finished so if they honoured USC they'd have to pay out twice. Online, nobody pays out (in terms of cash) straight away.
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                        • dark star
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-04-09
                          • 3900

                          #13
                          F*** the Pac 10 for getting involved hours later
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                          • Stallion
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-21-10
                            • 3617

                            #14
                            They had to get involved so they could cash all there USC tickets.
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                            • edawg
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-09-11
                              • 2866

                              #15
                              B.S. this should be uniform rules across the board for all books! B.S. rule to begin with just lets the refs have even more influence on the spread and totals!
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                              • zert
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-22-09
                                • 1274

                                #16
                                I wish they would of at least made it a no-play since I lost on that and a couple of other last play turnovers that scored and beat the spread.
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                                • Grits n' Gravy
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 13024

                                  #17
                                  The rules for these kind of things are displayed in all Vegas books. Not a surprise to regular players.
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                                  • austintx05
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-24-06
                                    • 3156

                                    #18
                                    whoa
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                                    • pokernut9999
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-25-07
                                      • 12757

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                      The rules for these kind of things are displayed in all Vegas books. Not a surprise to regular players.




                                      Someone that gets it


                                      Too many people never read the rules.
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                                      • Powderguy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-18-09
                                        • 6939

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by dark star
                                        F*** the Pac 10 for getting involved hours later
                                        Pac 12 you scrub
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                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Powderguy
                                          Pac 12 you scrub
                                          Pac-16 in a few years
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                                          • Pokerjoe
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 04-17-09
                                            • 704

                                            #22
                                            MGM made the right decision. Anything else means no game is ever final, no bet can ever be paid off, and thus no bet can ever be taken.
                                            If you're going to let a game grade change a few hours after it ends, then why not a few more hours, or a day, or two days, or a year...
                                            It has to settle at the score at game's end. Nothing else will work.
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                                            • HoulihansTX
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-12-09
                                              • 30566

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                                              MGM made the right decision. Anything else means no game is ever final, no bet can ever be paid off, and thus no bet can ever be taken.
                                              If you're going to let a game grade change a few hours after it ends, then why not a few more hours, or a day, or two days, or a year...
                                              It has to settle at the score at game's end. Nothing else will work.
                                              Under the Gaming Commissions rules. Sportsbooks have 24hrs to change scores of games. After that, the scores stand. Now individual sportbooks may have their own "House Rules", which must be clearly shown for all to see within the sportsbook, for the 24 hour period.
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                                              • Chuck Sims
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-29-05
                                                • 3072

                                                #24
                                                USC bettors have a strong case if they complain to the NGC. PAC 12 official said there was no overturned score. According to the official the press box got the score wrong when they reported a 17-14 final. The game ended with the score 23-14.
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                                                • chachi
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-16-07
                                                  • 4571

                                                  #25
                                                  But what if the online book / brick-n-mortar shop rules state the official settlement is the AP or whatever news feed as published post-game ?

                                                  Was an issue in the UK with a promotion with Coral on a 90+ minute goal triggering a refund, as per the TV broadcast's on-screen clock the goal was scored at 89:50 or thereabouts, but official timing/stats/etc declared it scored as post 90:00 ... book paid out on the promotion and changed T&Cs that from now on the clock as shown on the broadcast is the settlement.
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