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  • mofome
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    • 12-19-07
    • 13003

    #1
    12 most embarrassing NCAAF Games of 08
    Monday, we took a broad look at the schedules for the Division I-A conferences. Now, we're getting more specific, with a list of the 12 most embarrassing games of the season. On Wednesday, we'll look at the 12 best non-conference games of the season.

    A couple of things before we start:

    # First, we do not care about the back story of why some of these games came about. We're fully aware that some "Big Six" league schools had to scramble to find an opponent when another school pulled out. We also know this: Less than two weeks ago, two Division I-A teams coming off bowl wins – Fresno State and Rutgers – signed to play Sept. 1. What that means, of course, is that if a "Big Six" team truly wanted to play someone else, it could've.

    # Second, we're referring to games against "Division I-AA" teams. We know the NCAA now refers to that division as the "Football Championship Subdivision." But we still use the "I-AA moniker" as a sort of protest; the NCAA has far more important matters to attend to than worrying about a name change for its football divisions.

    # Third – and most important – we are not being derisive of or impugning I-AA football. We're fully aware that the top six or so I-AA programs could play in any league in Division I-A – and do quite well in some of the non-"Big Six" leagues. We're fully aware that another 10 or so I-AA programs would fare well in the non-"Big Six" leagues. And we're not averse to I-A/I-AA games per se. What we don't like is "Big Six"-league teams scheduling games against bad I-AA teams. (Eleven of the 12 "Big Six" programs we're spotlighting went to bowls last season.) You'll notice that none of the games we've selected involve top-level I-AA programs.

    So, without further ado, here are the 12 most embarrassing games this season involving "Big Six" schools and I-AA programs:

    12. Murray State at Indiana, Sept. 6: Indiana is coming off its first winning season since 1994, and playing the Racers is a good way to get a victory. Murray State used to be a solid I-AA program, but the Racers have won just 33 games this decade (4.5 victories per season) and only five in the past three seasons.

    11. The Citadel at Florida, Nov. 22: The Citadel isn't horrible – the Bulldogs were 7-4 last season. But that was just its second winning season in the past 13. Plus, it's a horrible date to be playing a I-AA team. This will be Florida's final home game of the season. Playing a mediocre I-AA program – that's sure a nice way to send out the seniors.

    10. Cal Poly at Wisconsin, Nov. 22: It's not that Cal Poly is bad; the Mustangs were 7-4 last season. It's just that as with the Florida-Citadel game, the timing of this one is weak: This will be the final game of the regular season for Wisconsin. Yeah, a I-AA game on the last big weekend of the season will fire up the fans. The fine establishments on State Street will be filled by the middle of the third quarter by fans who have left Camp-Randall Stadium.

    9. Southeast Missouri at Missouri, Sept. 6: We'll give Missouri credit for one thing: If you're going to beat up on a bad I-AA team (SEMO was 3-8 last season), at least do it to a team from your state.

    8./7. UT Martin at USF, Aug. 30/UT Martin at Auburn, Nov. 8: Since 1988, UT Martin has had three winning seasons – and 11 seasons with three or fewer wins. Playing the Skyhawks as your season-opener is bad enough. But playing them in early November truly is weak. Yes, that's homecoming weekend for Auburn. But while it's important to win on homecoming, shouldn't the opposition provide just a teensy bit of intrigue?

    6. Northern Colorado at Purdue, Sept. 6: Northern Colorado was 1-11 last season, which means Purdue should be able to chew up and spit out the Bears to get outgoing coach Joe Tiller's last go-round off to a good start.

    5. Rhode Island at Boston College, Sept. 27: This would have some intrigue if it were a basketball game. Alas …. The Colonial Athletic Association may be the best I-AA league, but Rhode Island is one of the CAA's worst programs. The Rams have finished with a losing record in 11 of the past 12 seasons – never winning more than four games in those losing seasons – and 19 of the past 22. If Boston College wants to play a I-AA program based in the Northeast, play Massachusetts or New Hampshire, not Rhode Island.

    4. Charleston Southern at Miami, Aug. 28: This is the first of two Miamis that Charleston Southern – which is in the Big South Conference and finished 5-6 last season – will play this season. The Bucs play at Miami (Ohio) on Sept. 13. This is a Thursday night game and the first for the Hurricanes at Dolphin Stadium. Is anybody going to be there?

    3. Western Carolina at Florida State, Sept. 6/Chattanooga at Florida State, Sept. 13: Chattanooga and Western Carolina are the two worst programs in the Southern Conference; they combined to go 3-19 last season. Plus, these are the first two home games of the season for the Seminoles (yeah, the fans will be psyched to see those "contests"). Then again, Florida State figures to be wracked by academic suspensions, so playing two patsies – and getting two more wins for Bobby Bowden – might be the best way to start the season.


    2. Coastal Carolina at Penn State, Aug. 30: Coastal Carolina? What, State College High wasn't available? Coastal Carolina was founded in 1954 – four years after Joe Paterno became an assistant at Penn State. Coastal Carolina started playing football in 2003 – which was Paterno's 38th season as Penn State's head coach (and, coincidentally, the worst season of his career). Given Paterno's largesse to Penn State's libraries – he has donated upward of $4 million – is it any surprise the Nittany Lions are playing a patsy whose nickname (the Chanticleers) is derived from Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales"? Maybe this is the start of an annual Big Ten-Big South Challenge (Coastal Carolina is in the Big South); for sure, it's a Challenge the Big Ten would win.

    1. Chattanooga at Oklahoma, Aug. 30: What in the world is Oklahoma doing playing Chattanooga, which has had just four winning seasons since 1988? The Mocs were 2-9 last season. In the past 20 seasons, the Mocs are 0-19 vs. Division I-A foes, losing those games by an average margin of 34 points per game. Only one of those games was decided by fewer than 14 points. Hey, perhaps OU folks figured a blowout of a bad I-AA team to open the season will erase some of the bad taste still remaining from the Fiesta Bowl beatdown administered by West Virginia
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  • jackpot269
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    • 09-24-07
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    #2
    Mo I agree with this write up 100%. but I live in the Chattanooga area and read article other day where mid-summer they were scrambling to get a money game, they have coaching ties to the Sooners and FSU became a good fit on scheduling ill try to find the article. I see what your saying about the 1-A schools playing them but Chattanooga definitely went looking for them to play! as you know im not a Sooner or FSU fan!!!!!!!
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    • BadNina
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      • 11-27-07
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      #3
      Of course, when the rare upset happens, it can totally ruin the entire season. Appalachian State anyone?
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      • BigLee55
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        • 03-03-08
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        #4
        Paterno likes to play smaller schools in their open games. It allows the school to boost their programs. They can recruit by saying "We play against Penn State." Thats why he plays teams like Akron and Youngstown State.
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        • mofome
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          • 12-19-07
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          #5
          Originally posted by BigLee55
          Paterno likes to play smaller schools in their open games. It allows the school to boost their programs. They can recruit by saying "We play against Penn State." Thats why he plays teams like Akron and Youngstown State.

          brainwashed.
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          • jackpot269
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            • 09-24-07
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            #6
            Originally posted by BigLee55
            Paterno likes to play smaller schools in their open games. It allows the school to boost their programs. They can recruit by saying "We play against Penn State." Thats why he plays teams like Akron and Youngstown State.
            I would think that they would want to play for Penn St.
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            • thegreatdiatchi
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              #7
              Since PSU likes to make their schedules extra early here is what we are looking at for the next few years:

              2008 Football Schedule

              Aug. 30 - Coastal Carolina
              Sept. 06 - Oregon State
              Sept. 13 - at Syracuse
              Sept. 20 - Temple
              Sept. 27 - Illinois
              Oct. 04 - at Purdue
              Oct. 11 - at Wisconsin
              Oct. 18 - Michigan
              Oct. 25 - at Ohio State
              Nov. 08 - at Iowa
              Nov. 15 - Indiana
              Nov. 22 - Michigan State

              2009 Football Schedule

              Sept. 05 - Eastern Michigan
              Sept. 12 - Syracuse
              Sept. 19 - Temple
              Sept. 26 - Iowa
              Oct. 03 - at Illinois
              Oct. 10 - Eastern Illinois
              Oct. 17 - Minnesota
              Oct. 24 - at Michigan
              Oct. 31 - at Northwestern
              Nov. 07 - Ohio State
              Nov. 14 - Indiana
              Nov. 21 - at Michigan State

              2010 Football Schedule

              Sept. 04 - Youngstown State
              Sept. 11 - at Alabama
              Sept. 25 - at Iowa
              Oct. 02 - Illinois
              Oct. 09 - TBD - Temple
              Oct. 16 - at Minnesota
              Oct. 23 - Michigan
              Oct. 30 - Northwestern
              Nov. 06 - at Ohio State
              Nov. 13 - at Indiana
              Nov. 20 - Michigan State

              What gets me about PSU isn't so much which I-AA or small school team they play but the non-conference I-A teams they play. I think JoePa has a mancrush on Temple - there is no other explanation as to why they are on the PSU schedule. I will give them credit though, 2010 looks like a much harder schedule than they had in past years. I wish ND kept PSU on their schedule & I also wish ND would simply join a good conference because i'm sick of people bashing their schedule.
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              • thegreatdiatchi
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                #8
                Future ND Schedules:

                2008

                Sept. 6 SAN DIEGO STATE
                Sept. 13 MICHIGAN
                Sept. 20 at Michigan State
                Sept. 27 PURDUE
                Oct. 4 STANFORD
                Oct. 11 at North Carolina
                Oct. 25 at Washington
                Nov. 1 PITTSBURGH
                Nov. 8 at Boston College
                Nov. 15 at Navy (Baltimore)
                Nov. 22 SYRACUSE
                Nov. 29 at USC

                2009

                Sept. 5 NEVADA
                Sept. 12 at Michigan
                Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE
                Sept. 26 at Purdue
                Oct. 3 WASHINGTON
                Oct. 17 USC
                Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE
                Oct. 31 Washington State (at San Antonio, TX)
                Nov. 7 NAVY
                Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh
                Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT
                Nov. 28 at Stanford

                2010

                (all games tentative)

                Sept. 4 PURDUE
                Sept. 11 MICHIGAN
                Sept. 18 at Michigan State
                Sept. 25 STANFORD
                Oct. 2 at Boston College
                Oct. 9 PITTSBURGH
                Oct. 16 Army (at Chicago, IL)
                Oct. 23 at Navy (Baltimore)
                Nov. 6 HOUSTON?
                Nov. 13 RUTGERS?
                Nov. 20 TBA
                Nov. 27 at USC

                2011

                (all games tentative)

                Sept. 3 at Purdue
                Sept. 10 at Michigan
                Sept. 17 MICHIGAN STATE
                Sept. 24 at Pittsburgh
                Oct. 1 SOUTH FLORIDA
                Oct. 8 TBA
                Oct. 15 Army (at Orlando, FL)
                Oct. 22 USC
                Oct. 29 NAVY
                Nov. 5 CONNECTICUT
                Nov. 12 RUTGERS?
                Nov. 26 at Stanford

                2012

                (all games tentative)

                Sept. 1 Navy (at Dublin, Ireland)
                Sept. 8 PURDUE
                Sept. 15 at Michigan State
                Sept. 22 MICHIGAN
                Oct. 6 Baylor (at New Orleans, LA)
                Oct. 13 STANFORD?
                Oct. 20 PITTSBURGH
                Oct. 27 at Oklahoma
                Nov. 3 TBA
                Nov. 10 TBA
                Nov. 17 WAKE FOREST
                Nov. 24 at USC

                2013

                (all games tentative)

                Aug. 31 WASHINGTON STATE?
                Sept. 7 at Michigan
                Sept. 14 at Purdue
                Sept. 21 MICHIGAN STATE
                Sept. 28 OKLAHOMA
                Oct. 5 Arizona State (at Arlington, TX)
                Oct. 19 USC
                Oct. 26 Connecticut (at Foxboro, MA)
                Nov. 2 NAVY
                Nov. 9 PITTSBURGH/CINCINNATI
                Nov. 16 at Rutgers
                TBA ARMY?

                2014

                (all games tentative)

                Aug. 30 TBA
                Sept. 6 at Navy
                Sept. 13 PURDUE
                Sept. 20 MICHIGAN
                Oct. 4 TBA
                Oct. 11 Army (at Orlando, FL)
                Oct. 18 CONNECTICUT
                Oct. 25 at Arizona State
                Nov. 8 PITTSBURGH
                Nov. 15 Rutgers (at E. Rutherford, NJ)
                Nov. 22 TBA
                Nov. 29 at USC

                2015

                (all games tentative)

                Sept. 5 MISSOURI
                Sept. 12 at Michigan
                Sept. 19 at Purdue
                Sept. 26 TBA
                Oct. 3 ARMY?
                Oct. 10 NAVY
                Oct. 17 USC
                Oct. 24 Connecticut (at E. Rutherford, NJ)
                Nov. 2 TBA
                Nov. 7 TBA
                Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh
                Nov. 21 RUTGERS

                2016

                (all games tentative)

                Sept. 3 TBA
                Sept. 10 MICHIGAN
                Sept. 17 STANFORD
                Sept. 24 at Michigan State
                Oct. 1 TBA
                Oct. 8 TBA
                Oct. 15 at Navy
                Oct. 29 PITTSBURGH
                Nov. 5 Rutgers (at E. Rutherford, NJ)
                Nov. 12 CONNECTICUT
                Nov. 19 at Army
                Nov. 26 at USC

                I remember when we played 3 top 10 teams/season - and actually beat 1 or 2 of them.
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                • mofome
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                  • 12-19-07
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi
                  Since PSU likes to make their schedules extra early here is what we are looking at for the next few years:

                  2008 Football Schedule

                  Aug. 30 - Coastal Carolina
                  Sept. 06 - Oregon State
                  Sept. 13 - at Syracuse
                  Sept. 20 - Temple
                  Sept. 27 - Illinois
                  Oct. 04 - at Purdue
                  Oct. 11 - at Wisconsin
                  Oct. 18 - Michigan
                  Oct. 25 - at Ohio State
                  Nov. 08 - at Iowa
                  Nov. 15 - Indiana
                  Nov. 22 - Michigan State

                  2009 Football Schedule

                  Sept. 05 - Eastern Michigan
                  Sept. 12 - Syracuse
                  Sept. 19 - Temple
                  Sept. 26 - Iowa
                  Oct. 03 - at Illinois
                  Oct. 10 - Eastern Illinois
                  Oct. 17 - Minnesota
                  Oct. 24 - at Michigan
                  Oct. 31 - at Northwestern
                  Nov. 07 - Ohio State
                  Nov. 14 - Indiana
                  Nov. 21 - at Michigan State

                  2010 Football Schedule

                  Sept. 04 - Youngstown State
                  Sept. 11 - at Alabama
                  Sept. 25 - at Iowa
                  Oct. 02 - Illinois
                  Oct. 09 - TBD - Temple
                  Oct. 16 - at Minnesota
                  Oct. 23 - Michigan
                  Oct. 30 - Northwestern
                  Nov. 06 - at Ohio State
                  Nov. 13 - at Indiana
                  Nov. 20 - Michigan State

                  What gets me about PSU isn't so much which I-AA or small school team they play but the non-conference I-A teams they play. I think JoePa has a mancrush on Temple - there is no other explanation as to why they are on the PSU schedule. I will give them credit though, 2010 looks like a much harder schedule than they had in past years. I wish ND kept PSU on their schedule & I also wish ND would simply join a good conference because i'm sick of people bashing their schedule.

                  psu plays in a dog shit conference and adds temple/coastal car

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                  • BigLee55
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                    • 03-03-08
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                    #10
                    Brainwashed? I bleed blue and white like you bleed orange and White mo. and if you don't think psu plays teams to help out their programs then you are all on drugs better than mine. They play Temple so much because its a struggling program in the state of PA and its a sell-out or close to sell-out game for temple and for the PSU alumni in the state. We have one of the largest fan bases, especially fans that travel to away games, in the nation. Its guaranteed money for those smaller school.

                    As for the Big Ten being a shitty conf? They aren't in the range of SEC lately, but then again who is in foots. But they def are one of the top confs in football. OSU played, poorly, but still played in the Natl Champ game the last 2 seasons. Michigan has a good program, PSU is solid ( And plays well against the SEC). So everyone can hate on PSU but its mostly because we have a good program and we have a great school.

                    As for mario and his ND? **** ND they are a joke. Charlie sux, quinn is over rated, they should have lost ever game last year, UCLA should be made a 1-aa school for losing to ND first. And that schedule of theirs? Playing in Ireland? Thats a joke, the real irish couldn't care less about American football and Notre Dame! See the name NOTRE DAME! ITS FRENCH! If they keep playing powerhouses like Navy and UNC, UCONN and Army maaaaaybe they will finally win another National Championship. They need to join a conference first though.
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                    • mofome
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                      • 12-19-07
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigLee55
                      Brainwashed? I bleed blue and white like you bleed orange and White mo. and if you don't think psu plays teams to help out their programs then you are all on drugs better than mine. They play Temple so much because its a struggling program in the state of PA and its a sell-out or close to sell-out game for temple and for the PSU alumni in the state. We have one of the largest fan bases, especially fans that travel to away games, in the nation. Its guaranteed money for those smaller school.

                      As for the Big Ten being a shitty conf? They aren't in the range of SEC lately, but then again who is in foots. But they def are one of the top confs in football. OSU played, poorly, but still played in the Natl Champ game the last 2 seasons. Michigan has a good program, PSU is solid ( And plays well against the SEC). So everyone can hate on PSU but its mostly because we have a good program and we have a great school.

                      As for mario and his ND? **** ND they are a joke. Charlie sux, quinn is over rated, they should have lost ever game last year, UCLA should be made a 1-aa school for losing to ND first. And that schedule of theirs? Playing in Ireland? Thats a joke, the real irish couldn't care less about American football and Notre Dame! See the name NOTRE DAME! ITS FRENCH! If they keep playing powerhouses like Navy and UNC, UCONN and Army maaaaaybe they will finally win another National Championship. They need to join a conference first though.

                      Now this is adorable. Awwww, psu wants to help out youngstown state, yeah, im sure. Why do they play eastern michigan, pumpkin pie? is it because eastern mich is in PA and they want to help them? or, perhaps, because its an easy win? i like when you bring out the 'we care' card when defending the pathetic nature of psu's OOC schedule. maybe they could just send the school 1 million bucks and play someone real, that would please everyone im sure.


                      What part of PA is coastal carolina in? just north of pitt isn't it?
                      Last edited by mofome; 04-16-08, 09:46 AM.
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                      • BigLee55
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                        • 03-03-08
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                        #12
                        I wasn't playing the "we care" card i was just letting you know why Paterno plays smaller schools for our OOC schedule. But you like facts mo so here are the facts. ONly 5 loosing seasons for paterno. 372-125-3 overall record, thats a .744 win pct. 23-10-1 in bowl games thats a.676 win pct in bowl games!

                        PSU beats good teams just like it beats bad teams! You being a Tenn fan should know that we play hard against your team and every team we play.
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                        • mofome
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                          • Willie Bee
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigLee55
                            Paterno likes to play smaller schools in their open games. It allows the school to boost their programs. They can recruit by saying "We play against Penn State." Thats why he plays teams like Akron and Youngstown State.
                            Yeah, I'm sure JoPa is worried about boosting other programs. The war is going well in Iraq, too.
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                            • BadNina
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                              #15
                              The only reason OSU was in the "Championship" game the past two years is because they are the top dog in a weak conference. Which was demonstrated in that final game.
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                              • thegreatdiatchi
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                Yeah, I'm sure JoPa is worried about boosting other programs. The war is going well in Iraq, too.


                                Notre Dame has been dog shit the last few years and they do need to join a conference but part of the reason they are hated so much is because they have won so much in the past.
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                                • BigLee55
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                                  #17
                                  yeah cus psu hasn't won in the past always been a shit program. always had shit coaches. always got 5 star recruits that bust. always been in a shit conference.

                                  Oh wait maybe psu is hated because they win? Or they win without the help of all the 5 star recruits that go to schools like USC and OSU? They have been winning when they weren't in a conf, they have been winning in the Big Ten, and they will be winning after Paterno is dead!
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                                  • jackpot269
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BadNina
                                    The only reason OSU was in the "Championship" game the past two years is because they are the top dog in a weak conference. Which was demonstrated in that final game.
                                    In both of them
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                                    • BigLee55
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                                      • 03-03-08
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi
                                      Went to a career fair Tuesday & have a grad assistantship interview Monday sir. My plans are all in place I just need answers about grad school before I can do anything else.

                                      As for that silly chart you posted, I'll admit I do talk about the 1940's & 1950's teams alot when they stink but I don't bitch when they lose Bowl games. There are three things that you can say about Notre Dame football that are true.

                                      1. They haven't been the team that they should be since Holtz was coaching the team (1 national championship win & 2 close calls with him....and we actually had a 13-8 bowl record before he left, 13-6 before we went on the losing streak).
                                      2. They need to join a conference.
                                      3. Their fans have exactly the same rationale as Yankee fans.

                                      I'm giving Weis 2 years to turn this thing around. If not he's gone.
                                      Yeah but you aren't the typical ND fan. Most ND fans actually watch the games and know the players. So you are exempt from the chart.
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                                      • thegreatdiatchi
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mofome
                                        id say thats accurate.
                                        Yea, the entire topic makes me sad.
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                                        • thegreatdiatchi
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                                          #21
                                          Technical question here (off topic of this thread but important). Look at what the posts say and then tell me why is message #20 before message #34 on this thread? I posted message #20 a few minutes ago but somehow it got looped back to before noon where as the message I replied to was created after 1pm.
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                                          • thegreatdiatchi
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                                            #22
                                            Forum technical question here (off topic of this thread but important). Look at what the posts say and then tell me why is message #20 before message #34 on this thread? I posted message #20 a few minutes ago but somehow it got looped back to before noon where as the message I replied to was created after 1pm.
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                                            • mofome
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BigLee55
                                              Actually for that Game they were playing St. Mary's School for the Mentally Challenged. Its a Small 1-aa school from Scranton, PA. JoePa likes to boost small school's programs.


                                              Ah, i heard cee was their captain. how did he play?
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                                              • BigLee55
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                                Yeah, I'm sure JoPa is worried about boosting other programs. The war is going well in Iraq, too.
                                                There's a war in iraq??? Thought that was an occupation or invasion to milk a country of its resources for the benefit of Bush and his friends?
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                                                • thegreatdiatchi
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BigLee55
                                                  yeah cus psu hasn't won in the past always been a shit program. always had shit coaches. always got 5 star recruits that bust. always been in a shit conference.

                                                  Oh wait maybe psu is hated because they win? Or they win without the help of all the 5 star recruits that go to schools like USC and OSU? They have been winning when they weren't in a conf, they have been winning in the Big Ten, and they will be winning after Paterno is dead!
                                                  PSU would be nothing without JoPa. Once he is gone do you still think as many athletes will want to go to PSU? If anything I would think they would need to recruit even more once JoPa is gone in order to remain successful. I'm not saying they are going to go back to being a nothing school once he's gone. They will still be a solid team and at least in the middle of the pack in the Big 10. But unless they find another gem of a head coach I really don't see them staying the same or getting better.
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                                                  • BigLee55
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BadNina
                                                    The only reason OSU was in the "Championship" game the past two years is because they are the top dog in a weak conference. Which was demonstrated in that final game.
                                                    So by that wonderful reasoning West Virginia should have been in the Championship game? they were top dog in a weak conf. or maybe Hawaii deserved to be there? Hawaii plays in a Powerhouse conf.
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                                                    • thegreatdiatchi
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                                                      #27
                                                      I think right now the SEC is blowing every other conference out of the water as far as quality football teams go. The only way to fix the mess that is determining college football championships is a playoff.
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                                                      • BigLee55
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi
                                                        PSU would be nothing without JoPa. Once he is gone do you still think as many athletes will want to go to PSU? If anything I would think they would need to recruit even more once JoPa is gone in order to remain successful. I'm not saying they are going to go back to being a nothing school once he's gone. They will still be a solid team and at least in the middle of the pack in the Big 10. But unless they find another gem of a head coach I really don't see them staying the same or getting better.
                                                        The whole coaching staff develops the players, not just JoePa.
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                                                        • BigLee55
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi


                                                          Notre Dame has been dog shit the last few years and they do need to join a conference but part of the reason they are hated so much is because they have won so much in the past.


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                                                          • thegreatdiatchi
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BigLee55


                                                            Brad shouldn't you be at work?
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                                                            • BadNina
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BigLee55
                                                              So by that wonderful reasoning West Virginia should have been in the Championship game? they were top dog in a weak conf. or maybe Hawaii deserved to be there? Hawaii plays in a Powerhouse conf.
                                                              No, you missed my point completely. They had a great looking record based on wins in a weak conference. I never thought they deserved to be there and would get their collective butts handed to them against teams that play in tough conferences. Oh wait....that was exactly what happened. The polls have always been skewered to teams that the media loves and gushes over. They need a play-off in a bad way.
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                                                              • BigLee55
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                                                                • 03-03-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by mofome
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                                                                this is more fitting Mo..."The Pennsylvania State University: Better than Your School Since 1855"

                                                                that seems to be a good motto!
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                                                                • BigLee55
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                                                                  • 03-03-08
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BadNina
                                                                  No, you missed my point completely. They had a great looking record based on wins in a weak conference. I never thought they deserved to be there and would get their collective butts handed to them against teams that play in tough conferences. Oh wait....that was exactly what happened. The polls have always been skewered to teams that the media loves and gushes over. They need a play-off in a bad way.
                                                                  I agree with you there completely! OSU is a good football program that sucks balls against SEC teams. Did they deserve a shot at the title? Dunno, but for people to think that the Big Ten is a shitty conf is just funny in my opinion. Yeah they are no SEC, but no conference touches the SEC in football. But I feel that The Big Ten can hang with the Pac-10 The Big 12 or any other conference in the nation.
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                                                                  • BigLee55
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                                                                    • 03-03-08
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi
                                                                    Brad shouldn't you be at work?
                                                                    Shouldn't you be looking for a job?
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                                                                    • BadNina
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BigLee55
                                                                      I agree with you there completely! OSU is a good football program that sucks balls against SEC teams. Did they deserve a shot at the title? Dunno, but for people to think that the Big Ten is a shitty conf is just funny in my opinion. Yeah they are no SEC, but no conference touches the SEC in football. But I feel that The Big Ten can hang with the Pac-10 The Big 12 or any other conference in the nation.
                                                                      Let's face it. Some of the absolute greatest games in college football have come from Penn State playing Alabama. Dear heavens those were some great games.
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