Why is Baylor only -1 vs. Illinois?

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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Why is Baylor only -1 vs. Illinois?
  • BigDofBA
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #2
    Baylor has a better QB. Better coach. Is playing in it's homestate. More excited about the game, first bowl game in 16 years.....

    I don't get it either. I would feel better if it was -3.
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    • No coincidences
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-18-10
      • 76300

      #3
      Originally posted by BigDofBA
      Baylor has a better QB. Better coach. Is playing in it's homestate. More excited about the game, first bowl game in 16 years.....

      I don't get it either. I would feel better if it was -3.
      Yeah -- it opened at -2 and is now -1. Someone knows something that I don't.
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      • dozer
        Restricted User
        • 03-03-10
        • 1495

        #4
        im hopin that it means that people are betting on name and not quality of this years teams
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        • ShogunRua
          SBR MVP
          • 12-23-09
          • 4668

          #5
          Baylor's defense will have a tough time stopping Illinois consistently. If you've watched them play, you'd know what I mean. Having said that, I think i'm still going to take Baylor -1.
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          • tatddy
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-02-10
            • 10779

            #6
            Because they are going to lose.
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            • shopbar picks
              SBR MVP
              • 12-08-10
              • 2157

              #7
              we all watched ill go to fres st. And lay an egg. Baylor runs a better offense than fres st. They beat a sad texas team. But i really think they roll.
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              • jagaf22
                SBR MVP
                • 01-22-08
                • 2932

                #8
                I really like the over. Think both offenses score big!
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                • Cris_from_Europe
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 09-25-09
                  • 343

                  #9
                  Baylor FTW !!
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                  • bh9889
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-29-10
                    • 444

                    #10
                    Illinois will win this one in a nail biter. Better defense and special teams.
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                    • HilltopTony
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-09-10
                      • 767

                      #11
                      OVER cashes
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                      • oakas
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-17-07
                        • 1464

                        #12
                        Like Baylor here, but see alot of good cappers on Illinois.
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                        • SWBET
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 11-28-10
                          • 78

                          #13
                          I was surprised by the line as well may just take the over in this one
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                          • Vince Lombardi
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-23-08
                            • 841

                            #14
                            Baylor is getting disrespected by many who know nothing about them. Illinois is better known and has been in a bowl a few times in the last 16 years(even though they arent very good). Baylor is a much better team than Fresno. Lots of fools and their money will part today.
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                            • coachkap
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-03-09
                              • 746

                              #15
                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                              Why???? because Illinois is going to win...... NC read my forumthread...
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                              • coachkap
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 02-03-09
                                • 746

                                #16
                                Baylor is going to lay an egg.......
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                                • BigdaddyQH
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-09
                                  • 19530

                                  #17
                                  Never ask an open question like that, because the genuses in here will come back with great answers, like "they are going to win", and "over cashes". Try explaining why. The reason why the lie is only -1 is because the Big 12 does not get much respect, and deservingly so. Missouri played terrible against an Iowa team minus it's RB's and WR. People see the Big 10 and their three co-champs at 11-1 and the Big 12 and their champ at 10-2 and think that the Big 10 is far superior to the Big 12. In most cases, they are right, but not today.
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                                  • jas19illini
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-27-10
                                    • 682

                                    #18
                                    Baylor against teams with a decent/good running game:

                                    TCU rushed for 290 yds
                                    TT 173 yds
                                    Colorado 190 yds
                                    Texas 170 yds
                                    Okst 290 yds
                                    Tamu 147 yds
                                    Oklahoma 110 yds (they passed at will so didn't need to run)

                                    ....and even Buffalo 162 yds.

                                    Illinois averages 242 rushing yds per game and Baylor hasn't really seen a spread option attack like Illinois' this season. Illinois should be able to control the clock and keep Griffin on the sideline for a good chunk of the game. If it comes down to needing a stop Illinois' defense is slightly better.
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                                    • docbarnes
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 09-05-09
                                      • 127

                                      #19
                                      Is Ron Zook playing for his job?
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                                      • Mr Handicapable
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-23-07
                                        • 6067

                                        #20
                                        Baylor is my bowl play of the year...but then again Missouri was pretty high on my list too? (4-3 overall) Robert Griffith and the boys are just too explosive for Illinois! Baylor hasn't been to a bowl in forever so they should be sky high! Art Stiles is 100x better coach than Ron Zook! Illinois will pound out some scores but they're pretty one dimensional w/a frosh QB! I see something like 40-30...sort of a track meet!
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                                        • 3PtShooter
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-13-08
                                          • 3936

                                          #21
                                          some good insight
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                                          • Mr Handicapable
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-23-07
                                            • 6067

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                            Never ask an open question like that, because the genuses in here will come back with great answers, like "they are going to win", and "over cashes". Try explaining why. The reason why the lie is only -1 is because the Big 12 does not get much respect, and deservingly so. Missouri played terrible against an Iowa team minus it's RB's and WR. People see the Big 10 and their three co-champs at 11-1 and the Big 12 and their champ at 10-2 and think that the Big 10 is far superior to the Big 12. In most cases, they are right, but not today.
                                            I don't think the B10 is that hot this year...not that it affects this game that much?
                                            Stanzi for Iowa had 25 TDs/4 picks and he's average at best! Couldn't move Iowa whatsover 2H when they loaded up on the run....Iowa was lucky Gabbert gifted them the stupid pick-6!
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                                            • lonegambler
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-15-09
                                              • 2151

                                              #23
                                              when a team has odds stacked up against it roll with them just take alot at iowa last night that line was so fishy missouri had a very good year and only 3 point favs against a team missing there starting reciever and running back the line told u the under dog was live in iowa today that line looks fishy with baylor -1 aylor really took steps forward this year and illnni looking so bad against fresno y are the y only a 1 point dog here in this spot to me again it tells me that the line is giving us a live dog again bu just play the over a ton of points scored in this one
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                                              • Wolf40
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-09-10
                                                • 954

                                                #24
                                                Line getting even more fishy with 72% on Baylor and line moving to a Pick...
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                                                • azn624
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-29-09
                                                  • 2771

                                                  #25
                                                  Illinois -1 at pinny
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                                                  • pokerpro44
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-20-07
                                                    • 3138

                                                    #26
                                                    i am big on the over.gl.
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                                                    • Mr Handicapable
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-23-07
                                                      • 6067

                                                      #27
                                                      If Illinois comes all the way to Texas w/fresh QB and a moron coach and beats Baylor who has a better QB, coach, and a fired up crowd who hasn't seen Baylor in a bowl since Bush #1 then I guess I just don't know what I'm doing?
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                                                      • hankcream
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-30-10
                                                        • 2048

                                                        #28
                                                        I think this line is moving because of Iowa game last night now at a pick, dont be fooled people Robert Griffin III will have a field day against this weak Illini defense. Here's what I'm playing Baylor - 2.5 +128, easy money
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                                                        • Wolf40
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-09-10
                                                          • 954

                                                          #29
                                                          I just cant understand the line, why is it so low?? they are playing in Texas!!! that should be 2/3pts alone. I can't bite on Baylor.
                                                          I might be wrong but I just can't do it
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                                                          • pacocn
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-05-10
                                                            • 12934

                                                            #30
                                                            coach kap long time no see
                                                            is illinois a 4 star or 5?
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                                                            • Spartan14745
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-15-10
                                                              • 1032

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jas19illini
                                                              Baylor against teams with a decent/good running game:

                                                              TCU rushed for 290 yds
                                                              TT 173 yds
                                                              Colorado 190 yds
                                                              Texas 170 yds
                                                              Okst 290 yds
                                                              Tamu 147 yds
                                                              Oklahoma 110 yds (they passed at will so didn't need to run)

                                                              ....and even Buffalo 162 yds.

                                                              Illinois averages 242 rushing yds per game and Baylor hasn't really seen a spread option attack like Illinois' this season. Illinois should be able to control the clock and keep Griffin on the sideline for a good chunk of the game. If it comes down to needing a stop Illinois' defense is slightly better.
                                                              Thanks for the stats jas, you've got me holding up on my Baylor pick for the moment. Bowl game excitement and practically home field advantage is a plus in my opinion.
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                                                              • pacocn
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-05-10
                                                                • 12934

                                                                #32
                                                                no coin u really got a nice discussion going on this one
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                                                                • Ochocinco85mvp
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 11-29-10
                                                                  • 154

                                                                  #33
                                                                  lines pk now....
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                                                                  • pacocn
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-05-10
                                                                    • 12934

                                                                    #34
                                                                    what did home field advantage mean to
                                                                    hawaii
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                                                                    • Avon Barksdale
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 12-16-10
                                                                      • 838

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Baylor won't have much home advantage. They hardly have home advantage at their own home games IMO.
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