Ohio State #1 in AP is a JOKE !!!!

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Their strength of schedule rating is 117. They have not beaten a single team in the Sagarin Top 30.

The national sports media is clueless. If you let the AP poll dictate who you take in a game, you deserve to lose.

Compare Ohio State's strength of schedule (#117) against other teams: Oregon (#39), Boise State (#28), Stanford (#14), LSU (#20).

Ohio State will get exposed. My hope is that it comes in the national title game, with a bogus line that I can exploit. Another game where Ohio State gets dusted by a faster and stronger team by 30+ points.

[Machine Choice]

Here are some teams who would beat Ohio State right now on a neutral field:

Oregon (blowout)
TCU
Boise State
Stanford
Alabama (blowout)
FSU (blowout)

[gshock1]

I'm not an Ohio State backer, but didn't the Buckeyes lay a hurting on the Ducks last year on a neutral field? If memory serves me correctly, Ohio State neutralized Oregon's speed by laying the wood on them. Right now they do deserve to be #1. I would agree that Alabama and maybe Boise State could beat them but they would not be blown out by any means.

[HoulihansTX]

I'm not an Ohio State backer, but didn't the Buckeyes lay a hurting on the Ducks last year on a neutral field? If memory serves me correctly, Ohio State neutralized Oregon's speed by laying the wood on them. Right now they do deserve to be #1. I would agree that Alabama and maybe Boise State could beat them but they would not be blown out by any means.

Wrong.

The game was a coin flip until Oregon fumbled the ball into their own endzone late into the 3rd Qtr.

Nobody dominated that game.

[JayTrotter]

Ohio State would finish second in the WAC!

FSU and Stanford are a reach. The AQ schools get some special treatment, because they are special.. give us a playoff already so we can have some real fun..

[agharah1]

Just relax. Iowa gets them at home. They'll take care of it.

[kevinslack1016]

Here are some teams who would beat Ohio State right now on a neutral field:

Oregon (blowout)
TCU
Boise State
Stanford
Alabama (blowout)
FSU (blowout)

FSU beats Miami and now they can blow out Ohio st.???? Odd how you don't include Oklahoma on this list after they made FSU look absolutely foolish week 2

[Machine Choice]

FSU beats Miami and now they can blow out Ohio st.???? Odd how you don't include Oklahoma on this list after they made FSU look absolutely foolish week 2

Ohio State got Miami at home this year and beat them by 12.

FSU went to Miami's house and beat them by 28.

Thanks for proving my point. That said, Oklahoma would also beat OSU handily.

[wookieehumper]

Wrong.

The game was a coin flip until Oregon fumbled the ball into their own endzone late into the 3rd Qtr.

Nobody dominated that game.

Houlihans is an Ohio State / Big Ten hater. Clearly Ohio State was in control of the entire game, even if the scoreboard didn't show much separation at times. Oregon was being dominated in the trenches the entire game and could only score on flukey stuff.

[falconticket]

Boise projected to be #1 in the real rankings next Sunday. Ohio St. 5

[gshock1]

Houlihans is an Ohio State / Big Ten hater. Clearly Ohio State was in control of the entire game, even if the scoreboard didn't show much separation at times. Oregon was being dominated in the trenches the entire game and could only score on flukey stuff.

Exactly. Oregon simply ran out of tricks and gimmicks against a legitimate defense. Ohio State punished them @ the LOS on both sides.

[mv09]

Here are some teams who would beat Ohio State right now on a neutral field:

Oregon (blowout)
TCU
Boise State
Stanford
Alabama (blowout)
FSU (blowout)

With all due respect, that's insane. You're penalizing Ohio State because they haven't played anyone yet you're willing to say Boise would be Ohio State?? Boise hasn't played anyone since 2006.
Alabama would beat Ohio State. That's it.

[madworld]

With all due respect, that's insane. You're penalizing Ohio State because they haven't played anyone yet you're willing to say Boise would be Ohio State?? Boise hasn't played anyone since 2006.
Alabama would beat Ohio State. That's it.

Well I believe you are penalizing Boise St. I believe Utah, Boise St., and TCU can match up head to head with anybody in NCAA. The biggest difference with these teams is they dont have the depth that the big schools have because they dont get the same recruits. If you dont believe this lets look at the past couple years in BCS games and see what has happened. So on a neutral field these 3 teams could definetly beat Ohio St. Im not saying they would, but if Ohio St. was getting any more than 7 points I would be all over the underdog. So you are crazy to say the only team that would beat Ohio St. is Alabama,

[Mac4Lyfe]

OSU is legit this year. They have a great defense that is better than last year and they did shut down Oregon in the bowl. They have a good shot at winning the MNC this year. The only weakness I see is in special teams, RB play and Pryor at QB. TP is basically the running game but a good defense can contain him and force him to throw, which I still think he's average. Yet, if you look at any team, you will find flaws. OSU is about as legit as they come right now.

That said, at the beginning of the year I had them losing to Wisconsin and/or Iowa so we'll see. Too bad they don't play MSU this year. That would be a good game as well.

[bbar86]

Everybody relax, all will be right when the BCS rankings come out next week

[mtneer1212]

Just on the eye test, I believe the two best teams are Oregon and Nebraska, followed by Alabama, Ohio State, Boise, TCU, Oklahoma and Stanford.

[redrum]

why u think so they beat oregon in the rose bowl with masoli

[orangeheaven]

Boise State should be number 1.

[redrum]

they should be ranked higher than oregon with pryor back

[Serbone]

Here are some teams who would beat Ohio State right now on a neutral field:

Oregon (blowout)
TCU
Boise State
Stanford
Alabama (blowout)
FSU (blowout)

I agree Ohio State is not worthy; but they might if they go undefeated in the Big 10.
BUT where's Oklahoma and Nebraska? and Auburn?
Oklahoma and Nebraska have superior defensive players, 4*, 5*. That's the key.
That is the difference in the top programs, the best players in high school play "O", plenty to go around to recruit for top 30-50 programs.
EXAMPLES; Ok St, Tex A&M, MU all have top notch "O" but almost no quality "D" athletes.

Defense is the difference, Okla, Tex, Ala, GA, Fla, LSU, USC, OSU, and Nebraska (back recently after a 7-8 yr layoff!)... they get the 4* 5* beef on "D". Maybe one or two other teams, some yrs, but these are the consistent ones.

• Sooners took FSU apart, blowout, how can FSU be on there but not Oklahoma?
• Oregon and Stanford's "D" are weak
• Boise nice club but plays weak schedule... would not survive in SEC, would lose 2-3 games, 2 in the Big 12.
• Same with TCU, nice club... they would lose 2-3 games in grueling SEC or Big 12.

Alabama... they can still beat anyone, despite the loss... but they will be hard pressed to get into BCS Championship... will have to run the table and hope some other contenders lose.
IMO.

[zogdog]

It's still too early to say who's the best team. I would go with Alabama at #1 despite the loss. Garcia played the game of his life and there were some really dumb play calls on 'Bama's part, and poor decisions by McElroy.

[Serbone]

Boise State should be number 1.

Boise is solid be could not survive the SEC.
Ala, LSU, Fla, GA, SC, Ark, etc, grueling schedule beat you up.. then Miss St can beat you.
Or Ky if you let down. They's lose 2-3.
Same applies to Big 12, though not at tough, or Big 10, depend upon who you play and when.
No fault of Boise, they are in bumf*ck Idaho.
But they should not be ranked that high when it is all said and done, they beat a decent ACC VT team on the raod, though struggled, then beat a mid-Pac 10 Ore St at home by 12 or 13.
I am yawning.
I think Boise's only other decent opponent is Nevada. Look at the schedule.
If Bosie go undefeated, but OSU, Auburn, Oregon, or OK or NEB does (they both cannot, they would play in Big 12 Championship game), no way Boise deserves to get in BCS Championship game.

[hoop guru]

Boise st is lucky that they did not get to play oregon for a 3rd straight year. Boise was scared to play oregon and chose to play oregon st instead this year. Boise st knows how goood oregon is this year and decided not to play them. It would be a bad matchup for boise st to play oregon.

[Michigan]

I like Boise at number 1.

[Hat McCulloch]

why should Boise be #1? They beat a team in Va Tech who lost to James Madison and beat Oregon State. Probably in the end the 5th best team in the Pac 10

[TylerDurden]

Houlihans is an Ohio State / Big Ten hater. Clearly Ohio State was in control of the entire game, even if the scoreboard didn't show much separation at times. Oregon was being dominated in the trenches the entire game and could only score on flukey stuff.

Exactly. Oregon simply ran out of tricks and gimmicks against a legitimate defense. Ohio State punished them @ the LOS on both sides.

False. First off Oregon is not the team they were last year...they returned they're whole offensive line 2-deep and all but two players of their offense. While he may be a slight step down from Masoli as a power runner, Darron Thomas can stretch defenses out with downfield passing and is still quite capable of running the spread option. But by relieving this pressure of crowding vs the run he opens running lanes for James on the ground (averaging 170yds/game rushing). Arizona States defense is every bit as good OSU's and Oregon dropped 42 on them. And for those who say they don't play defense is idiotic as they've allowed 14 second-half points all season.

Prior had the best game of his career and he alone was the reason OSU won the rose bowl, not because Oregon got dominated. He repeatedly pulled out ridiculous 3rd and long plays by scrambling, finding open receivers, etc. It was not at all a matter of domination by either side, but rather a breakout game in which he played out of his mind...and the game was very tight until Oregon missed a FG mid-way through the 4th to cut it to one possession.

[MadTiger]

When the time comes at the end of the season, whoever wants to bet against Ohio State, PM me.

Period, end of discussion.

O-H-I-O

[sideline36]

Ohio state 8is full 9of baloney!!

[madworld]

Boise is solid be could not survive the SEC.
Ala, LSU, Fla, GA, SC, Ark, etc, grueling schedule beat you up.. then Miss St can beat you.
Or Ky if you let down. They's lose 2-3.
Same applies to Big 12, though not at tough, or Big 10, depend upon who you play and when.
No fault of Boise, they are in bumf*ck Idaho.
But they should not be ranked that high when it is all said and done, they beat a decent ACC VT team on the raod, though struggled, then beat a mid-Pac 10 Ore St at home by 12 or 13.
I am yawning.
I think Boise's only other decent opponent is Nevada. Look at the schedule.
If Bosie go undefeated, but OSU, Auburn, Oregon, or OK or NEB does (they both cannot, they would play in Big 12 Championship game), no way Boise deserves to get in BCS Championship game.

I disagee with you because if Boise St. was in the SEC they would get more players that are better because they are in the SEC. With the exact team they have now, you are absouletly right they would probably not be undefeated. But as I stated before Boise St., TCU, and Utah could play and beat any team in the NCAA. The main difference is these smaller schools is they don't get the top recruits because they are not in the big schools. So these recruiters and coachs go pick these athletes they see talent in and mold them into excellent team players. What do you think would happen if they could take some top prospects, and these diamonds in the rough. I believe they would hang around with the best. Give it 2-3 years with Utah in the Pac-10 and maybe then people will start believing that Utah has some excellent coaching and will be a National top team. Maybe I am wrong, but that is how I see it.

[MadTiger]

Ohio state 8is full 9of baloney!!

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[stefan084]

its a waste of time to argue w/ any of the big ten haters on this site, they will always find a reason why the slow, unworthy big ten team luckily managed to beat the flashier, speedier teams the media has told them are the best

[BigdaddyQH]

All of this talk about last year's Rose Bowl is completely off topic. Noonegives a caca about what happened last year. This year is what counts. If the BCS Poll came out today, Boise State would be #1 and Ohio State would be #5, according to those in the know. This will change, because Ohio State finally plays a decent team on the road. Wisconsin has laready lost a game, but represents the biggest test for the Buckeyes so far. As far as Iowa goes, they lost to an Arizona team that just lost to Oregon State, the same Oregon State team that lost to Boise State and TCU. So that shoots down any Big 10 homer arguments about SOS.

[stefan084]

not a homer just can't stand people who make sweeping generalizations about entire conferences

[hugh4310]

I agree with Bama but come on dude Ohio St has the best d in the country and when they let Pryor open it up they are pretty good, didn't we play oregon last year and didn't we hurt them! So before you run your mouth get your facts straight

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Ohio St has the best d in the country

Surely you don't believe this. Surely!! You have to be joking.

Here are at least four (there are MORE) defenses better than Ohio State: Iowa, TCU, Nebraska and Alabama.