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  • Patrick McIrish
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    • 09-15-05
    • 2864

    #71
    How do people come up with these conclusions after actually watching the game? Yeah the score looked bad but the Gators had 3 INT's and fumbled the ball 3 more times, losing it once. Some were critical, you have to score when down in the redzone, that jump pass was instrumental in this game getting away from them. Bama had ZERO turnovers. Sure it's part of the game but to see a Gator team come off a 24 game regular season winning streak yet be unable to realize that isn't or won't be par for the course is absurd. Florida (a very young team with no Rainey, an injured Demps and a center in Pouncey that is NOT a center) OUTGAINED this team!! Sure they lost, they deserved to lose, but to say they got destroyed is not even close to what happened on the field. They are young and made too many mistakes, not going to beat Bama that way. They'd beat Michigan by 30 points not to mention several other teams that were mentioned.
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    • angtank
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      • 08-08-09
      • 1482

      #72
      Originally posted by ouman101
      I just don't see Florida as the #14 ranked team in the country. They shouldn't have been #7 last week, and they are still over rated at #14. They have a QB that is still trying to get his feet wet and learn the offense. Florida's offense is terrible and thus far, they have been very turnover prone. If LSU was any good, I would say that Florida loses again, but I think LSU is over rated as well.

      Lets hear it guys...tell me which team above Florida couldn't beat them:
      15.) Iowa
      16.) Stanford
      17.) Mich. St.
      18.) Michigan
      19.) South Carolina
      20.) Wisconsin

      Even #21 Nevada would probably give Florida a good game

      LSU is just as bad.
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      • angtank
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        • 08-08-09
        • 1482

        #73
        Originally posted by Patrick McIrish
        How do people come up with these conclusions after actually watching the game? Yeah the score looked bad but the Gators had 3 INT's and fumbled the ball 3 more times, losing it once. Some were critical, you have to score when down in the redzone, that jump pass was instrumental in this game getting away from them. Bama had ZERO turnovers. Sure it's part of the game but to see a Gator team come off a 24 game regular season winning streak yet be unable to realize that isn't or won't be par for the course is absurd. Florida (a very young team with no Rainey, an injured Demps and a center in Pouncey that is NOT a center) OUTGAINED this team!! Sure they lost, they deserved to lose, but to say they got destroyed is not even close to what happened on the field. They are young and made too many mistakes, not going to beat Bama that way. They'd beat Michigan by 30 points not to mention several other teams that were mentioned.

        Good teams don't turn the ball over 4 times.
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40184

          #74
          Originally posted by Patrick McIrish
          Yeah we had more total yards than the national champs when playing them on the road, yeah that's a real asswhipping!! First downs where 18-17, sound like someone got demolished? One team made a lot of mistakes, the other did not. Never mind, make your evaluations by the score and 1 game this season, that's a surefire way to make money. They suck, doubt they are a top 50 team to lose to Bama like that.....


          Sigh.

          LOL

          1. Yes, SCOREBOARD means much more than who had the most first downs............HOLY COW.

          2. For the 7th time, not basing it on ONE GAME.


          Look, it's not like I'm saying Florida should be ranked out of the TOP 25 and perhaps not even out of the TOP 20.........just not in the TOP 15 at this time...........somewhere from 16th-20th range would be more logical than #12.

          I would rank two teams directly behind them in the Coaches Poll ahead of them at this time FOR CERTAIN........MIAMI, FLA, and ARKANSAS,......... ..........so basically would have them ranked 15th TOPS if I were making out a current TOP 25.........and then I would have to at least consider 1-5 other teams possibly being ranked higher then them also.

          Considering what they have done thus far on the field, a 16th ranking is something they should be very thankful for.................
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          • thebestthereis
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-01-09
            • 11459

            #75
            tebow was only arguably the most important player to one team in the history of college football. yet people think you just reload that player, sorry charlie. you can reload every other position except qb, and magnify that 5 times on that team and that offense. anyone that thought they were going to be dominant this year (against quality teams) just doesn't get it and probably never played organized sports. you can add multiple defensive nfl starters and offensive players that are not on the team either. florida is a top 25 team that is all from the beginning. throw away your copies of sports illustrated and shut off espn.
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            • elchampion33
              SBR High Roller
              • 01-22-10
              • 218

              #76
              LSU on talent is very good, Les Miles might be the worst coach ever tho lmao he drags that team down so much
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              • Patrick McIrish
                SBR MVP
                • 09-15-05
                • 2864

                #77
                Originally posted by angtank
                Good teams don't turn the ball over 4 times.

                Yes actually they do. Or they have at one time or another.


                Fish - I'm bored with you but I have a hard time believing you think Michigan, Nevada, Stanford, Wisky, Mich State, Utah, SCar, Arizona, Auburn, Nebraska, Nevada and so on are better based on losing one game to the best team in college football. One good thing about your position is they play LSU this weekend and since they are ranked 9th/12th or whatever, you should absolutely clean up this week betting against those pathetic Gators. I doubt Florida wins another game this year eh? Congrats on all the loot.
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                • Patrick McIrish
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-15-05
                  • 2864

                  #78
                  I'm almost pulling for Iowa to finally win a title this century. Obviously the Gators having 2 in the last 4 years and the SEC overall winning all of the the last 4 has people upset. Sorry boys, best conference in college football by far. This is a down year, I admit that, but still head and shoulders the toughest conference to play (and win) in. Not even a close second. 'Nuff said.
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                  • angtank
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                    • 08-08-09
                    • 1482

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Patrick McIrish
                    Yes actually they do. Or they have at one time or another.


                    Fish - I'm bored with you but I have a hard time believing you think Michigan, Nevada, Stanford, Wisky, Mich State, Utah, SCar, Arizona, Auburn, Nebraska, Nevada and so on are better based on losing one game to the best team in college football. One good thing about your position is they play LSU this weekend and since they are ranked 9th/12th or whatever, you should absolutely clean up this week betting against those pathetic Gators. I doubt Florida wins another game this year eh? Congrats on all the loot.

                    Nebraska would beat both Flordia & LSU. Nebraska will win the Big 12 this year. They are a very solid team.
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                    • TrapperDapper
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                      • 08-20-10
                      • 502

                      #80
                      I think their defense is really good. A really good defense and a running back that could hit the homerun at any time is a dangerous threat.
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                      • Patrick McIrish
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-15-05
                        • 2864

                        #81
                        Sagarin has Florida ranked 4th best in the nation. After reading comments from the casual fans (AKA posters) it's nice to hear from a real pro.


                        GAME, SET AND MATCH!!
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                        • Patrick McIrish
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                          • 09-15-05
                          • 2864

                          #82
                          Originally posted by angtank
                          Nebraska would beat both Flordia & LSU. Nebraska will win the Big 12 this year. They are a very solid team.


                          LOL! I coached a women's softball team that had more team speed than Nebraska. Seriously I think my Grandpa would get open on that secondary and he's in a wheelchair. You're embarrassing yourselves, Cornhuskers have played the 134th worst schedule in college football. There's bad schedules then there's BAD SCHEDULES! In short they've probably played that chick softball team I was talking about earlier.....
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                          • angtank
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                            • 08-08-09
                            • 1482

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Patrick McIrish
                            LOL! I coached a women's softball team that had more team speed than Nebraska. Seriously I think my Grandpa would get open on that secondary and he's in a wheelchair. You're embarrassing yourselves, Cornhuskers have played the 134th worst schedule in college football. There's bad schedules then there's BAD SCHEDULES! In short they've probably played that chick softball team I was talking about earlier.....


                            Your the only one embarrassing yourself. This is football not the olympics.
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                            • Mac4Lyfe
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-04-09
                              • 48805

                              #84
                              Fish - would you like to make a wager. I'll bet you that UF finishes the season ranked higher than 15 (14 or higher). Name your price?
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40184

                                #85
                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                Fish - would you like to make a wager. I'll bet you that UF finishes the season ranked higher than 15 (14 or higher). Name your price?

                                Why would I do this????

                                I just stated they would PROBABLY be in the TOP EIGHT after their next four games.

                                WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRESENT????


                                RIGHT NOW, they are not a TOP TEN team...........not in my mind, not in the AP, not in the COACHES POLL.


                                GEESH
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-04-09
                                  • 48805

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                                  I stated BEFORE their game with ALABAMA that the Gators were not a TOP 20 club.............and they are not.

                                  Having them at #14 enables them to be highly overrated.
                                  So which is it
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                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                    • 01-04-09
                                    • 48805

                                    #87
                                    They still have to play LSU, USC and FSU. You won't find too many other teams that has to play 3 tough games. Plus the SECCG. If they're not top 20 like you said, they should lose to all 3 which would kill any chance of a top 14 ranking...
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                                    • Fishhead
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                                      • 08-11-05
                                      • 40184

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                      They still have to play LSU, USC and FSU. You won't find too many other teams that has to play 3 tough games. Plus the SECCG. If they're not top 20 like you said, they should lose to all 3 which would kill any chance of a top 14 ranking...

                                      HUH???

                                      They have an overrated #10 LSU club at HOME..........and FSU is ranked 23rd and USC 28th in the AP POLL.

                                      Not that tough of schedule unless one is comparing it to BOISE STATE's schedule.




                                      What is so hard to conprehend about my opinion of them not being a TOP TEN team????...........
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                                      • Ralphie
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                                        • 09-20-09
                                        • 190

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by elchampion33
                                        LSU on talent is very good, Les Miles might be the worst coach ever tho lmao he drags that team down so much
                                        Eliminate the might and you are right on point.
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                                        • Fishhead
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                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40184

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Ralphie
                                          Eliminate the might and you are right on point.


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                                          • cant call it
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-29-10
                                            • 8817

                                            #91
                                            I am stoned, and I think florida could beat all of those teams you listed. They will get their chance to play south carolina later on in the season since it is a divisional matchup. I can tell you USCeast does not have what it takes to beat UF. Florida will play in a new years bowl, possibly against another one of those teams you have listed, so they will get the chance to prove you wrong. I am a Bama fan, and yes uf got their ass kicked, but none of those teams you listed I can see beating florida. They still have one of the fastest defenses in the country. When a team has line backers that run 4.4's and DE that runs 4.5 that makes it very hard to move the football for the opponent. I dont see any of those teams you listed being evenly matched with florida, maybe wisconsin is close but the rest are not even close.
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                                            • Fishhead
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                                              • 08-11-05
                                              • 40184

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by cant call it
                                              I am stoned, and I think florida could beat all of those teams you listed. They will get their chance to play south carolina later on in the season since it is a divisional matchup. I can tell you USCeast does not have what it takes to beat UF. Florida will play in a new years bowl, possibly against another one of those teams you have listed, so they will get the chance to prove you wrong. I am a Bama fan, and yes uf got their ass kicked, but none of those teams you listed I can see beating florida. They still have one of the fastest defenses in the country. When a team has line backers that run 4.4's and DE that runs 4.5 that makes it very hard to move the football for the opponent. I dont see any of those teams you listed being evenly matched with florida, maybe wisconsin is close but the rest are not even close.



                                              Wisconsin??

                                              They may be the 4th best team in the BIG TEN..........or worse.
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                                              • cant call it
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                                                • 08-29-10
                                                • 8817

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by Fishhead


                                                Wisconsin??

                                                They may be the 4th best team in the BIG TEN..........or worse.
                                                They may not be the best team in the big 10, but they do have a strong running game. They may have the best running team in the big 10 by the end of the year. They have good size on both OL and DL, and have for a while now been a dominant running team, which in my mind is tougher to beat considering running is running the clock, and usually runs the game.
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                                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                  • 48805

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                  HUH???

                                                  They have an overrated #10 LSU club at HOME..........and FSU is ranked 23rd and USC 28th in the AP POLL.

                                                  Not that tough of schedule unless one is comparing it to BOISE STATE's schedule.




                                                  What is so hard to conprehend about my opinion of them not being a TOP TEN team????...........
                                                  Fish... UF plays USCeast which is ranked #19 not USCw. Do you even keep up with the polls?

                                                  There's only 2 teams in the country that play more top 25 teams than UF... Iowa and Michigan.

                                                  First you said they weren't a top 20 team, then you said they should be around 15, now your saying they're not a Top Ten team??? I guess next you'll tell us they're not number 1, captain obvious.
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                                                  • cant call it
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                                                    • 08-29-10
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                                                    #95
                                                    see what I mean?wisc 250 rush yrds 34 min top vs minnesota. i say they finish better than you give them credit for in the big 11
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                                                    • k13
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-16-10
                                                      • 18130

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by lyon804
                                                      Bama is overrated? Based on what?



                                                      Bama is the class of College Football


                                                      Fishstick................ as you like to do.................... Alot of teams would look exposed on the road to Alabama. Your beloved Iowa would take a real shit kicking in that stadium......................... Iowa couldn't even beat Arizona on the road.................................... ..............


                                                      Anymore Fishhead................................ ...............



                                                      Thanks for coming out, told you bama is overrated.
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                                                      • cant call it
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                                                        • 08-29-10
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Fishhead


                                                        Wisconsin??

                                                        They may be the 4th best team in the BIG TEN..........or worse.
                                                        LOL AT YOUR ARGUMENT, TOLD YOU OSU WAS OVER RATED AND WISC COULD RUN THE BALL, LOL
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                                                        • Fishhead
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                                                          • 08-11-05
                                                          • 40184

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by cant call it
                                                          LOL AT YOUR ARGUMENT, TOLD YOU OSU WAS OVER RATED AND WISC COULD RUN THE BALL, LOL

                                                          Why are you laughing....they still could be the 4th best team in the conference.



                                                          If they lose next week at Iowa, there will be at LEAST three teams ahead of them in the conference............and they are not a favorite to win next weekend.
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                                                          • Fishhead
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                                                            • 08-11-05
                                                            • 40184

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                            Fish - would you like to make a wager. I'll bet you that UF finishes the season ranked higher than 15 (14 or higher). Name your price?

                                                            Be thankful I'm a nice guy...............
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                                                            • WeinketoWarrick
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                                                              • 05-30-09
                                                              • 1698

                                                              #100
                                                              Gators probably couldn't beat any teams in the top 50 right now...they're awful
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                                                              • Fishhead
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                                                                • 08-11-05
                                                                • 40184

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by WeinketoWarrick
                                                                Gators probably couldn't beat any teams in the top 50 right now...they're awful

                                                                In all liklihood, they will not recieve any votes in either the AP or COACHES poll this coming week............as I can't imagine anyone voting for them in their TOP 25 AT THIS TIME(unless Patrick McFiddle has a vote, lol).

                                                                By the way, going back to the Wisky comments, although they will be a small underdog at Iowa, it is my belief that WISKY has a 50-50 shot at winning that game or BETTER.

                                                                Iowa's linebacking group will have to be much healthier and better than they were against MICH, as even though the Hawkeyes defeated MICH by 10 pts, it was probably the worst overall defensive effort I've seen from this club in possibly 2.5 years......and their DL, regarded as the best in the nation by some, produced no real pressure for most of the day, even though I do realize they were in contain mode and tired from chasing the overrated DROB.
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                                                                • daneblazer
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                                                                  • 09-14-08
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Gators are banged up and their offense would have trouble scoring on anyone right now. Brantley isn't the guy for the system, their oline is so bad it's baffling, and the guy calling the plays is almost as bad as Mike Bobo. The defense is still good despite getting put in bad situation after bad situation. The off week comes at a much needed time.

                                                                  If Georgia handles UK next week the cocktail party will be much closer than I thought it'd be.
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                                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                                    • 48805

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                    Be thankful I'm a nice guy...............
                                                                    You would have had easy money...

                                                                    But, it's not on the players. It's totally on the coaches. UF should be 6-1 right now. The coaching staff has failed them. They allowed a fake FG against LSU? Then they keep calling option plays for Brantley when it's clear to everyone that he's not an option QB. Burton comes in and the offense immediately gets a spark but they continue to pound a square peg in a round hole with Brantley. 7 total points against MSU? That's horseshit.

                                                                    I thought for sure that today's headlines would have read that Steve Addazio was run out of town
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                                                                    • cant call it
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                                                                      • 08-29-10
                                                                      • 8817

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                      Why are you laughing....they still could be the 4th best team in the conference.



                                                                      If they lose next week at Iowa, there will be at LEAST three teams ahead of them in the conference............and they are not a favorite to win next weekend.
                                                                      BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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                                                                      • cant call it
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                                                                        • 08-29-10
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        wisc only has @purdue, indiana, @michigan, northwestern left on schedule. Now they may drop 1 of those games, but look who mich state and osu still have to play.
                                                                        msu plays @iowa, minny, purdue, @psu (psu last home game this year think they will go down easy? hell no)
                                                                        osu plays @minny, psu, @iowa, mich (@iowa will be iowa last home game this year think they will go down easy? hell no)
                                                                        its still wide open as of now! but we will see I just dont see them finishing 4th or worse like you think they will!!!
                                                                        we should bet some points on it to make it fun!
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