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  • Joe_Shabadoo
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-17-09
    • 607

    #1
    Cal (-1.5) @ U.N.R.
    ?

    I know we've all seen some opening lines and said, "Dude, what the ****?"

    I know the books will always have the inherent advantage, but this line is way off in my opinion. I live in Reno, and am alumnus of the "mighty" Wolf Pack. I know this team pretty well, but am starting to think that their reputation as an offensive juggernaut (supposedly) is coming a bit too much into play here.

    Mackey Stadium is not much of a homefield advantage; it's rather tiny and quiet.

    Driving from Berkeley over the pass into Reno is a short, pleasant drive.

    Clancy Penderghast has a lot of talent on his disposal on defense and has shown, at least against Colorado, that he's acclimated well to the college game.

    Nevada's defense is, and has always been atrocious. Chris Ault, for all of his work in resurrecting this program, has never been able to draw in the right mind, or talent, to keep this team in the hunt for anything with respect to the defense.

    Call me a fool, but I'm laying the 1.5 with the Bears here for a large play.



    Good luck.
  • MendozaLine
    SBR MVP
    • 01-11-10
    • 4088

    #2
    CAL has a tendency to have a let down game early in the season. I would stay away
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    • Joe_Shabadoo
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-17-09
      • 607

      #3
      Originally posted by MendozaLine
      CAL has a tendency to have a let down game early in the season. I would stay away
      This has happened before; you're right.

      Though, I think Shane Vereen and Co. will run roughshod over UNR's defense.
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      • aweweo808
        SBR Rookie
        • 08-30-10
        • 18

        #4
        I totally agree with you on how Reno's O is a bit overrated. They have put up big numbers this year nad in the past. The level of competition that they play against is by far weaker then Cal. Like Mendoza was saying cal does have trouble on the road at times. May be a no play or small play on Cal.
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        • Powerhaus
          Restricted User
          • 04-25-10
          • 322

          #5
          Cal has a nice squad this year with no real question marks on either side of the ball. With that said, Cal always has a few let up games every year and this could be another!
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          • sammy3
            SBR Rookie
            • 03-20-10
            • 28

            #6
            I'm on it as well!
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            • mandude
              SBR MVP
              • 12-16-09
              • 1474

              #7
              I know Cal has lost to some shitty teams in the past but when has Nevada ever beat a good team? The Wolfpack has been handled by BCS teams every time & I don't see anything changing here. Though I do agree this line makes no sense. You think it would be higher.
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              • Mike9999
                SBR High Roller
                • 08-07-10
                • 116

                #8
                I'm with you on Cal.

                BOL this week.
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                • PAPSMEAR
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-13-09
                  • 2581

                  #9
                  where the line smells and you play you normally get caked in shit. Not always but more often then not. Cal line should be closer to double digits here. That concerns me.
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                  • No coincidences
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-18-10
                    • 76300

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mandude
                    I know Cal has lost to some shitty teams in the past but when has Nevada ever beat a good team? The Wolfpack has been handled by BCS teams every time & I don't see anything changing here. Though I do agree this line makes no sense. You think it would be higher.
                    This. Cal, big. If it's a trap, so be it. Live and learn.
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                    • Mac4Lyfe
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-04-09
                      • 48377

                      #11
                      Guys, you all are crazy if you think the books give out free money. Nevada is clearly the play here. Nevada is my sleeper team in the WAC and I think they are going to beat Boise and BYU this year. Kaepernick is a straight up baller and will be the difference here. Most of Nevada's roster is made up of guys from California. Be very careful taking Cal. The line is going to go up every day this week then start to fall at game time. Watch...
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                      • Joe_Shabadoo
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-17-09
                        • 607

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PAPSMEAR
                        where the line smells and you play you normally get caked in shit. Not always but more often then not. Cal line should be closer to double digits here. That concerns me.
                        Duely noted, but already considered.

                        I'll lie in my bed when I make it; even if the bed turns out to be a shit-filled whale carcass.
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #13
                          Already up to 2.5, and about to hit 3 at Pinny.

                          This will probably be 3.5 or even 4 by gametime.
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                          • No coincidences
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-18-10
                            • 76300

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                            Guys, you all are crazy if you think the books give out free money. Nevada is clearly the play here. Nevada is my sleeper team in the WAC and I think they are going to beat Boise and BYU this year. Kaepernick is a straight up baller and will be the difference here. Most of Nevada's roster is made up of guys from California. Be very careful taking Cal. The line is going to go up every day this week then start to fall at game time. Watch...
                            With all due respect, you're crazy -- especially re: Boise.

                            I've watched both teams play, and Nevada -- especially defensively -- is not ready to take down a legitimate Pac-10 team. Offensively, they might be able to hang. Might. Their QB is solid, but puts up video game #'s vs. shitty teams. Their D is atrocious. How quickly people forget the SMU bowl game.
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                            • Joe_Shabadoo
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-17-09
                              • 607

                              #15
                              Dude, that's cool & all that they're your super-duper, dusty, shadow-sleeper, but I know this team well from actually watching them live many-a-time. Colin Kaepernick is a good athlete, but he'll be in a hole if the running game is neutralized, having to meet edge players and 'backers that are just as fast as he is. I know Chris Ault will cringe at the thought of the game relying on Kaepernick's thowing abilities.

                              Kevin Riley may uncharacteristically look like a world beater in this game; U.N.R.'s secondary play is hideous.
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                              • paste_me
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-11-09
                                • 1832

                                #16
                                by game time this will be 7
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                                • paste_me
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-11-09
                                  • 1832

                                  #17
                                  dude im in, heavy money on Cal right here...

                                  if this is a trap, they got me
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                                  • hoop guru
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-07-09
                                    • 2414

                                    #18
                                    CAL backers you are goin to win. I would not say its a lock but close eneough. I would also take CAL -1.5 or -2 first half. IF CAL does not cover first half, take CAL 2nd half real heavy. Oddsmakers want CAL to cover this spread and that is why it was set so low. There is no way Nevada is goin to cover third straight home in a row.
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                                    • hoop guru
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-07-09
                                      • 2414

                                      #19
                                      NEvada played 4 non-conference games in 2009 and lost them all.

                                      @ ND 35-0 loss
                                      @ CSU 35-20 loss
                                      MIissouri 31-21 loss
                                      SMU 45-10 loss

                                      CAL is a better team than those four teams that beat nevada in 2009. Nevada has won both nonconference games games so far this season. That streak is about to come to abrupt end on friday night.
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                                      • jboy4
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 02-18-10
                                        • 1950

                                        #20
                                        I actually like Nevada here.
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                                        • cappinthepigs
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-07-09
                                          • 1864

                                          #21
                                          I have no idea what is up with that line?
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                                          • hoop guru
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-07-09
                                            • 2414

                                            #22
                                            Nevada is not goin to win this game. I would not take nevada plus the points in a game that they are goin to lose.
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                                            • steve18
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-26-09
                                              • 662

                                              #23
                                              I'd pound Cal all the way up to 7. Good luck to Colorado when they join the Pac 10 next season.
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                                              • paste_me
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-11-09
                                                • 1832

                                                #24
                                                lol @ colorado football
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                                                • hoop guru
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-07-09
                                                  • 2414

                                                  #25
                                                  oddsmakers have a choice to set the spread low (cal -3) or set it high (CAL -10). IF they set high at CAL -10, everyone would still be on CAL including myself. I think oddsmakers want CAL to cover the spread and that is why it is set low at CAL -3. IF oddsmakers wanted nevada to cover 3rd straight home game, the spread would have to be set really high.
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                                                  • paste_me
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-11-09
                                                    • 1832

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by hoop guru
                                                    oddsmakers have a choice to set the spread low (cal -3) or set it high (CAL -10). IF they set high at CAL -10, everyone would still be on CAL including myself. I think oddsmakers want CAL to cover the spread and that is why it is set low at CAL -3. IF oddsmakers wanted nevada to cover 3rd straight home game, the spread would have to be set really high.
                                                    ?
                                                    I never think this deep. Why do you think they would want Cal to cover? Just b/c UNR covered last 2 games?
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                                                    • Mthorn
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-29-09
                                                      • 588

                                                      #27
                                                      Yes, cal at that spread seems tooo good to be true.. dropping it on cal also.
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                                                      • NardVa
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 10-02-07
                                                        • 8325

                                                        #28
                                                        Take Nevada ML. WAC conference has done their thing so far this year. Boise St beat VA Tech and Fresno State beat Cincinnati. Add Nevada to list of WAC teams taking down a team from a major conference.
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                                                        • Joe_Shabadoo
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 09-17-09
                                                          • 607

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by NardVa
                                                          Take Nevada ML. WAC conference has done their thing so far this year. Boise St beat VA Tech and Fresno State beat Cincinnati. Add Nevada to list of WAC teams taking down a team from a major conference.
                                                          This is specious reasoning at best.

                                                          What do Boise and Fresno have to do with Nevada's particular performance when actually lining up to play Cal on Friday?

                                                          Nothing.

                                                          This is an unprepared and underwhelming defensive unit here in Reno. I saw a line set like this for their home match-up against Missouri last season, at, suffice to say, it was night of fist pounding looking at the people in this sportsbooks cursing the fact that they fell for the low line that was set.
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                                                          • xyzky
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-23-07
                                                            • 1577

                                                            #30
                                                            I live in Reno and have watched and read about this team for 4 years now...Our Secondary will get eaten alive...Ault is not a big game coach...NV is better as a live dog, but, this is not the case in this matchup, they are mearly getting respect because they can score on weaker opponents. I had this line opening at -13, so -2.5 is a max unit play for me.
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                                                            • Serbone
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-21-09
                                                              • 1300

                                                              #31
                                                              This is specious reasoning at best.

                                                              What do Boise and Fresno have to do with Nevada's particular performance when actually lining up to play Cal on Friday?

                                                              Nothing.




                                                              Yes, Boise and Fresno does have something to do with it!
                                                              WAC and MW teams get UP when they play BCS teams early in the season. HUGE factor.
                                                              You are betting almost strictly on "motivation".
                                                              It will be a BIG game for Nevada, WAC teams always up for PAC-10 / BCS.
                                                              Cal may not be too excited, but they might be smart enough to come in and play a good one.
                                                              If Cal is fired up, then:
                                                              1) Nevada is mostly a run oriented, one dimensional, offense, Cal athletes should be able to stop them sometimes, not fearing the pass, whereas
                                                              2) if Cal plays hard, Nevada will struggle to stop Cal.
                                                              But I fear a Cal letdown, whilst Nevada will be pumped.
                                                              I'd go with Nevada, not sure I will bet it, but good competitive club at home, night game, would like to knock off BCS team.
                                                              Last edited by Serbone; 09-14-10, 07:01 PM.
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                                                              • freeVICK
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-21-08
                                                                • 7114

                                                                #32
                                                                according to the line, Nevada is the play. but Chris ault is the worst coach ever. and he will find a way to fck over wolf pack backers. no play for me
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                                                                • hoop guru
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-07-09
                                                                  • 2414

                                                                  #33
                                                                  CAL is goin to be motivated because they are not ranked in the top 25 yet. A 3-0 start would get CAL a top 25 ranking. A 3-0 start would also get Nevada ranked but CAL is not goin to lose. There probably be more golden bear fans at this home game.
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                                                                  • Serbone
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-21-09
                                                                    • 1300

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by hoop guru
                                                                    CAL is goin to be motivated because they are not ranked in the top 25 yet. A 3-0 start would get CAL a top 25 ranking. A 3-0 start would also get Nevada ranked but CAL is not goin to lose. There probably be more golden bear fans at this home game.
                                                                    Great point.
                                                                    Will the coaches sell it?
                                                                    Will the kids "buy in"?
                                                                    Or be looking ahead to the PAC-10 BCS schedule.
                                                                    Hard to know.
                                                                    We DO know Nevada will be pumped.
                                                                    "Over" might be the way to go if weather is OK.
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                                                                    • jarvol
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-13-10
                                                                      • 6074

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I agree the line looks too good to be true which usually scares me off but Cal's big letdowns early in the season usually come on the East Coast like at Maryland and Tennessee. This is short bus ride across the mountain. Nevada may well put up some points but I'd be shocked if Cal punts more than once or twice. Cal should be able to manhandle them.
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