Early Game Looks. Miami (FL) at Ohio State.

[BigdaddyQH]

Another gem involving a Florida team on 9/11. This one sees Miami traveling to the Horseshoe in Columbus to take on Ohio State, in a critical game for both teams as far as BCS implications go.

Miami opened some eyes last season with QB Jacoby Harris leading the team to a 9-4 overall record. 5 other starters return for the 'Canes, but the offensive line will need rebuilding, a new TE must be found, and Harris must cut down on his INT's. The defense returns 8 starters on a team that was inconsistant last season, giving up 31 or more points 4 times last season. Inconsistancy has plauged Miami for years now.

Ohio State finally won a BCS game, defeating Oregon in the Rose Bowl. Many peole feel that this team is a strong contender to play in the NC game once again. With 9 starters returning on offense, including QB Prior, one can see why there is so much optimism in Columbus. Like Miami, consistancy was the worst enemy of this group. The defense returns 6 starters, but must replace both safeties. Like Miami, this team has suffered through inconsistancies in the past two seasons.

From a wagering standpoint, it is hard to determine what to expect this early. Both teams play cream puffs at home to open the season, so do not expect to learn much from that angle. There are some interesting trends though. Ohio State has not lost a regular season non-con game to any team but USC in the past 4 seasons, but in the past two seasons, their record against non-con teams ATS is 2-4. Miami has not been the gretest team ATS, having gone 23-36 in their past 5 seasons. I can see many people playing or fading a "Florida" parlay the week of the 11th, using ACC teams Miami and Florida State, who both will be dogs on the road. As I stated in my write up about Florida State-Oklahoma, sometimes the best wager is no wager at all.

[Jrod124]

Love O State what do u think the line will be in this one?

[HoulihansTX]

Miami will be blown out of the Shoe. They need to go ahead and fire their coach.

[BigdaddyQH]

Houlihan, we tend to agree with you. We have not liked the Miami Coach since he was been there. Some of this coaching decisions were, in a word, terrible. My associates and I think that Shannon and LSU HC Les Miles are two peas in a pod. Having said that, Shannon did show some improvment last season. So the jury is still out on him.

Jrond, as far as the opening line is concerned, I think we are looking at Ohio State -7, or somewhere in that neighborhood. I would not be suprised if it were a bit higher.

[sweetjones55]

I will gurantee you guys the line will not be Ohio State -7. I know UM football as well as anyone around. We are just as good as Ohio State this year. We may have the best offense in the whole country, yes I said it.

We have a QB who was up for heisman for 3/4 of the year last year. Jacory Harris fell off the heisman race but that's only because he he injured his right throwing thumg midway through the year and never said anything about it and played through it. He had to get surgery immediately after the season.

We have by far the best WR group in the country. We honestly don't even know what to do with all the WR's we have, it's very hard to even predict starters. We have Leonard Hankerson and Travis Benjamin who are surefire NFL draft picks. Leonard is a big, strong physical reciever with great hands and Travis is an absolute burner who could bust one at any given second, fastest WR in the nation or close to it.

We also have a damn good Offensive Coordinator. Everyone around the country is trying to lure Mark Whipple over to their school. We also have a ton of experience at the OL position.

Do not even let me begin about our defense. We have NFL ALL OVER THE PLACE just like the Good Ol Days. Allen Bailey is the best DL in the country next year, we got Brandon Harris who is definitely one of the best CB in the country (got 1st team All-ACC this year and second team AllAmerica as a sophmore), we have RayRay Armstrong who will no doubt be the 1st Safety prospect taken whenever he enters the draft. We are just absolutely loaded this year, you guys have no idea what UM is going to look like next year. It is going to be a scary good team.

Hell even our kicker is going to be a sure fire NFL player

Here is a list of guys going to the NFL on this team (I'm telling you this is looking like early 2000's)

Allen Bailey DT (top 10 pick this year)
Brandon Harris CB (top 10 pick when he leaves)
Leonard Hankerson WR (1st or 2nd round pick)
Travis Benjamin WR (2nd round pick)
Marcus Forston DT (3rd round pick)
Jacory Harris QB (he will be drafted, don't know where, one mock has him going 2nd rd)
Damien Berry RB (2nd round pick)
Latwan Anderson DB (freshmen #1 safety in the country)
Storm Johnson RB (freshmen, with a name like that he will get drafted lol but no really kid looks like a stud)
Matt Bosher K (late in draft)

[sweetjones55]

I would like to know where you guys think Ohio State has an advanatage over UM. Forget about all the rankings, hype and crap. What position on the field does OSU have better than UM?

[BigdaddyQH]

One of the biggest homer based biased posts that I have seen. Let me tell you something. You may THINK you know UM football as well as anyone (which you do not), but you do not know caca about the other 119 FBS teams. Ohio State has a better QB, better RB's, and a much better OL than Miami has. Miami has better WR's. Ohio State has a much better defense because they are much more physical. Miami is terrible against physical teams. They got their tails kicked by Wisconsin last season in a bowl game in Florida. A bowl game where Miami was a 3 to 4 point favorite. A Wisconsin team that was manhandled by Ohio State to the tune of 31-13. Miami also lost games to physically superior North Carolina (where their defense gave up 33 points), and Va Tech, (where they gave up 31 points). Ohio State also has superior coaching. Shannon is one of the worst HC's in college football. His 3 year record of 21-17 is nowheres near the best in his conference. Shannon, like LSU HC Miles, looks for ways to lose games.

As far as the spread is concerned, you obviously know absolutely nothing about how spreads are determined. First of all, no one pays attention to biased homers like yourself. They look at what they have. They have a Big 10 team favored to win their conference, and the 2nd choice to win the National Championship, playing at home, against an ACC team that is not even favored to win their division, yet their conference, in one of the weaker BCS Conferences. That spells Ohio State -7, give or take a point or so. When we get closer to the game, I will be looking forward to suckering you in on a wager, and taking what little money or points that you will have. You homers make people like me rich. Keep up the good work. Next you can tell us how Miami goes undefeated this year. I can't wait to laugh at that one.

[brooks85]

OL, DL, RB. QBs are a wash right now but ill take pryor also. Better QB coaching.

[Powderguy]

HAHA look at that homer post up there, WOW.

[BigdaddyQH]

The fact is that the game is being played in Columbus. Neither team has much of a test in game 1. Ohio State is one of the favorites to win the mythical National Championship. Does anyone really think that this game will go off as a PK? Ohio State will get at least 4 points for the home field advantage, another point or so for Pryor, nd another point or so for Coaching, and another point or two for the "perception" factor. That adds up to 7 points or so to me. Not saying that Ohio State covers, or even wins this game. It is way too early for that.

[sweetjones55]

One of the biggest homer based biased posts that I have seen. Let me tell you something. You may THINK you know UM football as well as anyone (which you do not), but you do not know caca about the other 119 FBS teams. Ohio State has a better QB, better RB's, and a much better OL than Miami has. Miami has better WR's. Ohio State has a much better defense because they are much more physical. Miami is terrible against physical teams. They got their tails kicked by Wisconsin last season in a bowl game in Florida. A bowl game where Miami was a 3 to 4 point favorite. A Wisconsin team that was manhandled by Ohio State to the tune of 31-13. Miami also lost games to physically superior North Carolina (where their defense gave up 33 points), and Va Tech, (where they gave up 31 points). Ohio State also has superior coaching. Shannon is one of the worst HC's in college football. His 3 year record of 21-17 is nowheres near the best in his conference. Shannon, like LSU HC Miles, looks for ways to lose games.

As far as the spread is concerned, you obviously know absolutely nothing about how spreads are determined. First of all, no one pays attention to biased homers like yourself. They look at what they have. They have a Big 10 team favored to win their conference, and the 2nd choice to win the National Championship, playing at home, against an ACC team that is not even favored to win their division, yet their conference, in one of the weaker BCS Conferences. That spells Ohio State -7, give or take a point or so. When we get closer to the game, I will be looking forward to suckering you in on a wager, and taking what little money or points that you will have. You homers make people like me rich. Keep up the good work. Next you can tell us how Miami goes undefeated this year. I can't wait to laugh at that one.

I fade UM all the time I am not biased but we are downright loaded. I really don't think OSU has a better QB, I think they are fairly even. UM has two very highly respected RB's that are freshmen and I think them coupled with Damien Berry who is a proven effective runner that we have just as good RB's. Yes we got beat by Wisconsin but that was just one game. You are taking so much out of the game though in describing our defense that it is ridiculous. Yes they ran all over us but it was ONE game. We have better players all around on defense bottomline.

[BigdaddyQH]

Actually, you are very biased. You team can not handle any physical team. They get pushed all over the field, as they did against North Carolina, Va. Tech, and Wisconsin, three of your 4 losses last season. This is why Ohio State has a better defense. They are much more physical than Miami's defense and Miami's offense. This is not a knock on Miami. Miami has to depend on speed and finesse. Ohio State has to depend on physical play, especially in the physical Big 10. You must also take into consideration that the mental skills that QB Harris and HC Shannon display are very inferior to the mental skills that QB Prior and HC Tressel display. Tressel could outcoach Shannon in his sleep. All of this will be taken into consideration when the line comes out.

I am no Ohio State fan. I feel that they play a very soft schedule and do so intentionally, so they can maximize their chances to go the the BCS Championship game. Miami certainly plays a much more competitve non-con schedule than Ohio State does. I will be pulling for Miami to upset Ohio State and derail their chances at a National Championship appearance. Having said that, Ohio State still will be a deserving favorite. On paper, they are a better team. That is on paper. They still have to play the game.

[sweetjones55]

Actually, you are very biased. You team can not handle any physical team. They get pushed all over the field, as they did against North Carolina, Va. Tech, and Wisconsin, three of your 4 losses last season. This is why Ohio State has a better defense. They are much more physical than Miami's defense and Miami's offense. This is not a knock on Miami. Miami has to depend on speed and finesse. Ohio State has to depend on physical play, especially in the physical Big 10. You must also take into consideration that the mental skills that QB Harris and HC Shannon display are very inferior to the mental skills that QB Prior and HC Tressel display. Tressel could outcoach Shannon in his sleep. All of this will be taken into consideration when the line comes out.

I am no Ohio State fan. I feel that they play a very soft schedule and do so intentionally, so they can maximize their chances to go the the BCS Championship game. Miami certainly plays a much more competitve non-con schedule than Ohio State does. I will be pulling for Miami to upset Ohio State and derail their chances at a National Championship appearance. Having said that, Ohio State still will be a deserving favorite. On paper, they are a better team. That is on paper. They still have to play the game.

OK the Wisconsin loss I will give you that one they killed us. I think you have to put an asterik on the VT game though because of the hurricane that was there that day. That field was all messed up and it did not stop pouring down rain all game long. There was zero grip on the field and any speed advantage was completely taken away.

See now the UNC loss that you brought up makes you look very uninformed TBH. They scored 33 points which probably led you to belive that they dominated our defense but in reality they actually returned two interceptions to the house on us. UNC's offense did not score 1 touchdown on our "soft defense" in the last 59 minutes of the game (they scored on their 1st drive). We shut their asses down after that first TD for 3 straight quarters.

So like I said, UM only had ONE bad game on defense that I could give you.

[sweetjones55]

Match the teams up and just figure out who has the advantage. This is my matchup comparison

QB EVEN

RB MIAMI (we have twosurefire NFL RB's and a surefire FB on our team Graig Cooper RB Damien Berry RB Pat Hill FB either Storm Johnson or Lamar Miller will be in the NFL as well)

WR/TE MIAMI and it's not even close here, no team in this game has a bigger advantage in this game than UM does with their pass catchers


OL OSU (OSU always has a good OL but this is UM's best OL in years also, not a big advantage for OSU here)

DL MIAMI (we definitely have the best DL in the country in Allen Bailey and probably the best line in the country this year)

DB MIAMI (not close here either, we got a 2nd team all american who was a soph Brandon Harris and a surefire 1st safety picked in the draft whenever Ray Ray Armstrong decides to leave)

LB OSU (biggest advantage OSU has over UM is LB, UM does have experience at LB with a senior who has 3 years under his belt playing and a jr who started as freshmen)

K MIAMI (surefire NFL draft pick Matt Bosher)

Special Teams MIAMI (we've got at least two guys on our team that will be returning kicks in the NFL in Benajamin and a stud freshmen Latwan Anderson)

Coaching OSU

[sweetjones55]

UM has the advantage 6-3 IMO. You can maybe argue QB with me but I really think Jacory is going to have a breakout year and that both will be in the heisman running all year long. I know it is very hard for anyone to comprehend UM being good since we have been down for a while but this is the year we make a run for the national title and it all starts with a win @ OSU to prove all the doubters wrong. Three years ago UM had the #1 recruiting class in the nation when Randy Shannon finally kept all of Miami's talent in Miami, like the good old days in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. All those recruits are now juniors and ready to put us back on the map. Just look at UM's progression year to year now the last 3 years and you will see where we are destined to go now. You guys just wait and see. This team will not look soft come next year.

Anybody that wants to give me odds on UM winning 9 or more games send me a PM and I'll book it with you.

[sweetjones55]

Perfect place to post this video. Don's miss 2:06, special teams play of the year, he took it to the house BTW.

[BigdaddyQH]

Match the teams up and just figure out who has the advantage. This is my matchup comparison

QB EVEN

RB MIAMI (we have twosurefire NFL RB's and a surefire FB on our team Graig Cooper RB Pat Hill FB either Storm Johnson or Lamar Miller will be in the NFL as well)

WR/TE MIAMI and it's not even close here, no team in this game has a bigger advantage in this game than UM does with their pass catchers


OL OSU (OSU always has a good OL but this is UM's best OL in years also, not a big advantage for OSU here)

DL MIAMI (we definitely have the best DL in the country in Allen Bailey and probably the best line in the country this year)

DB MIAMI (not close here either, we got a 2nd team all american who was a soph Brandon Harris and a surefire 1st safety picked in the draft whenever Ray Ray Armstrong decides to leave)

LB OSU (biggest advantage OSU has over UM is LB, UM does have experience at LB with a senior who has 3 years under his belt playing and a jr who started as freshmen)

K MIAMI (surefire NFL draft pick Matt Bosher)

Special Teams MIAMI (we've got at least two guys on our team that will be returning kicks in the NFL in Benajamin and a stud freshmen Latwan Anderson)

Coaching OSU

Not even close. A Dream.

QB. Ohio State. Easy. Prior is the better athlete. Harris does not have a brain in his head. He is good for at least two INT's.

RB: Ohio State. Miami has nothing at RB. You keep taking about NFL RB's but you have none. No experience at all worth talking about. Ohio State returns two solid RB's and Pryor gives the ground attack an extra dimension.

WR: Miami. They are superior to anything that Ohio State has, but not nearly as good as you think.

OL: Ohio State. Not even close. Miami will have all kinds of problems getting to Pryor. Meanwhile, Harris will be sacked at least twice.

DL: Miami, but again over rated. Your DL is not even close to being the best in the nation. They can be pushed around by a physical team and that is what will happen.

LB: Ohio State. Miami has huge holes to fill here.

DB: Miami, but not by much. They will be very vulnerable. They could not stop good QB's last year. This is a major weakness of both teams.

K: Miami. There biggest advantage over Ohio State.

Return Teams: Ohio State. They have two excellent return men coming back, and much better players on their special team unit.

Coacing: Ohio State. Shannon is one of the worst HC's in the nation. He has no concept of clock management, and has no idea how to use his time outs. He is terrible.

So I see it as 6-4 for Ohio State. Add in the fact that the game is in Columbus, and the Big 10 is a much better conference than the ACC, and Ohio State is your favorite on paper.

[sweetjones55]

I will gurantee you guys the line will not be Ohio State -7. I know UM football as well as anyone around. We are just as good as Ohio State this year. We may have the best offense in the whole country, yes I said it.

We have a QB who was up for heisman for 3/4 of the year last year. Jacory Harris fell off the heisman race but that's only because he he injured his right throwing thumg midway through the year and never said anything about it and played through it. He had to get surgery immediately after the season.

We have by far the best WR group in the country. We honestly don't even know what to do with all the WR's we have, it's very hard to even predict starters. We have Leonard Hankerson and Travis Benjamin who are surefire NFL draft picks. Leonard is a big, strong physical reciever with great hands and Travis is an absolute burner who could bust one at any given second, fastest WR in the nation or close to it.

We also have a damn good Offensive Coordinator. Everyone around the country is trying to lure Mark Whipple over to their school. We also have a ton of experience at the OL position.

Do not even let me begin about our defense. We have NFL ALL OVER THE PLACE just like the Good Ol Days. Allen Bailey is the best DL in the country next year, we got Brandon Harris who is definitely one of the best CB in the country (got 1st team All-ACC this year and second team AllAmerica as a sophmore), we have RayRay Armstrong who will no doubt be the 1st Safety prospect taken whenever he enters the draft. We are just absolutely loaded this year, you guys have no idea what UM is going to look like next year. It is going to be a scary good team.

Hell even our kicker is going to be a sure fire NFL player

Here is a list of guys going to the NFL on this team (I'm telling you this is looking like early 2000's)

Allen Bailey DT (top 10 pick this year)
Brandon Harris CB (top 10 pick when he leaves)
Leonard Hankerson WR (1st or 2nd round pick)
Travis Benjamin WR (2nd round pick)
Marcus Forston DT (3rd round pick)
Jacory Harris QB (he will be drafted, don't know where, one mock has him going 2nd rd)
Damien Berry RB (2nd round pick)
Latwan Anderson DB (freshmen #1 safety in the country)
Storm Johnson RB (freshmen, with a name like that he will get drafted lol but no really kid looks like a stud)
Matt Bosher K (late in draft)

I forgot to mention a few guys on this list as surefre NFL draft picks

Orlando Franklin OG (1st or 2nd round)
Ray Ray Armstron S (1st round pick no doubt, wears 26 and reminds a lot people of my avatar.. I don't put them in the same league but some do)
Tommy Streeter WR (2nd-3rd round pick)

That is count it 13 guys on our team that will be on the field next year for us going to the NFL.

[sweetjones55]

RB: Ohio State. Miami has nothing at RB. You keep taking about NFL RB's but you have none. No experience at all worth talking about. Ohio State returns two solid RB's and Pryor gives the ground attack an extra dimension.

Miami has no running backs??? We got Graig Cooper, Damien Berry, Storm Johnson and Lamar Miller. We have no experience??? Cooper is a senior and Berry is senior also.

You want to place a bet that two of the running backs on UM's roster will be in the NFL one day? I will match whatever amount you want to place on it and I will let you choose who holds the money in escrow. It's got to be free money for you we have no running backs right? Any amount you want on this I match and I will give you 1.5-1 odds.

Return Teams: Ohio State. They have two excellent return men coming back, and much better players on their special team unit.

OSU does not have the edge at special teams. We got Travis Benjamin, Graig Cooper, and Latwan Anderson that will all be returning kicks in the NFL no doubt. But I also got stats for you on this one.

Miami had two punt returns for touchdowns and were ranked 60th in the country in punt return yards.
Ohio State had ZERO punt returns for touchdowns and were ranked 72nd in the country.
They both pretty much averaged the same thing on kickoff return yardage.
UM has a much better kicker so I do not see how in the world you believe OSU has better special teams.

QB. Ohio State. Easy. Prior is the better athlete. Harris does not have a brain in his head. He is good for at least two INT's.

Yes Pryor is more atheltic but Jacory is more accurate and always comes up big for us whenever we need him most. Let's see what Pryor did in all of his big games last year. I personally don't think he had a great game any of these big games with the exception of Oregon. Jacory Harris had the 32nd highest QB rating (140.1) in NCAA last year and he played half the year hurt. Pryor was 62nd ranked QB raing at 128. I really don't get why you think Pryor is so much better other than his running ability against weak teams.

@USC 11-25 177yards 0TD 1 INT
WISC 5-13 87yards 1TD 1INT
@ PURD 17-31 221yards 1TD 2INT
@PSU 8-17 125 yards 2TD 0 INT
@MICH 9-17 67 yards 1TD 1INT
OREG 23-37 2TD 1 INT

WR: Miami. They are superior to anything that Ohio State has, but not nearly as good as you think.

Please begin and try to explain to me why our WR are not as good as we think. We have five damn good WR's who could start on any team in Travis Benajmin, Leonard Hankerson, Laron Byrd, Aldarius Johnson and Tommy Streeter. We got the mixture of speed with the burner Benjamin and then three WR over 6"3 with speed and hands. You will see so many fades to the corner endzones this year.

LB: Ohio State. Miami has huge holes to fill here.

Huge hole at LB? We have two returning starters in Sean Spence and Colin McCarthy who are both solid.

So like I said UM has the advantage 6-3. The line should not be 7 on this game, OSU is not a better team than us on paper.

[sweetjones55]

The defense returns 6 starters, but must replace both safeties. Like Miami, this team has suffered through inconsistancies in the past two seasons.

See you don't even know what you are talking about. We don't have to replace both safeties. Ray Ray Armstrong started the whole second half of the year at safety for us and is one of the top safeties in the country, a sure fire NFL 1st rounder. We also have Vaughn Telemaque at safety who started a bunch of games last year.

[BigdaddyQH]

So let me get this straight. You have a team that is ranked nowheres close to the Top 10, who has not one player retruning that was an 1st or 2nd team All American last season, that did not have a Top 15 recruiting class, has one of the worst Head Coaches in the game, and you think that the starting 22 will be All Americans this season and that Miami is the greatest football school ever? You think that this rag-tag bunch of players are all going to be playing in the NFL. You are so full of it you reek. You are by far and away the biggest homer in here. Any fool that thinks that Ray Armstrong is a sure 1st round NFL pick is so full of it that he should not be posting in here. Anyone who thinks that Jacoby comes up big for Miami when they need it probably should remember the two INT's for TD's he threw against North Carolina, and got dismembered by Wisconsin.

If you want to rant and rave about your phony Miami team, do it in your own post, but I do not want to hear about it in my post any more. My post is for intellingent discussions no matter if opinions differ or not. I am not going to allow some Miami homer who has absolutely no understanding of the game to rant and rave about a second rate team in my posts. Start your own posts. Keep out of mine. I am asking you nicely to stay the hell out of my posts. I do not like homers, especially homers who have absolutely NOTHING to talk about. You sound like a fool.

[babyanni]

my $ will be with pryor and sweater vest over soft ass jacory harris and randy.

[sweetjones55]

that did not have a Top 15 recruiting class

It's statements like this that prove you know nothing about UM football. No of course we didn't have a top 15 class this year but do you know why??? It's because our juniors now were apart of the #1 RECRUITING CLASS IN THE COUNTRY 3 YEARS AGO hency why we are primed for a monster year! Why would freshmen want to come to UM when they will almost certainly not start because of the amazing juniors we have now. We did get the #1 safety/athlete in the country though in Latwan Anderson and filled a lot of holes at OL.

[sweetjones55]

You have a team that is ranked nowheres close to the Top 10,

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and give you credit for knowing SOMETHING about college football. Rankings mean knowthing in college football and you and I know it. The best example is the very OSU we are talking about. In 2002 they were not even ranked to start the season yet won the national title.

[sweetjones55]

I am patiently waiting on an answer for this, you just completely dodged this as I expected. Put your money where your mouth is since you know so much about college football and since I don't know KAKA as you say.

RB: Ohio State. Miami has nothing at RB. You keep taking about NFL RB's but you have none. No experience at all worth talking about. Ohio State returns two solid RB's and Pryor gives the ground attack an extra dimension.

You want to place a bet that two of the running backs on UM's roster will be in the NFL one day? I will match whatever amount you want to place on it and I will let you choose who holds the money in escrow. It's got to be free money for you we have no running backs right? Any amount you want on this I match and I will give you 1.5-1 odds.

I am giving you the chance of a life time to make money off some homer UM idiot who knows nothing about college footbal and I am giving you great odds at 1.5-1

[BigdaddyQH]

First of all, I answered you, but you have so much crap in your "in box" that it would not accpet my answer. Secondly, don't be such a dumb ass. I dictate the terms of provate wagers that I make, not anyone else. Your wager was utterly absurd. Like I am going to wait for 3 years or longer to collect a wager from a deadbeat like yourself. You do not have that kind of money to wager. If you wagered and lost, and thought you could just disappear, you would be wrong. Other have tried. None have succeeded. Do not clutter my threads again with homer posts or stupid wagers.

[sweetjones55]

First of all, I answered you, but you have so much crap in your "in box" that it would not accpet my answer. Secondly, don't be such a dumb ass. I dictate the terms of provate wagers that I make, not anyone else. Your wager was utterly absurd. Like I am going to wait for 3 years or longer to collect a wager from a deadbeat like yourself. You do not have that kind of money to wager. If you wagered and lost, and thought you could just disappear, you would be wrong. Other have tried. None have succeeded. Do not clutter my threads again with homer posts or stupid wagers.

I am going to PM you my cell phone number so we can do this. I am no deadbeat and can surely match any amount you are willing to wager. I will provide details as to why I can match ANY amount you want. There will be no disappearing on my part and honestly if I did disappear why would you even care? I am going to put the money in escrow before hand with a neutral 3rd part who you can choose so the money is already going to be sitting there for the victor. As soon as you or I win/lose the bet the neutral party pays us. Have you never done this before? I know three years is a long time but if you bet a large enough amount with me it will be worth it especially given the 1.5-1 odds I am laying you. PM me again, I emptied out my inbox.

[BigdaddyQH]

Whether I accept the wager or not, I will give you credit for doing things the right way. I do give credit where credit is due. Placing the money in escrow is the correct way of doing things until you know who you are wagering with. I must admit that I have never placed a wager where I had to wait for 3 years to see the outcome. I have placed many wagers in an "escrow" account.

[redrum]

canes are going to shock the world

canes r the most hated team in college football so i expect the haters

[BigdaddyQH]

canes are going to shock the world

canes r the most hated team in college football so i expect the haters

We hear this every year from Miami fans. The fact of the matter is that I think the 'Canes have some good talent, but really lack in the coaching department. Tressel can out coach Shannon in his sleep. This is a big advantage for Ohio State.

[Mantis]

Bucks win this one by double digits.

[luckyutah]

As a Miami alumnus and fan, I feel that I must apologize for the homer-ism contained within this thread. Not all Miami fans have such slanted views.

Sweetjones, I admire your love of the 'canes. Passion is one thing, but if it's not coupled with intelligence, then you sound like a homer. For instance, Tommy Street caught 5 passes last season (3 in garbage time against FAMU). He is not going to be drafted in the 2nd round. Also, Harris was not "up" for the Heisman. He threw 24 touchdowns and 17 interceptions. I don't have time to go over the rest of your statements, but many fall short of reality.

The one thing I will say is that Randy Shannon was previously hampered with bad coordinators. Two different DCs and Patrick Nix as the OC in 2007 and 2008. I concede Shannon chose these guys, but nonetheless, Mark Whipple has finally turned the offense around. The defense has been inconsistent, only forcing a minimal number of turnovers last year.

As always, optimism runs high in the summer. Too bad optimism does not set the line.

OSU -6

[BigdaddyQH]

I agree with you. While Miami certainly has the capability of winning this game, no one is going to make them a favorite. Ohio State -6 is a good starting point. On a neutral field, Ohio State is -1 to -3. Add 4 for the Home Field advantage and public perception, and you come up with -6 to -7.

[sharpcat]

Miami offensive speed will not be very impressive against ohio st. defense.

Any line ohio st. -7 or less and I will pound this line hard

[daneblazer]

I'm guessing Ohio State -6. This will be a really big game for Miami.

I remember when I was a kid I would play Tetris and start at level 8 or 9. I got to where I could only play the game fast. Whenever I dropped down to level 1 or 2 I would get bored and struggle.

This is what it is going to be like when Miami plays Ohio State. The speed of the game is going to be so slow and boring compared to what Miami is use to playing, it will actually benefit Ohio State. I'm going to say Ohio State by a TD...which is right where the line should be.