Cal vs Oregon..thoughts

**BuddyBear** · 09-24-07, 11:20 PM

Oregon would be the side I lean to right now....CAL is slightly overrated and their defense is not that great.

**pags11** · 09-25-07, 03:50 AM

agree with buddy here as I have a slight lean to Oregon, but oddsmakers are quickly upping the stakes for playing the Oregon side...

**bradleysnyder** · 09-25-07, 12:26 PM

cal has a NASTY offense.SHOULD BE A GREAT GAME.I LIKE CAL

**crackerjack** · 09-25-07, 01:21 PM

Scoreboard is going to be LIT UP in this one. Number will come out in the 70s I bet. Anything less and I will pound the over (like I did with the Oregon/Stanford game).

**Skankdog** · 09-25-07, 02:24 PM

California for sure!

**mshanedub420** · 09-25-07, 05:54 PM

Tough call, hoping the cal moneyline keeps going up...

**Razz** · 09-25-07, 10:04 PM

This is a series in which I've had the home team the past couple years, but I think this is the year the road team breaks the string. Cal is better offensively, it's better defensively, and it has the most dangerous return man on the planet, but Autzen is always a tricky proposition ... I just don't see how that ragass defense is going to stop Cal's dynamic offense, which has multiple playmakers at every position. Dixon has been playing extraordinarily well, but this defense, while not great, will offer more resistance than anything he's faced so far.
I hate taking a highly ranked team as an underdog, and situationally there is no doubt Oregon is the play, but when my ratings favor the underdog by 8 points on a neutral field and it is playing IMO the most overrated team in all of college football, I really don't see how I can't make a play.

**imgv94** · 09-25-07, 10:20 PM

Don't bet against Oregon when they are at

**bmac** · 09-26-07, 11:15 AM

I watched Cal play CSU a while back and I was very supprised with how close CSU kept it. I think Cal may be slightly over-rated. I will be playing Oregon in this one. Especially at home.

**Razz** · 09-26-07, 11:30 AM

This reminds me of the Oklahoma/Oregon game last year. Yes, Oregon has/had revenge. Yes, Oregon is/was playing at home. But the road team has a sensational running game that will exploit Oregon's pathetic run defense. The road team has the much better defense, the better coach, and taking the points is the only way to go.

**nevadaside** · 09-27-07, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

Don't bet against Oregon when they are at

Or don't bet against "imgv on ORE" when they are at (nv quote)

But I got no -3 business so I may grab two field goals w/CAL. Although is this game gonna come down to FGs?, or these two gonna be punchin the plane all day? Hmmmm

**imgv94** · 09-27-07, 02:45 AM

I'm going to put something on Oregon first half as well. I think the crowd pushes Oregon in the first half.

**crackerjack** · 09-27-07, 09:00 AM

71.5 ... the over is pretty tempting. Grab it before it goes up. I see both teams hitting the 40 mark in this game.

**bradleysnyder** · 09-27-07, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

Don't bet against Oregon when they are at

this WILL NOT matter.CAL IS F UCKING DANGEROUS AND OREGON IS NOT USC OR LSU.REMEMBER THAT.

**mshanedub420** · 09-27-07, 11:25 AM

You never know, what i Do know is that I got shit-canned last night, spent 2 much money, and now i need to chase it down, so lets get some more posting going on, we need people from local spots to give us the home town feel

**mshanedub420** · 09-27-07, 11:33 AM

I hate high profile games, yet i love them

**Razz** · 09-27-07, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by VolinArizona

It's close, but saying Cal's offense blows out Oregon's offense is silly.

Why? Cal's is obviously the best in the country, Oregon's is somewhere around 10th. They aren't on the same level. Oregon can expose a bad defense, and they'll score plenty in this game. But Cal can score on anyone. Its #2 and #3 RBs and WRs would start for 110 teams.

**VolinArizona** · 09-27-07, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Razz

Why? Cal's is obviously the best in the country, Oregon's is somewhere around 10th. They aren't on the same level. Oregon can expose a bad defense, and they'll score plenty in this game. But Cal can score on anyone. Its #2 and #3 RBs and WRs would start for 110 teams.

How is Cal's the #1 offense in the country?

**VolinArizona** · 09-27-07, 02:05 PM

Oregon is the #7 offense
Cal is the #37 offense

Can be flawed without knowing quality of defenses, but they have faced similar toughness.

**Razz** · 09-27-07, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by VolinArizona

Oregon is the #7 offense
Cal is the #37 offense

Can be flawed without knowing quality of defenses, but they have faced similar toughness.

Irrelevant after three weeks. Cal has the #1 receivers in the country (no one argues this), IMO the #2 running backs in the country (though I can see them ranked as low as fifth), and IMO the #7 QB in the country (though anywhere from 5-10 makes sense).

I respect Oregon's skill position players, I really do. But they just aren't at the same level as Cal's playmakers. Dixon has been playing awesome, I know. But is he really better than Longshore? I don't think so. Even if you say he is, Cal's WR's and RB's blow Oregon's out of the water.

**crackerjack** · 09-27-07, 02:38 PM

Both offenses are awesome. Both defenses are suspect. A+B=TAKE THE OVER!!!

**Tchocky** · 09-27-07, 02:49 PM

1. Cal +6
2. Over 73
3. Cal +190

**VolinArizona** · 09-27-07, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Razz

Irrelevant after three weeks. Cal has the #1 receivers in the country (no one argues this), IMO the #2 running backs in the country (though I can see them ranked as low as fifth), and IMO the #7 QB in the country (though anywhere from 5-10 makes sense).

I respect Oregon's skill position players, I really do. But they just aren't at the same level as Cal's playmakers. Dixon has been playing awesome, I know. But is he really better than Longshore? I don't think so. Even if you say he is, Cal's WR's and RB's blow Oregon's out of the water.

I wouldn't call the stats after FOUR weeks irrelevant. Maybe not enough of a sample size sure, but saying the evidence we've seen THIS season is irrelevant is silly. It's certainly more relevant than 2006 stats.

Longshore is nowhere near the #7 QB in the country. Brohm, Brennan, Woodson, Ainge, Bradford, Tebow, Booty, Painter, Dixon, etc.

And saying Cal's RBs blow out Oregon's is either an oversight or ignorance, no offense. Cal's are better? Probably. But John Stewart and Jeremiah Johnson are incredible, too. Johnson is a more proven backup than Jahvid Best. Remember, Oregon, statistically, had the best offense in the conference last year.

Cal's WRs are definitely a big advantage, but Oregon's aren't chumps.

In the end, you're making a lot of assertions that are purely subjective. I think there is room for that in this wagering game, but I think the best approach is to approach it with both eyeball analysis and statistical evidence.

**laxdjock** · 09-27-07, 09:09 PM

Best O' in the land....U of H!!!

**MOONCRICKET** · 09-27-07, 10:04 PM

i like the over in this one. one thing everyone seems to be overlooking here is regardless of how dangerous cal's offense seems to be these are 19 year old kids were talkin about and that home filed edge makes a tremendous difference in the confidence of how a KID plays ball. the KIDS at oregon are likely to play outta their skulls when that crowd gets amped up behind them. this is how you get blocked kicks and punt returns for td's and completed deep balls that may normally not have happened just becaus eof the high confidence level. and this while being almost UNhandicappable is the shit we all talk about after the game is over and you see guys in the box score for oregon that came up with 3 sacks or punt reTD that you maybe didnt see coming, but believe this -- this is oregon's game of the year and they will be jacked UP for this one. so IMO its oregonML/over 71'.

**t2wentyfou4r** · 09-28-07, 08:53 AM

Both teams have high powered offenses. I would pick the team with the better D. I would take the Ducks.

**Razz** · 09-28-07, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by VolinArizona

I wouldn't call the stats after FOUR weeks irrelevant. Maybe not enough of a sample size sure, but saying the evidence we've seen THIS season is irrelevant is silly. It's certainly more relevant than 2006 stats.

Longshore is nowhere near the #7 QB in the country. Brohm, Brennan, Woodson, Ainge, Bradford, Tebow, Booty, Painter, Dixon, etc.

And saying Cal's RBs blow out Oregon's is either an oversight or ignorance, no offense. Cal's are better? Probably. But John Stewart and Jeremiah Johnson are incredible, too. Johnson is a more proven backup than Jahvid Best. Remember, Oregon, statistically, had the best offense in the conference last year.

Cal's WRs are definitely a big advantage, but Oregon's aren't chumps.

In the end, you're making a lot of assertions that are purely subjective. I think there is room for that in this wagering game, but I think the best approach is to approach it with both eyeball analysis and statistical evidence.

Again, I agree with a large part of what you say. I like Oregon's running backs a lot. But I think Forsett is the best back in the country not named McFadden (feel free to prove me wrong tonight Slaton), and Best is - while as you say, not proven - as explosive as anyone.

**mshanedub420** · 09-29-07, 06:38 PM

Knew it, 2/1 odds. What an easy call. Close game but just over 2/1 odds

**Johndogg31** · 09-29-07, 07:42 PM

Agreed!

I pounded Cal at a +210 Money line... What a value!

-JDogg