Big East. Kick the Irish Out.

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  • BigdaddyQH
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-09
    • 19530

    #1
    Big East. Kick the Irish Out.
    So once again the possibility of the Big East being raided for at least one of it's football teams looms on the horizon. The Big 10 could possibly take either Rutgers or Pitt, forcing the Big East to find yet another team to fill a vacancy in their already weak Football Conference. With pressures already starting to build to eliminate the Big East as a BCS Conference, expansion by the Big 10 and the Pac 10 would make this more of a possibility. If the Big 10 and Pac 10 expand to 12 teams, the only BCS Conference that would have less than 12 teams would be the Big East. The Big East only has 8 teams in it's Football Conference.

    One of the reasons why the Big East put itself into this mess is because they have so many teams in their hoops conference that do not participate in FBS Football. Georgetown, Villanova, Providence, Marquette, St. Johns, De Paul, and Seaton Hall do not field FBS Football Teams. Oh yes. There is one other team that I have failed to mention. Notre Dame. It is time that the Big East put the squeeze on Notre Dame. It is time for the Irish to crap or get off the pot.

    If the Irish refuse to join the Big East for football, in effect saving their BCS status, then the Big East should kick Notre Dame out of the conference. Period. The Irish have lost their allure as far as Bowl Games are concerned. The proof is simple. The Gator Bowl signed the Big East in hopes of getting the Irish (who would take a Big East Bowl Game other than their BCS Spot) to play there. The Gator Bowl has now dumped the Big East, because they do not care about Notre Dame. The Big East now must send their #2 team to the Champs Bowl.

    By kicking Notre Dame out of the Big East, the Irish have their hand forced. While the Football team may be able to survive as an Independent, what about all of their other athletic teams? Where will they go? What about their hoops team? What could happen to the Irish is being forced to join a conference for all sports. That could be the Big 10. Obviously everyone knows that Notre Dame is the school that the Big 10 Conference really wants to add. If the Big East gives Notre Dame the boot, the Irish may be forced into joining the Big 10. That way, the Big East saves it's current teams. It also opens the door for the Big East to add at least one more team to it's conference. Right now, the MWC has 9 teams and is considered by many to be as good, if not better than the Big East conference in football.

    Now the chance of all of this happening is just about nill, but if the Big East thought this out clearly, they would see that telling Notre Dame to either join the Big East in Football or leave all together is their best option. Notre Dame does absolutely nothing for the Big East Conference. Notre Dame needs the Big East to house the rest of their athletic teams. That is a one way street. It is time for the Big East to save it's BCS standing, and this is the only way they can. Even if they lose a team like Rutgers, who will replace them? Buffalo? Temple again? Memphis? UCF? That would leave only Pitt, Syracuse and West Virginia as legitimate long time BCS Football programs in the Big East. The Big East will be compromised of 5 teams that were in non BCS Conferences as late as 2004. That, and the fact that the Big East would only have 8 teams probably will spell the end of their BCS status. The Big East is slowly bleeding to death. They have to do something drastic to save the patient.
  • iwantcougars
    SBR MVP
    • 09-29-09
    • 2156

    #2
    hopefully this will bring to a playoff system, instead of all this conferences bcs stuff
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    • Cookie Monster
      SBR MVP
      • 12-05-08
      • 2251

      #3
      If Big least loss Pitt or Rutgers, UCF is the obvious replacement. Temple is also a logical choice. East Carolina is a distant posibility. Buffalo and Memphis are too low, the BCS status may be in danger.

      Another possibility is raiding CUSA and MAC to grow up to 12 teams, if that assures them BCS status: UCF, Temple, E Carolina and possibly Southern Miss, Ohio, Bowling Green or Marshall. And of course, Notre Dame when they lose the TV contract.
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      • BigdaddyQH
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-13-09
        • 19530

        #4
        The problem with the Big East is that they have too many teams in their hoops conference, so adding 4 additional teams, would give them 20 hoops teams, which is rediculous. The Big East is just about fnished as a BCS Conference unless they do something drastic. Teams like UCF, Temple and East Carolina are NOT BCS teams. Conferences that have these teams playing in it shold not be considered BCS Conferences.
        Last edited by BigdaddyQH; 03-05-10, 08:33 PM.
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        • Cookie Monster
          SBR MVP
          • 12-05-08
          • 2251

          #5
          UCF, Temple and E Carolina would be the bottom feeders, of course. Every BCS conference has them: Baylor, Indiana, Vanderbilt, Wash. St.

          I agree, big least is in the last legs as BCS conference. I am just thinking what "drastic" measures they can attempt to survive. Adding Notre Dame and growing to 12 teams are the only ones I found.
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          • PRC
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-22-09
            • 576

            #6
            i'm no ND fan but theyre still the most prestigious team in college football
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            • stealthyburrito
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-12-09
              • 21562

              #7
              they would never kick ND out simply cuz they want the football team (aka $$$ machine) to join em. you make it sound as if the rest of ND athletics is irrelevant, but it isnt. the basketball program has garnered some prominence, not just recently either. its also about name recognition, and the big east and its partners understand ND basketball draws more ratings than UCF or buffalo basketball
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              • iwantcougars
                SBR MVP
                • 09-29-09
                • 2156

                #8
                if rutgers or pitt leaves, then west va goes to acc?
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                • daneblazer
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-14-08
                  • 27861

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                  The problem with the Big East is that they have too many teams in their hoops conference, so adding 4 additional teams, would give them 20 hoops teams, which is rediculous. The Big East is just about fnished as a BCS Conference unless they do something drastic. Teams like UCF, Temple and East Carolina are NOT BCS teams. Conferences that have these teams playing in it shold not be considered BCS Conferences.
                  Agree and disagree. The Big East would have a few "up and coming" schools. UCF is very similar to USF but UCF is the 3rd largest school in the country. Times are changing...and while UCF doesn't have the best (or any) history, they have the student base to be a player in the future. USF has a huge student base as well while Temple has the alumni base. The question is should these "up and coming schools" be in the same conversation as a Alabama, USC, Texas, Ohio State, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, etc.... hell no...but they deserve a chance.

                  We simply can't put the Big East in the same breathe as the Pac-10, SEC, Big-12, Big-10 or even ACC in football anymore. So I agree...what the Big East should do is tell Notre Dame to join us or get the hell out.
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