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  • PsychoQ
    SBR MVP
    • 12-13-08
    • 1130

    #36
    WEST VIRGINIA HAD 6 TURNOVERS I dont care who you are you can't win with that many. Wvu wins by at least 10.
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    • Dbldown11
      SBR MVP
      • 08-17-06
      • 3605

      #37
      Originally posted by PsychoQ
      WEST VIRGINIA HAD 6 TURNOVERS I dont care who you are you can't win with that many. Wvu wins by at least 10.
      If you're going on WVU do yourself a favor and don't bet too much on them.....they arent going to win this game. you're starting to talk like ZBOIZ during the week leading up to the LSU/Florida game. All heart...no head.

      Do me one favor and tell me what game West Virginia impressed you enough to warrant them being over a field goal favorite on the road to one of the top 4 Big East schools?

      As I recall you loved WVU last weekend too, and I warned you against that as well
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      • BECHunter
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-28-09
        • 140

        #38
        I like WVU all the way.
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        • xyzky
          SBR MVP
          • 08-23-07
          • 1577

          #39
          Dbl,
          Auburn was playing a lot better when WVU played them. I think WVU is pretty close to Cinncy and as long as they hold onto the ball they will pull away in the second half.
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          • Dbldown11
            SBR MVP
            • 08-17-06
            • 3605

            #40
            Originally posted by xyzky
            Dbl,
            Auburn was playing a lot better when WVU played them. I think WVU is pretty close to Cinncy and as long as they hold onto the ball they will pull away in the second half.
            no...Auburn wasnt playing better when they played West Virginia....they were just an overrated team at the time that people thought of more highly than they do now. You could also claim that Missouri was "playing better" earlier in the year. The truth is they just werent outted as an average team until they played stiffer competition.
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            • PsychoQ
              SBR MVP
              • 12-13-08
              • 1130

              #41
              Yes I was on wvu didn't bet it though and I won't bet them this week either. And u said they are playig against a top 4 big east team. 1 is wvu not in that top 4. 2 you act like the beast has 12 teams lol I respect your bet I just think the better teams wins and that's wvu. Wvu will also end cincy undefeated season.
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              • Dbldown11
                SBR MVP
                • 08-17-06
                • 3605

                #42
                No Psycho W. Va. is top for. I think that the Big East goes

                1) Cincy
                2) Pitt
                3) S. Florida
                4) W. Viriginia

                Although in all fairness 1 and 2 can be interchangable, as well as 3 and 4...depending on who you talk to. I just don't think thay West Virginia has shown anything this year that warrants them being a road favorite of over a field goal in this game. I think there is a TON of value on S. Florida +3.5 and ML

                Good luck to you. And you may be right about Cincy having their undefeated season ended by West Va. Although I personally think Cincy has looked better with the backup QB than they did with Pike
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                • Superman455
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 09-23-08
                  • 366

                  #43
                  GL with you pick. I am too leaning towards South Florida for a number of reasons, I think they have a very talented group of players whom got embarrassed by Pitt last week and will be playing with alot of emotion on both sides of the ball in front of the home crowd. WV seems to have issues holding on to the ball at times. Yes they can move the ball but it seems they cough it when the pressure is on. Best of luck your pick.

                  On another note...Seems that Bigdaddy or whatever has a real hard on for your posts..Seems he is just waiting to blast yours and well as many others. I have yet to see him post a positive reply to any post except for the few he starts.
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                  • PsychoQ
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-13-08
                    • 1130

                    #44
                    Dbl you were on USF last week to rite??
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                    • Dbldown11
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-17-06
                      • 3605

                      #45
                      Originally posted by PsychoQ
                      Dbl you were on USF last week to rite??
                      No sir....I was on them in the Cincy game.

                      A losing game also, however like I said then, they were outplaying Cincy the entire first half. Then Pike gets injured and in comes a QB that can run the ball that they didnt gameplan at all for. And from that point on they were kind of helpless, and just got beat up. I still think Cincy is better with this kid than Pike.
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                      • PsychoQ
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-13-08
                        • 1130

                        #46
                        OH thats rite pike got hurt and there back up came in a DOMINATED THEM. WAITE I think Brown is a decent runner to, i guess that shouldn't factor into your decision and what happened in the second half of the cincy game. BUt hey what do i know
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                        • Dbldown11
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-17-06
                          • 3605

                          #47
                          Originally posted by PsychoQ
                          OH thats rite pike got hurt and there back up came in a DOMINATED THEM. WAITE I think Brown is a decent runner to, i guess that shouldn't factor into your decision and what happened in the second half of the cincy game. BUt hey what do i know
                          You're right it shouldnt........


                          As pointed out when Pike got hurt they had this whole new offensive gameplan thrown at them that they had ZERO gameplan for. Pike poses no running threat. I'm not sure if you know how football works, but teams comes up with schemes and gameplans based on who they are facing.

                          SO......

                          This week they are gameplanning for it, and will not be caught offguard as they were in the Cincy game
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                          • TheQ
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 10-03-09
                            • 91

                            #48
                            i just cant trust bj daniels
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                            • PsychoQ
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-13-08
                              • 1130

                              #49
                              Ya this will be my first week watching college football(Kinda Excited). WVU wins the big east you didn't hear it from me though.
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                              • Dbldown11
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-17-06
                                • 3605

                                #50
                                alright psycho well have to agree to disagree....but wvu is going to come back down to earth starting this week...we shall see in a couple days
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                                • Flight
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-28-09
                                  • 1979

                                  #51
                                  Good discussion on both sides. I picked WVU -3 independently. After reading this thread my thoughts are the same. S Florida is a little overrated and WVU is 'under the radar' as someone else put it. Funny that S Florida is getting more attention than WVU these days.
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                                  • woody78
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-18-08
                                    • 502

                                    #52
                                    I'm on the Mounty's and would take them even if it was -6.5. I see Noel Devine and Jock Sanders going back to their home state and showing off their speed on a national stage. WVU 34 USF 21.
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                                    • JamesGenius
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 09-30-09
                                      • 257

                                      #53
                                      south florida cant move the ball with daniels and if you havent learned from the past two years USF collapses in the second half of the year. The last two years they started 5-0 and barely broke even at the end result. I think wvu offense is too good and usf offense is too weak to keep up. wvu by 10+
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                                      • JamesGenius
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 09-30-09
                                        • 257

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Dbldown11
                                        You're right it shouldnt........


                                        As pointed out when Pike got hurt they had this whole new offensive gameplan thrown at them that they had ZERO gameplan for. Pike poses no running threat. I'm not sure if you know how football works, but teams comes up with schemes and gameplans based on who they are facing.

                                        SO......

                                        This week they are gameplanning for it, and will not be caught offguard as they were in the Cincy game
                                        you are way to confident in USF, your blaming gameplan? The backup qb was 5'9 and couldnt throw the ball 30 yards downfield and your talking about gameplanning. USF isnt that good bottom line and the engine falls out friday
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                                        • TPowell
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-21-08
                                          • 18842

                                          #55
                                          guys, this USF team is nowhere near what it used to be. I really thought they would give Cincy fits the other week and it didnt happen. West Virginia by 7+ IMO
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                                          • presley177
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-22-06
                                            • 936

                                            #56
                                            The OVER 47 1/2 points is the right play in this game.

                                            WVU is the 2nd best team in the Big East behind Cinci(IMO)....but there's too many question marks in this game. West Virginia has a horrible secondary who rountinely give receivers 5 yard cushions in their weird 3-3-5 stack defense. South Florida won't run on WVU but they'll certainly pass on them.

                                            West Virginia also is one of the worst kickoff coverage teams in the nation.

                                            On the other end of things...South Florida will not have an answer for Devine. WVU has a ton of weapons on offense and although they've been turnover prone....you can't *rely* on turnovers alone when picking a side.

                                            I deffinitly do not see this game being a defensive game. As far as the sides go...it'll probably come down to whoever has the ball last.
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                                            • ackem19
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 10-07-09
                                              • 669

                                              #57
                                              the one thing that stands out to me about this game is the Rushing Defense of USF. They will NOT be able to stop Devine. Last week, Dion Lewis dismantled them and I'd expect Devine to do the same. For that reason alone, i think WVU will put up plenty of points and win this game. Also, WVU has had a postive turnover margin in each of their last 3 games while USF has had a negative turnover margin in each of their last 2 games. BOL to everybody. I don't know if i'm going to be on this game simply because it's a weekday game but if i decide to put money on it, money goes on WVU.
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                                              • Dbldown11
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-17-06
                                                • 3605

                                                #58
                                                looks like the books are gonna clean up on friday...everyone talking about s. Florida not being good cause they've lost the last two games to the top two teams in their conference. Meanwhile they don't look at the fact that west virginia has played a bunch of cupcakes and havnt once looke that good doing it...they have olayed one real road game this year (syracuse doesn't count). And they lost it by double digits to an average auburn team. Now somehow you all feel confident in taking them as favs on the road by more than a field goal??? Ur all crazy. I can't wait until friday. West virginia is highly overrated and an average team at best
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                                                • wal66
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-14-08
                                                  • 5305

                                                  #59
                                                  DblDown.................It's your play and I wish you the best with it. You have your reasons for the play and you should stay the course if you have found what you werelooking for. Hell even my prgram had this game at a pick'em and that would qualify as a play on USF. I personally hope they do win because I like the team and root for most things not FSU related. lol.
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                                                  • mtneer1212
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-22-08
                                                    • 4993

                                                    #60
                                                    West Virginia's defense is abysmal. South Florida's offense is abysmal without Grothe.
                                                    West Virginia's offense is good, even explosive when they don't turn it over. South Florida's defense is suspect.

                                                    I think, with my heart, WVU will win this by about 10, but I believe the score will be something like 34-24. OVER is the play.
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                                                    • mtneer1212
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-22-08
                                                      • 4993

                                                      #61
                                                      And I do agree that Cincy and Pitt are better teams right now. But WVU is third, UCONN is fourth, and USF/Rutgers are basically the same team, as are Louisville and Syracuse.
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                                                      • ScreaminPain
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 09-17-08
                                                        • 246

                                                        #62
                                                        This Gentlemen..... is a "CAPPER

                                                        .http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-fo...ml#post2461100
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                                                        • Chi_archie
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-22-08
                                                          • 63172

                                                          #63
                                                          I like S. Florida
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                                                          • jpowderly
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 06-30-06
                                                            • 872

                                                            #64
                                                            West Virginia wins even with turnovers wv + over total
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                                                            • BECHunter
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 09-28-09
                                                              • 140

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Dbldown11
                                                              no...Auburn wasnt playing better when they played West Virginia....they were just an overrated team at the time that people thought of more highly than they do now. You could also claim that Missouri was "playing better" earlier in the year. The truth is they just werent outted as an average team until they played stiffer competition.
                                                              I disagree. Auburn has been really banged up and have very little depth so they have been exposed as of late. Auburn was playing good ball when they took on WVU.
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                                                              • MUHerd37
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-23-09
                                                                • 12816

                                                                #66
                                                                I'm liking West Virginia. Devine and Sanders are unbelievably fast and just great runners. South Florida gave up 189 yards rushing to Cincy and then gave up 214 to Pitt. Now S. Florida is playing against Devine who is 7th nationally and then you throw Sanders in on top of that. West Virginia's defense is damn good against the run but terrible against the pass. S. Florida seems to step up their defense huge when they play West Virginia but I still take the Mountaineers.
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                                                                • MSUSpartan32
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 10-01-08
                                                                  • 948

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                                  I am hoping that the freshman QB grows up on fri night

                                                                  Has shown lots of potential and I think S Fl stays with WV
                                                                  Doesn't have to do a lot with "growing up" in my opinion. Comes with being accurate at throwing the ball, especially down the field. Anyone betting on that kid at QB is really rolling the dice. Great athlete, medciore QB.
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                                                                  • riggs
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-06-08
                                                                    • 1100

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I like South Florida SU here, RLM in this one as well. This line opened at 4 or 3.5 did it not? It's at -3 now! 85% of the public is on West Viginia -3, 70% of the public is on West Viginia ML.

                                                                    South Florida ML looks very tempting here
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                                                                    • Dbldown11
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-17-06
                                                                      • 3605

                                                                      #69
                                                                      It hurts me to see so many people throwing their money at another average overrated team.....It's happend too many times this year, and I've done my best to tell everyone to stay away from West Virginia in this one since S. f,orida is going to win straight up fairly easily. I can see I havnt done a persuasive enough job....but in at 32 hours you will all see. GL with the rest of your plays this weekend
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                                                                      • MSUSpartan32
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 10-01-08
                                                                        • 948

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Dbldown, you may be right, no play for me here.

                                                                        However, Daniels has been awful lately. Throwing money at a bad QB can be a scary proposition. He is completing 53% of his passes, only throwing for 120 yards a game, and has thrown 6 picks in only 96 attempts. Teams are now stacking the line and daring Daniels to beat them downfield, which he cannot. WV is 2nd in the league in rush defense. They will stop the run.

                                                                        On top of that, you have the top rushing team in the Big East (WV) going against a quick and athletic USF defense, but one that is 7th in the conference in rushing defense.....

                                                                        I can see why some may lean USF. But that confident in a bad QB and a bad rush offense vs. rush defense matchup?
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