idaho vs hawaii

**Dbldown11** · 10-12-09, 11:13 PM

I like Idaho as well......although not as confident as I have been with them the past two weeks

**HoulihansTX** · 10-12-09, 11:28 PM

First time this year they are favored.

I hoping they blow out Hawaii, then from there they become overvalued. But by that time I'll have let go of the bumpers on the Bandwagon.

So I'm guessing this is the last week we get any value with this team.

**Dbldown11** · 10-12-09, 11:37 PM

Yeah completely agree again houlihans.....and this isnt nearly the value weve seen the past two weeks. This one is pushing it a bit more, but I still feel they get it done

**nickelchip** · 10-12-09, 11:47 PM

Was hoping the line would drop to Idaho-10, but that doesn't look like its going to happen. If anything the line could go up! Idaho has won at home by margins of 14, and 2(after being down 14-0 to Colorado St.)and no loses. Hawaii has lost on the road by margins of 1(to a aweful UNLV) 21(Lou. Tech) and 25(Fresno St.) and no wins. The Kibbie Dome will be Rockin, and this crowd won't go home or shut up. This is the biggest event up there, since the potato picker was invented. The Vandals became a little sloppy against San Jose St. but ultimately won. The starting QB was replaced in the 4th against San Jose St due to throwing 3 picks. The replacement QB took them on the game winning TD. I Have no idea who's starting at QB for the Vandals this week, but after I saw the replacement, I don't think it will matter much who starts. Last week I put 1 bet on the ML, and put 1 bet on the spread(+4.5). This week I will put 1 on the spread, see what happens and ulimately put another later in the week. This past week the line got real screwey before gametime capping out at Idaho +6. Thinking that might happen again with the spread going to -10, hopefully. Like the Vandals all the way up to -13.5 for 1 bet and -12 and under for 2 bets.

**jagmaster** · 10-12-09, 11:51 PM

I watched hawaii play unlv and didnt think they were to bad when they had alexander at qb he is a tough dude and was everything to that offense so when he went out they went from a competive team to a flat out terrible team with no defense. So when I seen they were playing a team I have fallin in love with over the last 4 weeks that is a good spot if u ask me think the vandals will hammer the helpless Rainbows. I seen someone say will be time to jump off next week after they crush hawaii but I disagree that will be a great spot to take Idaho as they will be playing a huge public team in Nevada on the road if the wolfpak beat Utah st this weekend Idaho will be getting points from the wolfpak and I think they can beat them outright.

**flateyes** · 10-13-09, 04:08 AM

i got bets in at -12 when line opened monday morning...now most sites got line at -11.5. im wondering if sharp money in on hawaii?

**flateyes** · 10-13-09, 04:12 AM

damm line drop to -11.

**HoulihansTX** · 10-13-09, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by flateyes

i got bets in at -12 when line opened monday morning...now most sites got line at -11.5. im wondering if sharp money in on hawaii?

You're way off. Hawaii has been losing for the past 4 weeks. Nobody that is Sharp is on Hawaii.

**Tigers1230** · 10-13-09, 10:22 AM

This was my game of the week at first glance, much like the Fresno game against Hawaii last week was. I do however see the early reverse movement but I have already locked it in at -12. Hawaii is horrible overrall but now they have to go on the road to a much improved Idaho team.

**flateyes** · 10-13-09, 02:53 PM

hey tigers1230. the line dropped to -10! should have waitied a bit before locking in a bet. damm..dont see the line coming back up to -12.

**HoulihansTX** · 10-13-09, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by flateyes

hey tigers1230. the line dropped to -10! should have waitied a bit before locking in a bet. damm..dont see the line coming back up to -12.

When betting a favorite, anything between 10 & 12.5 is the same. No true growth of value until it reaches 9.5 for favorites.

Still think the line is irrelevant. Idaho rolls big.

**nickelchip** · 10-13-09, 04:58 PM

I just booked Idaho -10(+110 matchbook) . Is there something I am missing about this game? The line seems too good. Still very confident about Idaho though!!

**thejrichshow85** · 10-13-09, 04:59 PM

idaho 51-7

**flateyes** · 10-13-09, 04:59 PM

damm one offshore got -9.5 line

**BigdaddyQH** · 10-13-09, 05:04 PM

If you guys are upset that you did not wait, this will kill you. The line at the Hilton has just dropped to 8.5. That's right 8.5. It looks as if a lot of people are on the high side of this game. We hit a middle last week and this game is just begging middle. Someone is manipulating the line here guys. If you know someone, I suggest you start asking questions.

**BigdaddyQH** · 10-13-09, 05:09 PM

We are going to middle this game. We can get Hawaii +10.5 at the Golden Nugget, and will take Idaho and lay 8.5 at the Hilton.

**flateyes** · 10-13-09, 05:10 PM

WTF!!! does anybody know how to cancel a bet with 5 dimes? i put in a brick load on this game thinking hte line would move to -14. something very fishy here

**BigdaddyQH** · 10-13-09, 05:55 PM

I do not think you can, but my guys do not do busines with 5 dimes, so I'm not the best source of information.

**nickelchip** · 10-13-09, 06:02 PM

I am totally upside down right now. Dammit!! I make most of my money shopping lines!!! If I Scalp this bet I'm down $45(matchbook). Kind of in Don't-Know-What-To-Do-Land. Do I wait and put more on Idaho @ -8.5(if it goes there), Do scalp it and lose $45 then play it later, Do I just let-it-ride? I'm thinkin just let it ride and hope they win by at least 10, and learn a lesson.

**nickelchip** · 10-13-09, 06:09 PM

This thing is going to Idaho -9.5 for sure. Do people really think that Hawaii is playing the Idaho teams of past? Is this why maybe the lines are moving down, so much money on Hawaii? On SBR it says that 64% are on Idaho, but yet the line is moving down? Is Willy Wonka making this crap up? This is so baffling to me? Anybody have any ideas? Thanks

**flateyes** · 10-13-09, 07:31 PM

im in the same situation with you nickelchip. i think im gonna stick to my guns and just ride this game out at -12 for idaho. ill wait for 2nd half to figure out what to do

**Tigers1230** · 10-15-09, 03:53 PM

This line is dropping big. Saw it at -9.5 now with 65% on them. This RLM always makes my nuts go into my stomach.

**Dbldown11** · 10-15-09, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Tigers1230

This line is dropping big. Saw it at -9.5 now with 65% on them. This RLM always makes my nuts go into my stomach.

RLM is a joke. It's another "statistic" that vegas loves. Maybe if you combine that with other methods it can be usefull.

But if you're just looking at RLM ull be a losing player.

Everything points to Idaho, don't let some RLM garbage scare you off. Idaho is a better team, and would cover this spread in Hawaii. Factor in how bad Hawaii plays on the mainland and youve got yourself a blowout

**Tigers1230** · 10-15-09, 04:09 PM

I have lost big money on games that I took early and had a big RLM. My bet has been locked in since monday.

**mmike032** · 10-15-09, 04:21 PM

obvisiously theirs more money coming in Hawaii or the books are looking to lose a mint.
I agree with BigDaddy, this line is being manipulated by the big fish.
similar to the Iowa/Wisconsin game

**StraitShooter** · 10-15-09, 05:05 PM

I believe games are 25% cap and 75% luck

I also strongly believe in the law of averages

Idaho has recently won some games with 4th quarter heroics and been involved in some close wins

they are due

Hawaii ..although they suck..is my play..Tulsa sucks too..lookie last night

**HoulihansTX** · 10-15-09, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by Dbldown11

RLM is a joke. It's another "statistic" that vegas loves. Maybe if you combine that with other methods it can be usefull. But if you're just looking at RLM ull be a losing player. Everything points to Idaho, don't let some RLM garbage scare you off. Idaho is a better team, and would cover this spread in Hawaii. Factor in how bad Hawaii plays on the mainland and youve got yourself a blowout

Listen to the man. We have been on Idaho for the past 3 weeks, and have grown sharp on their capabilities.

Hawaii can't stop the run, which is Idaho's strength. Expect another score similar to the Hawaii/La Tech game. (27-9)La Tech

**Cougar Bait** · 10-15-09, 05:08 PM

This line is all over the place.

I'm on Idaho as well.

**StraitShooter** · 10-15-09, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Listen to the man. We have been on Idaho for the past 3 weeks, and have grown sharp on their capabilities.

Hawaii can't stop the run, which is Idaho's strength. Expect another score similar to the Hawaii/La Tech game. (27-9)La Tech

Expect the unexpected...The play is Hawaii

**Dbldown11** · 10-15-09, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by StraitShooter

Expect the unexpected...The play is Hawaii

Do you have any actual information or statistics....or thoughts as to why Hawaii will cover? or just "the play is hawaii". Just wondering cause I like hearing views of people that disagree with me. As long as they are logical

**Cougar Bait** · 10-15-09, 05:13 PM

RLM is the only thing going against an Idaho play here...

Line is down to 7.5 in some spots. From 11.

**Dbldown11** · 10-15-09, 05:16 PM

Just cause people may be bettin big money on Hawaii doesn mean jack......

a lot of people that havnt follow idaho or hawaii this year probably look at this line and say Hawaii....theyve been decent the past few years. and Idaho has always sucked. and if they happen to have a lot of money they may bet a lot on hawaii.

if RLM is the only thing going against a team that means nothing. Unless you can point out actual reasons for people to bet Hawaii the RLM could just be rich fools

**SBR_John** · 10-15-09, 05:17 PM

The bows are just horrible. Its the favorite or pass imo.

**Cougar Bait** · 10-15-09, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Dbldown11

Just cause people may be bettin big money on Hawaii doesn mean jack......

a lot of people that havnt follow idaho or hawaii this year probably look at this line and say Hawaii....theyve been decent the past few years. and Idaho has always sucked. and if they happen to have a lot of money they may bet a lot on hawaii.

if RLM is the only thing going against a team that means nothing. Unless you can point out actual reasons for people to bet Hawaii the RLM could just be rich fools

I only said that because it was the only reason I could come up with. I am already on Idaho. If they want to bet the number down let them.