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**Dbldown11** · 10-06-09, 10:39 AM

ATS means against the spread so if an underdog is 1-3 ATS that means they've covered the spread (lost by less than what they were getting) 1 out of 4 games. If a favorite is 1-3 ATS that means they've covered the spread (won by more than what they were giving) 1 out of 4 games.

SU means wins straight up. Quite simply did they win or lose the game
SO?????????? not a clue

**wal66** · 10-06-09, 11:14 AM

iwant.....are you sure it's not SOS ( strength of schedule)

could be strength of oponent I guess

Nevermind ....SO........scoring offense

**Dbldown11** · 10-06-09, 11:17 AM

hahaha wal....that was all in the same post, could have just deleted that first part Haha

**wal66** · 10-06-09, 11:25 AM

That is true but it's not how the brain works at times.

**MJT1212** · 10-06-09, 11:54 AM

U is under
O is over

SU is straight up like he said, he cleared u up on most everything else

GL (good luck) and...hope this helps a little

**Dbldown11** · 10-06-09, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by MJT1212

GL (good luck) and...hope this helps a little

LOL (laugh out loud)

**iwantcougars** · 10-06-09, 12:24 PM

thanks, it makes sense and help me get most of the talk here, what about "fade"?

**Dbldown11** · 10-06-09, 12:26 PM

if someone says to fade someone else's picks that usually means they suck or are on a bad streak so you should pick the opposite of what they pick.

Not something that I do because I like to cap games and pick games based on my thoughts about them, not just blindly picking the opposite of others picks

**bypp** · 10-06-09, 12:27 PM

fade means to pick the opposite of. for example if i was betting minnesota -4 against green bay, you could "fade" me and take green bay +4. fade = opposite

**iwantcougars** · 10-06-09, 12:32 PM

**wal66** · 10-06-09, 12:41 PM

Also when speaking of fading the public. When you see that a team is getting the higher percentages of the wagers and you take the team with fewer public percentages then you are fading the public.

**wal66** · 10-06-09, 12:45 PM

I'm bored so we'll keep this going.

RLM = reverse line movement: For example you see the percentage of wagers are on one team but the line is moving the opposite way then that is reverse line movement.

Example:
Monday Team A is -7 with 55% of wages placed on them
Tuesday Team A is -6.5 with 66% on them

The percentages increased yet the line wen the other way.

**Beat up the book** · 10-06-09, 12:55 PM

a tease is a women that wont f#ck.

**Cougar Bait** · 10-06-09, 12:59 PM

wal, I was always under the impression that (among other things) the AMOUNT of the wager on one team moves the line more than the %'s of bets. I'm not sure how this relates specifically to RLM, but it seems problematic to assume if 70% of the bets are on Team A but they account for less than 50% of the action, the line movement would be adjusted to off-set the heavy hitters, not the team with the highest percentage of bets. I realize this is kinda confusing iwantcougars, but I thought it was a decent point. Now, stay away from my Cougars. At least until you learn the gambling terminology. Then you can have my sloppy seconds.

**wal66** · 10-06-09, 01:04 PM

The money is what moves the line cougs. Thus the reversal of the line. The percentages would suggest that the line should be increasing but the fact the line is decreasing is due to larger amounts of money making it move. I know I don't and I'm sure a large number of us don't have access to the actual dollars in play so we are watching the public percentages and recognizing the Sharp type action or atleast speculating that it's sharp.

**Dbldown11** · 10-06-09, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Cougar Bait

wal, I was always under the impression that (among other things) the AMOUNT of the wager on one team moves the line more than the %'s of bets. I'm not sure how this relates specifically to RLM, but it seems problematic to assume if 70% of the bets are on Team A but they account for less than 50% of the action, the line movement would be adjusted to off-set the heavy hitters, not the team with the highest percentage of bets. I realize this is kinda confusing iwantcougars, but I thought it was a decent point. Now, stay away from my Cougars. At least until you learn the gambling terminology. Then you can have my sloppy seconds.

Thank you Cougar...I've been saying that for a while now. RLM means NOTHING. Just because 70% are on one team and the line goes the opposite way doesnt mean to take the other team, it just maybe means a rich **** just dropped a lot on the other team

**Dbldown11** · 10-06-09, 01:07 PM

Sure RLM will work sometime, and it might even be over 50%, but just like any other "method" some will be below 50% some might be slightly above...but they are all a crapshoot

**wal66** · 10-06-09, 01:16 PM

I disagree............the right situations prove to be very profitable. The way I have explained this can be certainly 50-50 in the big games like Florida/LSU this weekend. Also in weeknight games where there is substantial action due it being the only game. It is effective though on a full card in the smaller market type games. MAC games often present very good indicators by the example I gave.

**Dbldown11** · 10-06-09, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by wal66

I disagree............the right situations prove to be very profitable. The way I have explained this can be certainly 50-50 in the big games like Florida/LSU this weekend. Also in weeknight games where there is substantial action due it being the only game. It is effective though on a full card in the smaller market type games. MAC games often present very good indicators by the example I gave.

I guess I could see that because anyone laying coin large enough to move a line on an untelevised small conference game probably knows something

**Cougar Bait** · 10-06-09, 02:08 PM

Wal, are you saying that you don't agree with this assertion?

Originally posted by Cougar Bait

the AMOUNT of the wager on one team moves the line more than the %'s of bets.

I fail to see how us "not knowing" how much is on a particular side means that's not the reason for a line move. If I misunderstood you, please explain.

Now I have to go back to watching last weeks Idaho/Colorado St. game.

**wal66** · 10-06-09, 02:14 PM

I think we are saying the same thing Coug. I aree it's the dollar amount. I doubt many have access to that information so we watch the % and realize when they go one way and the line goes the other it's the dollars that's doing it.