If you ever see ZBOIZ make a valid argument about FLA/LSU post it here

**Dbldown11** · 10-05-09, 03:55 PM

Nothing yet guys???

**ZBOIZ** · 10-05-09, 03:57 PM

GAINESVILLE — When Florida wide receivers coach Billy Gonzales looked around the practice field Sunday night, he realized that injuries and illness had left the Gators without six scholarship receivers.
Senior Riley Cooper sat out with a pinched nerve and to rest a chronic foot problem. Redshirt sophomore Deonte Thompson had a hamstring pull that kept him out of the Tennessee game, senior David Nelson was held out, and junior tight end Aaron Hernandez had the flu. Senior Carl Moore has not played this season as he recovers from a medical procedure in his back, and freshman phenom Andre Debose is out for the season after he had surgery last week to repair a torn hamstring tendon.
"If I had any of the six guys, that would help me right now," Gonzales said. "But that's the way the ball bounces. We've got to coach the ones we've got right now. That's my responsibility."
What he has got hasn't quite lived up to the coaches' expectations. Outside of Cooper and Hernandez, the receivers haven't been consistently productive, and replacing former receiver Percy Harvin has turned out to be as tough as expected. In Saturday's win over Tennessee, Monte Kiffin's defense exposed a weakness the Gators believed they had addressed. With Thompson sidelined, Hernandez sick and Cooper not at full speed, Florida was unable to stretch its offense, leaving doubt about the unit without its starters.
"Right now, our receiving corps is not at Florida standards," coach Urban Meyer said. "When Deonte (Thompson) is in there, I think it is. When he's not, there are some young players that are starting to make a move, they've just got to get better. There's going to be a lot of sense of urgency with that group this week because that limits you and you don't have a very good stretch in your offense. We've been very blessed the last four years. We've had some vertical push."
The Tennessee game was the first time since at least 1997 that no Florida receiver gained 30 or more yards — a total of 156 games. Cooper leads the team with 212 yards on 13 catches, averaging nearly 71 yards per game, followed by Hernandez with 144 yards and 12 receptions. Ten receivers have caught passes in the first three games, but Florida hasn't gotten consistent play from young guys such as redshirt freshmen Omarius Hines and Frankie Hammond, and redshirt junior Justin Williams.
"We're not really worried about playing, we're just going as hard as we can." Hines said. "We're down in numbers in receivers right now. The three of us are really trying to step up and contribute to this team."
"It's day to day with those guys," Meyer said. "We're trying to accelerate the growth process."
In some ways, this mirrors the Gators' 2005 season. That year, Tampa native and former Gator receiver Andre Caldwell broke his leg early in the season against Tennessee, Dallas Baker had a broken rib and Jemalle Cornelius had a high ankle sprain. The difference now, Meyer said, is the Gators have ways to mask the deficiency while they correct the problems.
"Our running backs and tailbacks had to take over the (Tennessee) game," Meyer said. "It's good to have that opportunity. Five years ago, with those receivers out of the game, we're all looking at each other saying, 'Where do we go now?' We have more depth now, but we've just got to get a little better."
Meyer said Hines and T.J. Lawrence have shown potential, but many of the young players are going through what he terms the sophomore blues. "We just don't have time to wait for them," he said.
Which is where Gonzales' job becomes more important, and possibly more difficult. No matter what, the young players won't see playing time until they start showing it on a consistent basis in practice.
"The only way that you get better and the only way that you play here at Florida — and it has never changed — is you've got to make plays in practice," he said. "The word gamer, we don't believe in that here. You've got to make the plays over and over in practice. … Our upperclassmen right now are doing that, but the younger guys, they need to make those plays. It's not just being given an opportunity. They have an obligation and a responsibility to make those plays before they walk on the football field."
Antonya English can be reached at english@sptimes.com. Check her blog at blogs.tampabay.com/gators.

**ZBOIZ** · 10-05-09, 03:59 PM

Are they really relying on Thompson ??? That guy is severly overated! He cant catch!

Tennessee held all there recivers to under 30 yards. WOW!! FLORIDA IS GREAT! NO WAY THEY LOSE! WITH A UNHEALTHY TEBOW WHO HAVE'NT PRACTICED IN 2 WEEKS! AND WILL NOT PRACTICE TODAY.

**Dbldown11** · 10-05-09, 04:00 PM

too bad that's not you making a valid argument......PLUS if you go to the thread you posted that in a few posts up you'll see this gem by you....

"The media does'nt no more than us. They are only asking and getting what the coaches want to leak. If Tebow was 100% I'm sure he'll be practicing for Saturday night game."

Now I agree with that second quote, however the fact that you would say that then almost immediately pull up a article written by the media to prove something is somewhat hysterical

**Dbldown11** · 10-05-09, 04:04 PM

I like this idea....since you've done it at least 3 times lets point out your hypocrisy's

other than the one above

you started a post with the headline being the STATISTIC that LSU has won 31 straight home night games (leaving out the fact that only 5 were against top 10 teams as you later pointed out)

THEN

in other posts you made sure to say: Throw the stats out the window in this game.............HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

The when someone pointed out that one of those 31 straight wins was a nail-biter last year against Troy you pointed out that 'Troy is a good team'

THEN

when someone pointed out how badly Florida beat Troy this year, you said 'they should put up big numbers against a team like Troy'

am I missing any other blatant hypocrisy's sir?

**ZBOIZ** · 10-05-09, 04:07 PM

My point is FLORIDA is not as explosive as you guys think.

**ZBOIZ** · 10-05-09, 04:09 PM

FLORIDA DEFENSE VS. CHARLESTON SOUTHERN

Florida's defense also looked shaky at times. The Gators gave up 323 yards and looked nothing like the unit that slowed down Heisman Trophy winner Sam Bradford and Oklahoma in the Bowl Championship Series title game in Miami.

**Dbldown11** · 10-05-09, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

My point is FLORIDA is not as explosive as you guys think.

and my point is that THAT IS BASED ON NOTHING

you are downgrading Florida even though they are 3 and 0 with 3 blowouts and 1 tight game score wise (even though the game itself was never close!!!)

but upgrading LSU based on the fact that they have played a bunch of average teams very close and almost lost to 3 of em.............

You give one set of standards to Florida to judge them as bad....and give a completely different set of standards to judge YOUR LSU tigers.

Like I said you must be a Republican

**wal66** · 10-05-09, 04:15 PM

Z........Tebow wasn't good in doing this but he did get 5 different receivers the ball went 14-19 and 115 yards in the game. Not Heisman numbers but it wasn't required either. You are right no-one had 30 total yards in receiving that game but Hernandez nNelson Cooper James and Demps went for 26,26,25,23 and 15 respectively.

If you look at the numbers Florida only rushed for 208 yards in that game yet it was never in doubt. All these numbers will prove if you are REALLY watching the games is that Florida can have a sub-par performance and still win games against average teams. Sorry to say this because I hate to speak ill of anyones team but LSU is just an average team.

Hey if your guys win I will post in great big bold text that I was wrong and ship you all the points I have accumulated to that point. Don't see it happening though.

**Dbldown11** · 10-05-09, 04:16 PM

Alright whatever man....you're obviously not very smart, you have no valid points of your own other that pulling long ass quotes from OTHER PEOPLE than I have ZERO interest in reading. And you're obviously a homer that is making this pick with your heart and not your head.

I'm done discussing it with you because it's completely pointless, again like a republican if someone is debating something with you instead of actually discussing pertinent things you just point out ridiculous random shit.

so long

**HoulihansTX** · 10-05-09, 09:33 PM

Why bet this game anyway? The line is sharp, and is giving no one an advantage. The books know this will the most heavily bet game of the week. Too many other bets that have value fellas.

**Ralphie1412** · 10-05-09, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

My point is FLORIDA is not as explosive as you guys think.

and LSU isnt 1/17th as good as you think they are. Almost lost in starkville and almost lost in seattle. Got lucky in athens. Yup they are raw.