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  • BigdaddyQH
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    • 07-13-09
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    Carroll Names Barkley as USC's Starting QB
    Pete Carroll announced today that he has selected Freshman Matt Barkley as the starting QB for the Trojans. Carroll emphasized that this was not just for the San Jose State game. Barkley took control over the 1st string offense when Aaron Corp was injured, and never relinquished it. Barklye is the first true Freshman toever start at QB for USC.
  • ZBOIZ
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    • 06-22-08
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    #2
    Not a good sign for this USC program
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    • stats13
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      #3
      Originally posted by ZBOIZ
      Not a good sign for this USC program
      so you'd feel better if it was corp or mustain? maybe barkley IS that good
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      • ZBOIZ
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        • 06-22-08
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        #4
        Stat13,

        last year when Pete Carrol got pissed about Sanchez leaving school early I said that something was wrong with this picture. Marc Richt did'nt get pissed when Moreno and Stafford left early last year. So why would Pete Carrol ? Pete got mad for the simple fact that he did not have a reliable back up to come in the following year to lead his program. Every coach last option is to start a freshman QB (especially at a top tier program) and it's all coming together on why he wanted Sanchez to REALLY stay. He wanted Barkely to be under his system for atleast 1 year and then take over as the starter, but his plans were ruined when Sanchez decided to enter the draft.

        Think about it:

        Carson Palmer - Matt Lienart

        Matt Lienart - Josh Booty

        Josh Booty - Sanchez

        Sanchez - ??????

        (ALL THESE GUYS WERE UPPERCLASSMENS WHEN THEY TOOK OVER AS QB)
        This is how a top tier competitive program is ran! You have your QB'S sit in the system for a while before you throw them to the wolves.

        Now you have a guy who played in front of 2,000 people last year, is about to start a game in front of 70 to 80,000 people. Nerves will be kicking his ass. But like I say we will never know how this will play. But I dont expect a freshman to come in and uphold what Sanchez , Booty, Palmer, and Lienert done in his first season.
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        • ZBOIZ
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          #5
          Originally posted by stats13
          so you'd feel better if it was corp or mustain? maybe barkley IS that good

          Or maybe he dont have a good selection to choose from....
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          • MartinBlank
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            • 07-20-08
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            #6
            Originally posted by ZBOIZ
            Or maybe he dont have a good selection to choose from....
            You tell him Z.

            Ignore the fact that Barkely was the number one player on 3 different recruiting services last year....

            Ignore the fact that LSU's qb has exactly 2 starts.

            Only LSU is allowed to have an inexperienced QB--why you ask? Because you gave us all a YouTube video to watch...yeah yeah, that's it.

            Z you never fail to amaze me. You completely ignore the biggest variable here.

            USC has the best OL in college football---and that isn't me saying it---it is any service/magazine/analyst you can think of saying it. Anytime you have a line that good----and the stable of running backs USC has----Barkely won't be asked to win games.

            Trust me. I have your "USC will lose three games" prediction saved. It is going to be a fun year.
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            • ZBOIZ
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              #7
              Martin all I'm saying is you can't expect a true freshman to be what all those QB's were. USC will loose two to three games . Count it!!

              If you banking that a TRUE freshman who been under this offense for a couple of weeks can lead this team like Palmer, Sanchez, and Lienart than you have another thing coming.
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              • ZBOIZ
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                #8
                And Martin USC do have a very good offensive line but it do go farther than that. He will still have to make
                plays.

                That's bullshit if you guys think a freshman can lead this team underfeated or 1 loss.
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                • pags11
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                  • 08-18-05
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                  #9
                  Barkley is legit...if u get a chance to watch him in the UnderAmour All-American game I recommend doing so...
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                  • SoonerBS
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                    • 08-26-08
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pags11
                    Barkley is legit...if u get a chance to watch him in the UnderAmour All-American game I recommend doing so...
                    I agree. Carroll had every coach's dream -- 2 or 3 top 20 QBs in his program and the leisure to choose the best one for the right time. Don't read too much into Corps not being chosen here, guys. Barkley has always been a top contender for the job.
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                    • MartinBlank
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                      • 07-20-08
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                      #11
                      Exactly Sooner.

                      This is what Carroll had the luxury of choosing from.

                      Corp was rated the #2 QB coming out of high school.
                      Mustain was rated as the #1 QB in his class.
                      And Barkely was also ranked as the #1 QB coming out of his class.

                      Not exactly a bad problem to have.
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                      • ZBOIZ
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                        #12
                        I expect LSU to go 10-2 and I also expect USC to go 10-2 or 10-3. (This is for Martin who think I'm being homer in this situation)

                        Yes USC has great QB's but it's still a different game in college. I have yet to see him play 1 game. So all I'm saying is you cant expect USC to be the same type team as they were in the past.

                        I expect them to start the season off slow offensively, even though they have a great offensive line. I'm quiet sure Pete Carrol dont want to put the game in his hands. So they will play it more conservative I think at the beggining of the season.
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                        • MartinBlank
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                          I expect LSU to go 10-2 and I also expect USC to go 10-2 or 10-3. (This is for Martin who think I'm being homer in this situation)

                          Yes USC has great QB's but it's still a different game in college. I have yet to see him play 1 game. So all I'm saying is you cant expect USC to be the same type team as they were in the past.

                          I expect them to start the season off slow offensively, even though they have a great offensive line. I'm quiet sure Pete Carrol dont want to put the game in his hands. So they will play it more conservative I think at the beggining of the season.
                          Z.....you really don't think you are being a homer?

                          Explain this to me. Jefferson has not won a single SEC game yet...in fact, he has only started one SEC game----and you are excited about LSU's season.

                          Jefferson has completed less than 50% of his passes...and you have all the faith in the world that he will lead LSU to a 10-2 season.

                          Meanwhile---Barkely was the most sought after QB in the country last year----he enrolled at USC in January of last year----played very well in their spring game, and won the job this fall over 2 kids who LSU would have given their left nut to have on their team last year.

                          And you don't see the obvious contradiction?

                          How is it possible that you can look at the lack of experience Jefferson has and think LSU will be fine--and then look at USC's situation and think they are worse off?

                          It makes absolutely no sense.
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                          • MartinBlank
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                            #14
                            Oh, and Z.

                            I actually think LSU is going to be good this year.

                            I think they are going to crush Washington.
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                            • mmike032
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MartinBlank
                              Z.....you really don't think you are being a homer?

                              Explain this to me. Jefferson has not won a single SEC game yet...in fact, he has only started one SEC game----and you are excited about LSU's season.

                              Jefferson has completed less than 50% of his passes...and you have all the faith in the world that he will lead LSU to a 10-2 season.

                              Meanwhile---Barkely was the most sought after QB in the country last year----he enrolled at USC in January of last year----played very well in their spring game, and won the job this fall over 2 kids who LSU would have given their left nut to have on their team last year.

                              And you don't see the obvious contradiction?

                              How is it possible that you can look at the lack of experience Jefferson has and think LSU will be fine--and then look at USC's situation and think they are worse off?

                              It makes absolutely no sense.
                              sometimes you cant see the forest for the trees
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                              • ZBOIZ
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                                #16
                                Martin Jefferson did complete half of his passes but the kid was put in bad situation that made him look bad on stat sheets. He did not paractice with the 1's at all until th week of the Arkansas game. And he had them up by two touchdowns going into the half. But Les Miles got to conservative in the 2nd half and cost us the game. But look at him during the Bowl game were be had time to prepare and practice with the 1st teamer for the 2nd game . The kid got better by the game
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                                • ZBOIZ
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                                  #17
                                  Also I keep repeating this shit! I think LSU and USC will have the same type of season.

                                  USC 10-2. LSU 10-2

                                  but I won't be suprise if USC loose 3
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                                  • ZBOIZ
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                                    #18
                                    LSU probably wouldn't mind Barkley but we are fine with who we have.
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                                    • Ralphie1412
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                                      • 01-29-08
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                      Stat13,

                                      last year when Pete Carrol got pissed about Sanchez leaving school early I said that something was wrong with this picture. Marc Richt did'nt get pissed when Moreno and Stafford left early last year. So why would Pete Carrol ? Pete got mad for the simple fact that he did not have a reliable back up to come in the following year to lead his program. Every coach last option is to start a freshman QB (especially at a top tier program) and it's all coming together on why he wanted Sanchez to REALLY stay. He wanted Barkely to be under his system for atleast 1 year and then take over as the starter, but his plans were ruined when Sanchez decided to enter the draft.

                                      Think about it:

                                      Carson Palmer - Matt Lienart

                                      Matt Lienart - Josh Booty

                                      Josh Booty - Sanchez

                                      Sanchez - ??????

                                      (ALL THESE GUYS WERE UPPERCLASSMENS WHEN THEY TOOK OVER AS QB)
                                      This is how a top tier competitive program is ran! You have your QB'S sit in the system for a while before you throw them to the wolves.

                                      Now you have a guy who played in front of 2,000 people last year, is about to start a game in front of 70 to 80,000 people. Nerves will be kicking his ass. But like I say we will never know how this will play. But I dont expect a freshman to come in and uphold what Sanchez , Booty, Palmer, and Lienert done in his first season.
                                      Josh Booty? ........John David Booty?
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                                      Goat Milk
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                                      • ZBOIZ
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                                        • 06-22-08
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                                        Josh Booty? ........John David Booty?

                                        Yea you right. John David Booty

                                        I was thinking of his older brother Josh Booty who played for LSU.
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                                        • ZBOIZ
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MartinBlank
                                          Z.....you really don't think you are being a homer?

                                          Explain this to me. Jefferson has not won a single SEC game yet...in fact, he has only started one SEC game----and you are excited about LSU's season.

                                          Jefferson has completed less than 50% of his passes...and you have all the faith in the world that he will lead LSU to a 10-2 season.

                                          Meanwhile---Barkely was the most sought after QB in the country last year----he enrolled at USC in January of last year----played very well in their spring game, and won the job this fall over 2 kids who LSU would have given their left nut to have on their team last year.

                                          And you don't see the obvious contradiction?

                                          How is it possible that you can look at the lack of experience Jefferson has and think LSU will be fine--and then look at USC's situation and think they are worse off?

                                          It makes absolutely no sense.

                                          Yea Right

                                          Mustain ?? I rather not..

                                          Maybe Corp as backup but Mustain can stay at USC


                                          But I rather our #1 ranked recruiting class than all of those QB's
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                                          • PingPong
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                                            • 11-10-08
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                                            #22
                                            senior year stats: 23 TDS, 18 INTS, 2877 YDS, 54.7% COMP
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                                            • ZBOIZ
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PingPong
                                              senior year stats: 23 TDS, 18 INTS, 2877 YDS, 54.7% COMP

                                              who ??

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                                              • ZBOIZ
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by PingPong
                                                senior year stats: 23 TDS, 18 INTS, 2877 YDS, 54.7% COMP

                                                wow I just looked it up ..

                                                The kid threw 18 a county high 18 interceptions......


                                                wow...

                                                and thats not against college athletes. Just wait till the poor kid step foot at Ohio St.
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                                                • ZBOIZ
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                                                  #25
                                                  THIS IS A ARTICLE FROM OCVARSITY.COM

                                                  He threw a county-high 18 interceptions, and his Mater Dei team got beat in the second round of the playoffs to finish 8-4.
                                                  That is not the type of senior year expected of Barkley, the Gatorade national player of the year as a junior in 2007.
                                                  From this view, Barkley tried to make big plays that weren't there at times, his fastball-of-a-pass sometimes had too much heat for high school receivers to catch (a problem he won't have at USC), and the offensive line at Mater Dei was not a team strength. Then there was the extraordinary pressure from all of the preseason accolades and expectations.
                                                  Peel it all away and this is what you have – Matt Barkley is a high school kid.
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                                                  • ZBOIZ
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                                                    #26
                                                    THIS IS THE RUSSELL SHEPARD (QB LSU)
                                                    HIGH SCHOOL
                                                    Widely considered the top dual-threat quarterback in the country for the Class of 2009 ... Earned Parade All-America honors as well as being a second-team All-USA selection by the USA Today ... Lived up to his billing during a prolific senior season in which he led Cypress Ridge High School to the third round of the Texas Class 5A Division II State Playoffs ... Racked up 538 yards of total offense and six touchdowns in the Rams’ third-round loss to Copperas Cove ... Tallied more than 1,000 yards of offense with a total of 14 touchdowns in three playoff games ... Team finished with a 9-3 record in 2008 ... Accounted for nearly 4,000 total yards and 48 touchdowns on the year ... Completed 55 percent of his passes for 1,843 yards and 20 touchdowns with just four interceptions ... Also carried the ball 257 times for 1,946 yards and 28 touchdowns ... Finished his senior season ranked as the No. 1 high school player in the state of Texas by Rivals.com and SuperPrep ... Honored by the Associated Press as a first-team Class 5A all-state performer and the Texas Class 5A Offensive Player of the Year in 2008 ... Was also named the Touchdown Club of Houston’s Offensive Player of the Year following his senior season ... One of 32 finalists for the national Joe Montana Quarterback of the Year award ... Earned the right to compete in the Under Armour High School All-America Game on Jan. 4 ... While starting at quarterback for the Black Team, he accounted for two touchdowns in the game, including a 92-yard touchdown pass in the first half ... Also showed off his elusiveness by scoring on a 15-yard quarterback draw early in the second half while finishing the game with 39 yards rushing on four carries ... Finished his high school career with more than 8,000 yards of total offense and 98 total touchdowns to his credit ... Rushed for 66 touchdowns while passing for 32 touchdowns during his high school career ... Honored by Cypress Ridge High School by having his jersey No. 10 retired less than one month after his final game ... Coached at Cypress Ridge by Gary Thiebaud.
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                                                    • ZBOIZ
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                                                      #27
                                                      OH YEA HERE'S MORE...

                                                      As a senior, the 6-1, 179-pound Shepard rushed for 1,946 yards and 28 touchdowns and threw for 1,843 yards and 20 touchdowns. Shepard also led Cy-Ridge to a 17-5A district championship in 2007. Alongside Matt Barkley, Shepard is considered the top quarterback of the high school class of 2009 by both Rivals.com[2] and Scout.com.[3]
                                                      He has been compared to Florida wide receiver Percy Harvin by Scouts, Inc. reporter.[4]
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                                                      • ZBOIZ
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                                                        #28
                                                        AND TO FINALIZE HERE'S THE VIDEO

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                                                        • ZBOIZ
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                                                          #29
                                                          And if you question his passing skills look at 2:20 of the video on up
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                                                          • PingPong
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                                                            • 11-10-08
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                                                            #30
                                                            how did they rank barkley ahead of garrett gilbert??

                                                            Gilbert's senior stats: 55 TDS, 6 INTS, 4851 YDS, 69.3% COMP. also ran for 767 yards and 23 TDS

                                                            looks like USC recruits are getting the Notre Dame treatment. Barkley's a 3 or 4 star QB, until he committed to USC, then he became a bluechip superstar!
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                                                            • ZBOIZ
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                                                              #31
                                                              Pingpong that's how some of these players stocks go up . They stocks go up by the schools that's recruiting them.
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                                                              • El Degeneroso
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                                                                • 12-22-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                That Shepard video is sweet. What's the word on his chances of seeing meaningful playing time this year? Maybe in certain situations a la Tebow as a freshman? Looks like a talent you gotta put out on the field IMHO.
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                                                                • ZBOIZ
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by El Degeneroso
                                                                  That Shepard video is sweet. What's the word on his chances of seeing meaningful playing time this year? Maybe in certain situations a la Tebow as a freshman? Looks like a talent you gotta put out on the field IMHO.

                                                                  Well he will play a lot this year. He will play at QB, and WR. LSU will use him in a lot of different formations. So it will be very exciting to see him against Washington.

                                                                  I hear they even have packages with him and Jefferson (LSU QB) in th backfield together.
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                                                                  • PingPong
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    aren't they converting him to WR?
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                                                                    • ZBOIZ
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by PingPong
                                                                      aren't they converting him to WR?

                                                                      No he will play QB, and WR.


                                                                      You guys have to remember LSU offensive coordinator is the guy who recruited Dennis Dixon to Oregon, so he will love this guy in the shotgun
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