LSU -14 vs Washington ?!?

MartinBlank · 08-13-09, 05:56 PM

Z, have you ever been able to see any weaknesses in your team? EVER.

ZBOIZ · 08-13-09, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by MartinBlank

Z, have you ever been able to see any weaknesses in your team? EVER.

I think the weakness in our team will be DLine. Thats one position that I say has tons of potential but we have yet to see them . They been under the lights of Glen Dorsey, and Tyson Jackson.

Mac4Lyfe · 08-13-09, 07:48 PM

Zboiz - This is a trap waiting to happen. LSU's offense is still unproven while Washington's offense is going to be much improved. I think this will be a low scoring game which will be very close to the -14 line.

I also wouldn't use Florida's 4 loss season in 07 for comparison. UF lost a bunch of guys on defense due to injury similar to UGA last year. The defense couldn't stop anyone because they had to go to the waterboy on the defensive line. They got zero pressure on the QB and couldn't stop the run. Tebow was still incredible along with the offense. He didn't lose those 4 games, the defense lost those games but they were close losses. LSU got abused last year in several games and not because of injuries.

I also think many people are giving JJ too much love based on 1 game. He is still very unproven and will make mistakes. Jake Locker is legit and will give the defense fits. This line is just about right...

soonerfan · 08-13-09, 08:03 PM

LSU's 3rd string are better atheletes than Washington's starters. LSU will run the ball on them all day. Plus their speed on defense will be to much for Washington to handle.

TPowell · 08-13-09, 08:06 PM

run the ball? That equates to a 14+ point win???

Mac4Lyfe · 08-13-09, 08:13 PM

The line is 16.5 at BetJam...

ZBOIZ · 08-13-09, 08:14 PM

Mac4lyfe the same with LSU. We lost our starting QB who was going to be a future all American that many predicted in Ryan Perilloux. We also lost a lot on defense. Glen Dorsey, Craig Steltz, Ali Highsmith, and Chevis Jackson all who is in the pro's right now. So like I said if Florida can get away with it than why can't we ??

ZBOIZ · 08-13-09, 08:16 PM

Also we averaged over 28 points a game last year and that was with sub par play at the qb position. We will put over 38 on Washington. We have way to much talent and speed

Shortstop · 08-13-09, 08:17 PM

I like Washington plus the points. I see it at 16 as I type.

TPowell · 08-13-09, 08:18 PM

16??? ** please

TPowell · 08-13-09, 08:18 PM

UW I mean

Shortstop · 08-13-09, 08:20 PM

You could just say Huskies I guess.

soonerfan · 08-13-09, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

run the ball? That equates to a 14+ point win???

I think it does considering how weak Washington's defense is. Plus I don't see them putting up alot of points. I think LSU wins in a rout.

TPowell · 08-13-09, 08:22 PM

guy, first year coach will have that team ready at home. This will be a shocker IMO

DrStale · 08-13-09, 08:23 PM

I know its hard but you have to stop feeding Z. Just take Washington and the points and wait till his next pick. Of course he's biased, Z is to handicapping what Nickelback is to music.

TPowell · 08-13-09, 08:23 PM

Mac's post sums up my opinion

Mac4Lyfe · 08-13-09, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

Mac4lyfe the same with LSU. We lost our starting QB who was going to be a future all American that many predicted in Ryan Perilloux. We also lost a lot on defense. Glen Dorsey, Craig Steltz, Ali Highsmith, and Chevis Jackson all who is in the pro's right now. So like I said if Florida can get away with it than why can't we ??

UF lost like 17 guys to injury in addition to guys who graduated, left early for the pro's. LSU didn't have that many injuries, just normal attrition. Of course losing Perilloux hurt your season but there are still questions (for me at least) in the Dline and QB. Those questions will be answered fairly quickly. I think you guys should cover but I wouldn't be surprised if its a low scoring affair. I would feel safer taking LSU 2nd half as you guys usually are a better 2nd half team.

TPowell · 08-13-09, 08:27 PM

Washington 1st Half may be the best play. It should be around +10

ZBOIZ · 08-13-09, 08:33 PM

Opinions Opinions but you guys will believe what you feel and thats understanding.

Just look at the G.Tech and LSU game in the Chick Filet Bowl and just look at how LSU speed dominated the option attack.

It was not ever close. But you guys will see

pdx107 · 08-13-09, 08:34 PM

Washington is terrible..... terrible I tell you

Mac4Lyfe · 08-13-09, 08:38 PM

Also don't forget that LSU was 5-5 the last 10 games of the season and 1-2 the last 3 games. You got killed against UF, UGA and Ole Miss and really should have lost to Troy, USC and Auburn. An 8-5 season could have very well been 5-8. The team will be better but I think people are giving LSU much more respect then say UGA who are in a better position IMO.

Washington also had a lazy, suck ass coach in Ty. Sarkisian will do a much better job and Locker is a proven QB. This kid can throw AND run the ball plus he's an incredible athlete. Washington should have beaten a good BYU team if the stupid refs didn't give him an unsportsmanlike penalty when he threw the ball in the air. That play really burst Washington's bubble.

LSU is much more talented but the offense is still a huge question mark in my mind. Combine that with a good Locker and an unproven LSU DLine and this could spell trouble. 16.5 points is too much for me right now.

Mac4Lyfe · 08-13-09, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Washington 1st Half may be the best play. It should be around +10

I agree... This may be a good lean but Washington really is pretty pathetic. I might play it but not for much. I think LSU 2nd half may be the best bet.

soonerfan · 08-13-09, 08:41 PM

I saw Washington play in person last year when OU drilled them. They looked like a high school team compared to OU. It's just hard for me to get that image out of my head.

Mac4Lyfe · 08-13-09, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

Opinions Opinions but you guys will believe what you feel and thats understanding.

Just look at the G.Tech and LSU game in the Chick Filet Bowl and just look at how LSU speed dominated the option attack.

It was not ever close. But you guys will see

GT was a very one dimensional team. I hammered LSU in that game because I knew their win against UGA was an anomaly. LSU is very disciplined against the run which hurt GT as well.

But, I would not let 1 game influence my decision, especially since LSU played pretty bad up to that point. The Troy game showed me that LSU has some serious holes and I'm not sure the Riverboat gambler can fix them in time.

Mac4Lyfe · 08-13-09, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by soonerfan

I saw Washington play in person last year when OU drilled them. They looked like a high school team compared to OU. It's just hard for me to get that image out of my head.

I agree... They were the worst team in FBS for sure, with Washington State close behind. BUT I think Ty Will lost his will after the heartbreaking loss to BYU. That game pretty much made him and the team quit. BYU was a better team than LSU last year so comparing how a team looked against another team doesn't often tell the story.

Sarkisian may get those guys to believe early on and if they do who knows. Locker has the ability to win games on his own and that for me makes me unsure about the results.

TPowell · 08-13-09, 08:50 PM

exactly but 16.5 is too much for LSU to give against any reasonable team on the road

ZBOIZ · 08-13-09, 09:01 PM

There's nothing much I can say but you will make a huge mistake betting Washington. There is no way Washington keep this close...

Mac4Lyfe · 08-13-09, 09:16 PM

We will have to bump this in a few weeks. I won't be betting the farm either way.

TPowell · 08-13-09, 09:16 PM

exactly

ImmaBammer12 · 08-13-09, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

By the way LSU will pound the University of Washington. Don't even put Tennessee and LSU in the same sentence. LSU is a way more powerful program than Tennessee. You have the deepest runningback core in the nation, one of the best recievers in the nation in Brandon Lafell, also one of the top Offense lines in the nation and the number #1 recruiting class in the nation and you say only a 11 point game ??? Look at LSU out of conferece BCS victories in the past recent years. Washington will get killed bottom line. You seen what Oklahoma did them last year. Nothing will change!!

LSU 42 Washington 6

*** WASHINGTON PROGRAM IS NOT READY TO COMPETE WITH THE ELITE BCS TEAM JUST YET. MAYBE IN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS BUT BY NO CHANCE IN HELL ARE THEY READY ***

Z, that's was the whole point of my post. I know exactly how potent LSU is but was just baffled at the low number of points against such a lesser opponent. Yet the blow Tennessee up against Western Kentucky like Kiffin has the next coming of the Florida Gators. I was expecting numbers like the Texas game. I think they are up to -40 now.

Thanks for all the input on the game though.

TPowell · 08-14-09, 12:03 AM

lol anybody else on Western Kentucky?

ZBOIZ · 08-14-09, 12:04 AM

Bammer12 I'm pounding LSU minus the points . This Washington team sucks. And they are learning a whole new offense and defensive scheme. This team is no threat to LSU at all.

42-6 LSU

Mac4Lyfe · 08-14-09, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by soonerfan

I saw Washington play in person last year when OU drilled them. They looked like a high school team compared to OU. It's just hard for me to get that image out of my head.

Originally posted by TPowell

lol anybody else on Western Kentucky?

Western Kentucky is flat out horrible. As much as I dislike Lame Kitten, I don't see anyway that WKU can compete. 30 pts is a lot of points and UT's offense may struggle but I don't think it's worth the risk because Lame has put together a good coaching staff. I may put a little on WKU 1st half just for fun but UT should win by 30+ honestly. The talent level in this game isn't even close. Not 1 guy on WKU would be on scholarship at UT.

ImmaBammer12 · 08-14-09, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

Bammer12 I'm pounding LSU minus the points . This Washington team sucks. And they are learning a whole new offense and defensive scheme. This team is no threat to LSU at all.

42-6 LSU

Z, I'm a SEC homer and I definitely agree that LSU makes Washington look bad at home. I will also make this one observation that I didn't realize till I read the responses here. SEC teams never play as well when they travel West. I thought LSU was playing in Tiger Stadium. At least none from the state of Alabama. Bama sucked when we went to play UCLA a few years ago and Auburn did when they went to play USC. Something about that flight and the lag. I'll still take them LSU even if it goes to 21.

Bealz · 08-14-09, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by ImmaBammer12

Z, I'm a SEC homer and I definitely agree that LSU makes Washington look bad at home. I will also make this one observation that I didn't realize till I read the responses here. SEC teams never play as well when they travel West. I thought LSU was playing in Tiger Stadium. At least none from the state of Alabama. Bama sucked when we went to play UCLA a few years ago and Auburn did when they went to play USC. Something about that flight and the lag. I'll still take them LSU even if it goes to 21.

Add Tenn. at UCLA to that list.
Cal. @ Md. last year.

Seems I heard that somewhere.
It's not just west, but it seems less pronounced going east.
And it seems to not be as pronounced in the last half of a season.